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Date: fr 29 okt 1999 24:01 GMT+00:00
1. It's all over: United out of Cup
2. Ferguson wanted United to defend FA Cup
3. United / fixtures congestion Personal article from JB
4. Manchester Senior cup - Result
5. Including last nghts game Uniteds Yellow Cards in the CL are:
6. MCCLAIR SHOCKER? - Daily Mirror
7. Re: Ask the StatMan
8. More player pics easily available
9. UNITED'S BRAZIL DATES
MANCHESTER UNITED DAILY NEWS Friday 29th Oct 1999:
REDS reserves won on penalties tonight against
Man City in Man Senior Cup. Final score was 1-1
UNITED won 5-4 on penaties.
btw check this out! ........
** Croatia Zagreb sacks Ardiles
ZAGREB, Croatia (October 28, 1999 4:53 p.m. EDT -
Croatia Zagreb coach Osvaldo Ardiles was sacked and replaced on
Thursday by deputy Marijan Vlak following the club's elimination from the
European Champions League.
Club president Zlatko Canjuga announced the news of the axing of the
former Newcastle and Tottenham manager.
"Ardiles has been sacked because of our inability to qualify through to the
second phase of the European Champions League," Canjuga said.
Vlak, who was the number two to Ardiles since last July, had been the
head coach at Zagreb from July 1997 to March 1998.
ECL Group D ** Manchester United **
Olympique de Marseille * NK Croatia Zagreb * SK Sturm Graz
Manchester United FC Champions League Squad List
1 Mark John Bosnich 2 Gary Alexander Neville 3 Dennis Joseph Irwin
4 David May 6 Jakob Stam 7 David Robert J Beckham
8 Nicholas Butt 9 Andrew Alex. Cole 10 Edward Sheringham
11 Ryan Joseph Giggs 12 Philip Neville 14 Johan Jordi Cruyff
15 Lars Jesper Blomqvist 16 Roy Keane 17 Raimond RJH Van der Gouw
18 Paul Scholes 19 Dwight Yorke 20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 Henning Berg 23 Michael Jamie Clegg 25 Josť Quinton Fortune
26 Massimo Taibi 31 Nicholas James Culkin 33 Mark Antony Wilson
34 Jonathan Greening
Group D P W D L F A PTS
Manchester United FC 5 3 1 1 7 3 10
Olympique de Marseille 5 3 0 2 8 6 9
SK Sturm Graz 5 2 0 3 4 10 6
NK Croatia Zagreb 5 1 1 3 5 5 4
Real Audio - Last weeks Daily News Sound Archive:
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99/2000 fixtures/match reports are at
Mark Bosnich's Personal Details
MANCHESTER UNITED STATS v ALL teams on the Web
BSKYB Takeover news/pics at http://www.red11.org/mufc/bskyb.htm
Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!
*** FIXTURES ON 30/10/99 ***
Arsenal v Newcastle United
Derby County v Chelsea
Leeds United v West Ham United
Leicester City v Sheffield Wednesday
Manchester United v Aston Villa
Middlesbrough v Everton
Wimbledon v Southampton
*** FIXTURES ON 31/10/99 ***
Coventry City v Watford
Sunderland v Tottenham Hotspur
*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 27/10/99 ***
Liverpool 1-0 West Ham United 44,012
*** CONDENSED LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 27/10/99 ***
Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Leeds United 12 8 2 2 25 16 9 26
2 Arsenal 12 8 1 3 20 12 8 25
3 Sunderland 12 7 3 2 21 10 11 24
4 Manchester United 12 7 3 2 28 19 9 24
5 Tottenham Hotspur 11 6 2 3 20 15 5 20
6 Leicester City 12 6 2 4 20 17 3 20
7 Chelsea 10 6 1 3 17 7 10 19
8 Everton 12 5 3 4 21 18 3 18
9 Liverpool 12 5 3 4 13 11 2 18
10 Aston Villa 12 5 3 4 13 12 1 18
11 Middlesbrough 12 6 0 6 16 16 0 18
12 West Ham United 11 5 2 4 12 10 2 17
13 Coventry City 12 3 4 5 16 15 1 13
14 Southampton 11 3 3 5 18 22 -4 12
15 Wimbledon 12 2 6 4 18 26 -8 12
16 Bradford City 11 3 2 6 9 17 -8 11
17 Newcastle United 12 3 1 8 23 27 -4 10
18 Watford 12 3 0 9 8 18 -10 9
19 Derby County 12 2 3 7 10 21 -11 9
20 Sheffield Wednesday 12 1 2 9 8 27 -19 5
30-OCT-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Aston Villa (FA Premier League, HOME)
02-NOV-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Sturm Graz (UEFA Champions League, HOME)
06-NOV-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Leicester C (FA Premier League, HOME)
20-NOV-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Derby C (FA Premier League, AWAY)
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED -
UNITED Stats v All teams:
ALL FIXTURES at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix992000.htm
First Team Fixtures 1999/2000
All dates/times subject to change
Dates of possible cup ties also shown
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
15/07/99 Melbourne Australia pre-season W 2-0 - 60,000
18/07/99 Sydney Australia pre-season W 1-0 - 78,000
21/07/99 Shanghai Shenhua pre-season W 2-0 - 80,000
24/07/99 Hong Kong South China pre-season W 2-0 - 40,000
1/08/99 Arsenal Wembley Charity Shield L 1-2 - 70,185
3/08/99 Omagh Town Omagh Bomb Fund W 9-0 - 7,000
4/08/99 Wigan Athletic friendly W 2-0 - 15,000
08/08/99 Everton Away PL D 1-1 10 39,141
11/08/99 Sheffield Wednesday Home PL W 4-0 3 54,941
14/08/99 Leeds United Home PL W 2-0 1 55,187
22/08/99 Arsenal Away PL W 2-1 1 38,147
25/08/99 Coventry City Away PL W 2-1 1 22,024
27/08/99 Monaco - Lazio ESC L 0-1 - 15,223
30/08/99 Newcastle United Home W 5-1 1 55,190
11/09/99 Liverpool Away W 3-2 1 44,929
14/09/99 Croatia Zagreb Home EC D 0-0 - 53,250
18/09/99 Wimbledon Home D 1-1 1 55,189
22/09/99 Sturm Graz Away EC W 3-0 - 16,480
25/09/99 Southampton Home D 3-3 1 55,249
29/09/99 Marseille Home EC W 2-1 - 54,276
3/10/99 Chelsea Away PL L 0-5 2 34,909
11/10/99 Sir Alex Testimonial Home F L 2-4 LEGENDS 54,842
13/10/99 Aston Villa Away WC3 L 0-3 - 33,815
16/10/99 Watford Home PL W 4-1 2 55,188
19/10/99 Marseille Away EC L 0-1 - 57,745
23/10/99 Tottenham Hotspur Away L 1-3 3 36,072
27/10/99 Croatia Zagreb Away EC 19.45
30/10/99 Aston Villa home PL 15.00
2/11/99 Sturm Graz Home EC 19.45
6/11/99 Leicester City Home PL 15.00
20/11/99 Derby County Away PL 15.00
24/11/99 ? EC
27/11/99 Sheffield Wednesday Away PL 15.00
30/11/99 Tokyo Palmeiras WCC 20.00
4/12/99 Everton Home PL 15.00
8/12/99 ? EC
18/12/99 West Ham United Away PL 15.00
26/12/99 Bradford City Home PL 15.00
28/12/99 Sunderland Away PL 20.00 "live on sky"
3/01/2000 Middlesborough Home PL 20.00
JAN 05-14 Brazil WTC [3-4 games]
06/01/2000 Necaxa (Mexico) Neut WTC 16.00
08/01/2000 Vasco da Gama (Brazil) Away WTC 16.00
11/01/2000 South Melbourne (Australia) N WTC 16.00
22/01/2000 Arsenal Home PL 15.00
5/02/2000 Coventry City Home PL 15.00
12/02/2000 Newcastle United Away PL 15.00
26/02/2000 Wimbledon Away PL 15.00
1/03/2000 ? EC
4/03/2000 Liverpool Home PL 15.00
8/03/2000 ? EC
11/03/2000 Derby County Home PL 15.00
15/03/2000 ? EC
18/03/2000 Leicester City Away PL 15.00
22/03/2000 ? EC
25/03/2000 Bradford City Away PL 15.00
1/04/2000 West Ham United Home PL 15.00
5/04/2000 ? EC qf i
8/04/2000 Middlesborough Away PL 15.00
15/04/2000 Sunderland Home PL 15.00
19/04/2000 ? EC qf ii
22/04/2000 Southampton Away PL 15.00
24/04/2000 Chelsea Home PL 15.00
29/04/2000 West Ham United Away PL 15.00
3/05/2000 ? EC sf i
6/05/2000 Tottenham Hotspur Home PL 15.00
10/05/2000 ? EC sf ii
14/05/2000 Aston Villa Away PL 15.00
24/05/2000 ? EC Final
It's all over: United out of Cup
Friday October 29, 1999
Manchester United are formally to tell the Football Association today that
they will not take part in the FA Cup.
United had been given until this weekend to make a decision about the
tournament but club secretary Ken Merrett yesterday said the club had
decided not to defend the FA Cup, which they won last year.
United say they have been pressurised by the government and organisers of
England's bid to host the 2006 World Cup to take part in the first Fifa
World Club Championship in Brazil next January. That made it impossible to
meet FA Cup fixture obligations.
Today's formal announce ment to withdraw follows a vociferous campaign and
a last- minute attempt by the United director and former player Sir Bobby
Charlton to broker an agreement.
Sir Bobby said: "I have tried to give it one more go but it's impossible to
come up with a solution."
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Ferguson wanted United to defend FA Cup
England's bid to stage World Cup and cash at stake in Brazil tournament put
paid to attempts to keep Reds in 127-year-old contest.
Friday October 29, 1999
For Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson it was an insult. The sport
minister, Kate Hoey, had criticised the club for insulting its fans by
refusing to participate in the FA Cup, and Ferguson wanted to set the
He wanted to defend the cup, which his beloved Reds had won a year earlier;
his players wanted to play in the world's oldest cup competition; and, more
importantly, the decision to withdraw, first announced in June, was not his.
Ferguson picked up his mobile phone, punched in a number and was straight
through to Tony Blair, who was at a conference on the bombing of Kosovo.
"Blair was not too pleased, but neither was Ferguson," said a source.
The fact that Ferguson was able to call the prime minister on his mobile
phone shows the importance attached to United's participation in the FA Cup
and the implications of the decision to withdraw.
Over the past few weeks attempts to negotiate an agreement that would allow
the club to take part in the Cup and in next year's inaugural World Club
Championship have involved Mr Blair, Ms Hoey, the culture and sport
secretary Chris Smith, and representatives of players and football
The Guardian has learned that the Premier League offered to extend the
football season by up to 10 days to allow United to participate in the Cup,
but this was rejected by the Football Association and the club's directors.
A source said the FA "didn't want an extension because of the European
Championships next summer and because they felt that it would be unfair to
A follow-up offer to extend the season for all English clubs in European
competitions was similarly rejected.
"It was a genuine offer and a genuine way of getting around the problem,"
said the source. "It was controversial in its implications for other clubs,
and both the FA and United moved pretty quickly to reject it."
When United first announced their decision to withdraw from the Cup in
June, the world of football was left reeling by the snub to tradition. For
the first time in the cup's 127-year history the holders had declared that
they would not be defending the trophy.
United claimed that they had been pressured, by the government and
organisers of England's bid to secure the 2006 World Cup, to take part in
next January's World Club Championship in Brazil.
That tournament, with eight of the world's leading teams competing, is
being organised by Fifa, world football's governing body. Snubbing it could
affect England's chances of staging the 2006 World Cup, organisers of
England's bid claimed.
United's directors claimed that not only were they doing a favour to
England's bid by travelling to Brazil but, given United's involvement in
other competitions, something had to give and that would have to be the FA
What has emerged is that Ferguson and his players are opposed to
withdrawing from the Cup and have voiced their concerns to their club
chairman, Martin Edwards, on several occasions.
Leading players such as captain Roy Keane have expressed their opposition
to the withdrawal to the Professional Footballers Association, which has
intervened on their behalf.
However, while Manchester United FC want to defend the world's most
prestigious cup Manchester United plc are trying to cash in on the
opportunity to play in a global tournament in Brazil.
Football finance analyst Simon Banks said: "United stand to make millions
of pounds through the global exposure they will receive by participating in
Brazil, much more than can be made in the FA Cup. It's a great opportunity
for the club to spread the brand name. United are opening club shops around
From the moment United announced their FA Cup decision, attempts have been
made to broker an agreement.
Ferguson was in favour of granting United a bye from the fourth round,
which coincides with the competition in Brazil. This was opposed by
chairmen of other Premier League clubs, although Real Madrid, the other
European side in the Brazil tournament, have been granted a bye from their
domestic cup competition.
The FA held a meeting with the Independent Manchester United Supporters
Association, which opposes the withdrawal. Andy Walsh of Imusa said: "We
put forward a number of options, but it was quite obvious that the FA did
not genuinely want to find a solution. They do not want to do anything that
might damage England's 2006 chances."
Eventually, the FA presented United with this weekend's deadline for a
decision, which led to a last minute intervention by Sir Bobby Charlton,
former player and now a director at the club. It proved to be a case of too
little, too late.
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United / fixtures congestion Personal article from JB
Am I the ony United fan who thinks that all the talk of
soiling the integrity of the FA Cup is a crock of something smelly? The idea
that we should enter a reserve team appears even more of an insult to the
competition. In future years, the FA Cup will simply have to be organised
around the international competitions. I don't understand why it hasn't been
this year - it certainly isn't United's fault. If the FA wants United in the
Cup, then the FA must be flexible.
Personally, I think that the opportunity to be inaugural world club champions is
a bigger shot than watching another drab final against the toon army (I'll
ignore the fact that Giggs' goal against Arsenal in the semi was the high point
of the season for me, as I am sure that there will be similar moments in
But the real problem is that United should not have to chose between
competitions. It is no good blaming Martin Edwards for the inability of the
various football authorities to limit the number of games clubs are required to
play. The obvious solution would be for the number of clubs in the Premier
League to be cut to a maximum of sixteen (and there are not even sixteen worthy
teams) and for teams in international competitions to play only one domestic cup
competition (given that the top clubs don't take the Worthington Cup seriously
anyway). The expanded Champions League can fit in as a midweek competition as
it does now. All the games would be of higher quality as teams would be more
likely to field a fit, first choice line-up.
This reorganisation would leave time for a break (at least for those teams
involved) in the middle of the season to fit in the world club competition.
Clearly, this cannot be played in parallel with domestic or continental
competitions (however, a competition like the Worthington Cup could be played at
home over the same period). The current format for the world club competitions
already ensures that teams will be tired by the final and games should be spread
over a slightly longer period. The need for a mid-season break could be avoided
by playing the competition only every two years using the summers between the
World Cups and European Championships - this would also mean we did not have to
suffer pointless trips to China or Australia (just in case anyone is thinking of
suggesting a rest for the players over the summer!).
Maybe the games against foreign clubs do not bring the same passion in the
terraces as games against domestic rivals. However, great teams are judged not
by domestic success, which United have found relatively easy in the the 90s, but
against the best in Europe and the world.
The major complaint to be levelled against the new world club competition is
that it is being played in Brasil at the worst time of year as far as climate is
concerned. If the two Brasilian teams do not make it to the final, with the
odds so stacked in their favour, it will be a surprise. I do not understand how
any international competition can be arranged to coincide with extremes of
temperature and humidity which make the competition unfair. The concerns of
football should come before concerns of politics or money.
Naturally, I wish United every success in the competition. I suspect that
winning it will be their only chance of silverware this year as they will be
physically wrecked by the time they return. It is not merely the change in
climate which will drain United - any viewer of Brasilian football will tell you
that the physically uncompromising style of play we are likely to encounter
(with possibly two out of four games against Brasilian sides) will ensure
injuries in addition to lack of strength and stamina. Players such as Beckham
will be kicked off the park before they have a chance to shine.
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Manchester Senior cup - Result
Manchester Senior Cup Sean Wright Philips scored 1st in the 2nd half
1-0 to CITY! past Taibi!
2nd half 69 mins
Mark Wilson good finish close-in
UNITED 1-1 CITY Full time
Man City 4 v 5 UNITED
1-0 top corner
Gary Neville 1-1 bottom right very cool
2-1 Sean Wright Philips good finish Taibi wrong way
Jordi Cruyff 2-2 bottom right keeper wrong way
2-2 TAIBI SAVES!!! delighted
Greening 3-2 Bottom right - cool
3-3 just in - Taibi gets hand to it, unlucky
Mark Wison top left VERY confident 4-3
last pen Capt David May 5-4 UNITED WIN!!!!!
5 out of five pens cool :)))
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Including last nghts game Uniteds Yellow Cards in the CL are:
Croatia Zagreb (h) None
Sturm Graz (a) Beckham
Marseille (h) P Neville
Marseille (a) Scholes Yorke Beckham
Croatia Zagreb (a) P Neville Scholes Beckham
Beckham/Scholes are banned for next game having collected 3 Yellow Cards.
I don't what the trigger is for a further ban, possibly 2 or 3 more Yellows?
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MCCLAIR SHOCKER - Daily Mirror
BRIAN McClair was "hurt and confused" last night after it emerged he had
become the innocent victim of Sir Alex Ferguson's bitter feud with Brian
McClair, a loyal lieutenant of Ferguson's for 12 success-laden years at
Manchester United, is reeling after feeling the icy repercussions of
Mirror Sport can reveal that McClair, now working as Kidd's No 2 at
Blackburn, was snubbed for Ferguson's recent money-spinning testimonial.
Both sides have tried to keep the matter under wraps in the aftermath of
the extravaganza that earned Fergie pounds 1million.
But a close pal of McClair confirmed the ongoing row between Ferguson
and his former right-hand man Kidd had now extended to the ex-Scotland
"This has hit Brian extremely hard," revealed his pal. "He left Old
Trafford on excellent terms and always enjoyed a good working
relationship with Ferguson.
"His loyalty seems to have been thrown back in his face.
"Understandably, he is feeling hurt and confused."
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Re: Ask the StatMan
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Ask the StatMan who are the names of all of the managers since 1892
question: who are the names of all of the managers that managed Man Utd since 1892?
please hurry i need it for a report. thanx
1892-1903 United were run by Secretary AH Albut and then James West
1903-1912 Ernest Mangnall
1912-1913 Secretary TJ Wallworth
1913-1914 Secretary JJ Bentley
1914-1921 John Robson
1921-1926 John Chapman
1926-1927 Player/Manager Clarence Hilditch
1927-1931 Herbert Bamlett
1931-1932 Secretary Walter Crickmer
1932-1937 Scott Duncan
1937-1945 Secretary Walter Crickmer
1945-Feb 1958 Sir Matt Busby
Feb-Aug 1958 Jimmy Murphy
Aug 1958-1969 Sir Matt Busby
1969-1970 Wilf McGuinness
1970-1971 Sir Matt Busby
1971-1972 Frank O'Farrell
1972-1977 Tommy Docherty
1977-1981 Dave Sexton
1981-1986 Ron Atkinson
1986- Sir Alex Ferguson
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UNITED'S BRAZIL DATES
Manchester United today learned exactly when and where they will be playing
in next year's FIFA World Club Championships in Brazil.
FIFA, who announced squads of 23 players must be submitted 10 days before
the £15million competition starts, confirmed the dates and kick-off times
for the event which runs from January 5 to 14 January as follows:
Group A Jan 5 - Sao Paulo 6.45pm (local time): Real Madrid v Al-Nassr Sao
Paulo 9.15pm: Corinthians v CAF representative Jan 7 - Sao Paulo 6.45pm:
Real Madrid v Corinthians Sao Paulo 9.15pm: CAF representative v Al-Nassr
Jan 10 - Sao Paulo 6.45pm: Real Madrid v CAF representative Sao Paulo
9.15pm Al-Nassr vs Corinthians
Group B Jan 6 - Rio de Janeiro 6.15pm: Man Utd v Necaxa Rio de Janeiro
8.45pm: Vasco da Gama v South Melbourne Jan 8 - Rio de Janeiro 6.15pm: Man
Utd v Vasco da Gama Rio de Janeiro 8.45pm: South Melbourne v Necaxa Jan 11
- Rio de Janeiro 6.15pm: Man Utd v South Melbourne Rio de Janeiro 8.45pm:
Necaxa v Vasco da Gama
Jan 14 - Third place play-off, 5pm: 2nd Group A v 2nd Group B Final, 8pm:
1st Group A v 1st Group B
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