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Date: 28th Okt 1999 23:18 GMT+00:00
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This Issue:
5. That FA Cup debacle - Personal Article sent to MUFC Daily News
7. Andy Cole Unlimited - PLEASE READ!
8. Scholes' star-struck fan



Barry Comment:
Tremendous win away from home and we qualified.
Becks & Scholes [intentional] bookings towards the end of the game means that
both serve their suspensions in the unimportant Sturm game next Tues!
They will then have clean sheets for the next Champions League round.

ECL Group D  ** Manchester United **
Olympique de Marseille * NK Croatia Zagreb * SK Sturm Graz

Manchester United FC Champions League Squad List
 1 Mark John Bosnich      2 Gary Alexander Neville 3 Dennis Joseph Irwin
 4 David May              6 Jakob Stam             7 David Robert J Beckham
 8 Nicholas Butt          9 Andrew Alex. Cole      10 Edward Sheringham
11 Ryan Joseph Giggs     12 Philip Neville         14 Johan Jordi Cruyff
15 Lars Jesper Blomqvist 16 Roy Keane           17 Raimond RJH Van der Gouw
18 Paul Scholes          19 Dwight Yorke           20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 Henning Berg          23 Michael Jamie Clegg    25 José Quinton Fortune
26 Massimo Taibi         31 Nicholas James Culkin  33 Mark Antony Wilson
34 Jonathan Greening

Group D                P W D L F A  PTS
Manchester United FC   5 3 1 1 7 3  10 
Olympique de Marseille 5 3 0 2 8 6   9 
SK Sturm Graz          5 2 0 3 4 10  6 
NK Croatia Zagreb      5 1 1 3 5 5   4 

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  Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
 Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!

*** FIXTURES ON 27/10/99 ***
           Liverpool  v  West Ham United

*** FIXTURES ON 30/10/99 ***
             Arsenal  v  Newcastle United
        Derby County  v  Chelsea
        Leeds United  v  West Ham United
      Leicester City  v  Sheffield Wednesday
   Manchester United  v  Aston Villa
       Middlesbrough  v  Everton
           Wimbledon  v  Southampton

*** FIXTURES ON 31/10/99 ***
       Coventry City  v  Watford
          Sunderland  v  Tottenham Hotspur

    Newcastle United   2-0   Derby County          35,614

Pos Team                  P   W   D   L   F   A   GD  Pts
 1  Leeds United         12   8   2   2  25  16    9   26
 2  Arsenal              12   8   1   3  20  12    8   25
 3  Sunderland           12   7   3   2  21  10   11   24
 4  Manchester United    12   7   3   2  28  19    9   24
 5  Tottenham Hotspur    11   6   2   3  20  15    5   20
 6  Leicester City       12   6   2   4  20  17    3   20
 7  Chelsea              10   6   1   3  17   7   10   19
 8  Everton              12   5   3   4  21  18    3   18
 9  Aston Villa          12   5   3   4  13  12    1   18
10  Middlesbrough        12   6   0   6  16  16    0   18
11  West Ham United      10   5   2   3  12   9    3   17
12  Liverpool            11   4   3   4  12  11    1   15
13  Coventry City        12   3   4   5  16  15    1   13
14  Southampton          11   3   3   5  18  22   -4   12
15  Wimbledon            12   2   6   4  18  26   -8   12
16  Bradford City        11   3   2   6   9  17   -8   11
17  Newcastle United     12   3   1   8  23  27   -4   10
18  Watford              12   3   0   9   8  18  -10    9
19  Derby County         12   2   3   7  10  21  -11    9
20  Sheffield Wednesday  12   1   2   9   8  27  -19    5

30-OCT-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Aston Villa  (FA Premier League, HOME)
02-NOV-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Sturm Graz  (UEFA Champions League, HOME)
06-NOV-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Leicester C  (FA Premier League, HOME)
20-NOV-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Derby C  (FA Premier League, AWAY)


UNITED Stats v All teams:
ALL FIXTURES at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix992000.htm
First Team Fixtures 1999/2000
All dates/times subject to change
Dates of possible cup ties also shown

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/07/99    Melbourne Australia   pre-season  W  2-0     -    60,000
18/07/99    Sydney    Australia   pre-season  W  1-0     -    78,000
21/07/99    Shanghai  Shenhua     pre-season  W  2-0     -    80,000
24/07/99    Hong Kong South China pre-season  W  2-0     -    40,000

 1/08/99    Arsenal   Wembley Charity Shield  L  1-2     -    70,185
 3/08/99    Omagh Town Omagh Bomb Fund        W  9-0     -     7,000
 4/08/99    Wigan Athletic friendly           W  2-0     -    15,000 
08/08/99    Everton                  Away PL  D  1-1    10    39,141
11/08/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Home PL  W  4-0     3    54,941
14/08/99    Leeds United             Home PL  W  2-0     1    55,187
22/08/99    Arsenal                  Away PL  W  2-1     1    38,147
25/08/99    Coventry City            Away PL  W  2-1     1    22,024 
27/08/99    Monaco - Lazio               ESC  L  0-1     -    15,223
30/08/99    Newcastle United         Home     W  5-1     1    55,190
11/09/99    Liverpool                Away     W  3-2     1    44,929
14/09/99    Croatia Zagreb           Home EC  D  0-0     -    53,250
18/09/99    Wimbledon                Home     D  1-1     1    55,189
22/09/99    Sturm Graz               Away EC  W  3-0     -    16,480
25/09/99    Southampton              Home     D  3-3     1    55,249
29/09/99    Marseille                Home EC  W  2-1     -    54,276
 3/10/99    Chelsea                  Away PL  L  0-5     2    34,909
11/10/99    Sir Alex Testimonial     Home F   L  2-4  LEGENDS 54,842      
13/10/99    Aston Villa              Away WC3 L  0-3     -    33,815
16/10/99    Watford                  Home PL  W  4-1     2    55,188
19/10/99    Marseille                Away EC  L  0-1     -    57,745 
23/10/99    Tottenham Hotspur        Away     L  1-3     3    36,072

27/10/99    Croatia Zagreb           Away EC   19.45
30/10/99    Aston Villa              home PL   15.00
 2/11/99    Sturm Graz               Home EC   19.45 
 6/11/99    Leicester City           Home PL   15.00
20/11/99    Derby County             Away PL   15.00
24/11/99    ?     EC
27/11/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Away PL   15.00
30/11/99    Tokyo  Palmeiras         WCC       20.00
 4/12/99    Everton                  Home PL   15.00
 8/12/99    ?     EC
18/12/99    West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
26/12/99    Bradford City            Home PL   15.00
28/12/99    Sunderland               Away PL   20.00  "live on sky"
 3/01/2000  Middlesborough           Home PL   20.00
 JAN 05-14  Brazil WTC [3-4 games]
06/01/2000  Necaxa (Mexico)          Neut WTC  16.00
08/01/2000  Vasco da Gama (Brazil)   Away WTC  16.00
11/01/2000  South Melbourne (Australia) N WTC  16.00
22/01/2000  Arsenal                  Home PL   15.00
 5/02/2000  Coventry City            Home PL   15.00
12/02/2000  Newcastle United         Away PL   15.00
26/02/2000  Wimbledon                Away PL   15.00
 1/03/2000  ?   EC
 4/03/2000  Liverpool                Home PL   15.00
 8/03/2000  ?   EC
11/03/2000  Derby County             Home PL   15.00
15/03/2000  ?   EC
18/03/2000  Leicester City           Away PL   15.00
22/03/2000  ?   EC
25/03/2000  Bradford City            Away PL   15.00
 1/04/2000  West Ham United          Home PL   15.00
 5/04/2000  ?   EC qf i
 8/04/2000  Middlesborough           Away PL   15.00
15/04/2000  Sunderland               Home PL   15.00
19/04/2000  ?   EC qf ii
22/04/2000  Southampton              Away PL   15.00
24/04/2000  Chelsea                  Home PL   15.00
29/04/2000  West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
 3/05/2000  ?   EC sf i
 6/05/2000  Tottenham Hotspur        Home PL   15.00
10/05/2000  ?   EC sf ii
14/05/2000  Aston Villa              Away PL   15.00
24/05/2000  ?   EC Final



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AT LEAST GODS ARE SMILING ON SIR ALEX'S REDS - Croatia Zagreb 1-2 Man Utd If Sir Alex Ferguson really was being serious pre-match in Zagreb when he spoke of the world’s hatred of Manchester United, then at least he can rest assured the Gods are still smiling on his all-conquering men of last season. Because if ever United, in the middle of a serious glut of poor form, required a nice easy stroll on the continent, with three points secured in the bargain, then this potentially hazardous trip to the capital of Croatian football was the time and place. Hence, their grateful acceptance of three moments of luck which fell their way during the first half. Firstly, Paul Scholes clumsy challenge in his own area went in their favour with the referee waving play on. Yes we all know how dangerous he can be from the deadball scenario but the angle and distance from the left-hand side of the Croatia half made a breakthrough seem a tad ambitious. Until that is, the London-born, Manchester United-mad winger rifled a peach of curler past the edge of the Zagreb wall, flying into the far corner. When Zagreb skipper and influential sweeper Juric was forced off through injury shortly before the break, United knew this was their lucky night indeed. Juric had been by far the most accomplished within Ossie Ardiles’ team. Their good fortune was not about to end there either. Shortly after the resumption, skipper Roy Keane hammered an optimistic long-range drive firmly, but hardly with the lethal venom he often can. Yet a wicked deflection off a Croat defender left Zagreb’s second-choice keeper wrong-footed as it rolled into his left corner. Thereafter with Strum Graz winning against leaders Marseille it was just a matter of hanging onto the two-goal cushion. The bookings of Scholes and Beckham rule them out of the final group clash, against the Austrians next Wednesday, but in reality with the Reds already through, only improve the situation. Both crucial figures will be back with a clean slate for the serious business of stage two in their defence of the trophy won last year for the second time in the club's history. Not even a late Robert Prosinecki strike right at the death could dampen or harm the United mood. Getting through is all that matters right now – and they have done that. Croatia Zagreb: Butina, Tokic, Sedloski, Juric (Prosinecki 35), Mujcin, Rukavina, Mikic (Simic 55), Saric, Cvitanovic (Mumlek 69), Tomas, Sokota. Subs Not Used: Vasilj, Krznar, Pavlovic, Kozniku. Booked: Sokota. Goals: Prosinecki 90. Man Utd: Bosnich, Irwin, Stam, Berg, Neville, Beckham, Keane, Scholes (Greening 68), Giggs, Cole (Cruyff 78), Yorke (Solskjaer 59). Subs Not Used: Van Der Gouw, May, Clegg, Higginbottom. Booked: Neville, Scholes, Beckham. Goals: Beckham 32, Keane 49. Att: 38,000 Ref: D Jol (Holland)
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FERGIE: ZAGREB WIN SILENCED CRITICS By Paul Walker, PA Sport, Zagreb Sir Alex Ferguson claimed his European champions answered their critics the only way they know - by winning. The 2-1 success over Croatia Zagreb puts Fergie's side back on top of Group D and into the next stage of the Champions League. Ferguson side came into the game on the back of four defeats in five games - but they were back on song here. The United manager said: "It was a decent result. Not our best, but when you have lost some games, the only answer is to win, and they have done that. "Croatia are a difficult side on their own ground, but we handled this game OK. "I am pleased that everything does now not hang on our last match at home to Sturm Graz next week." Croatia's Argentinian boss Ossie Ardiles had few complaints and praised United's qualities. The former Tottenham playmaker said: "United were the better team. Last season they won the title with fine away form, and that is what we saw tonight." Ardiles was asked afterwards if he was going to resign, and he replied: "No, and that is a stupid question. Will they fire me tomorrow? Anything can happen here."
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MAN UTD RATINGS v CROATIA ZAGREB Mark Bosnich - Appeared dumbfounded by Robert Prosinecki's late goal but had had little to do throughout the game. 6. Denis Irwin - An industrious and solid performance but what else do you expect? 8. Jaap Stam - Rarely troubled by Zagreb's disappointing attack but what he needed to do, he did well. 8. Henning Berg - Followed Stam's example and never looked in trouble. 7. Phil Neville - Some good forays down the right flank, linking well with Beckham. 7. David Beckham - Excellent free-kick to open the scoring for United before settling into a comfortable display on the right, despite second-half booking. 7. Roy Keane - A little fortunate with the deflection for his early second half but another resolute performance from the Irishman. 9. Paul Scholes - Resilient display but second half booking before his substitution means he will miss Sturm Graz game. 7. Ryan Giggs - The occasional dangerous run brought a glimpse of his talent but overall an average game for the Welshman. 7. Dwight Yorke - An uneventful night for the lightning-quick forward despite Zagreb's suspect defence and eventually replaced by Solskjaer. 6. Andy Cole - Like his regular strike partner Yorke, Cole did not have the most productive of nights before being replaced by Cruyff. 6. Subs: Jordi Cruyff - Only on the field for 10 minutes after replacing Cole. 5. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - Linked well with Cole in the second period after coming on for Yorke. 6. Jonathan Greening - Some neat passing but not on the field long enough to make any major impression. 6.
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REDS HIT THE TARGET Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson admitted that Roy Keane's 49th-minute goal had been the killer blow to opponents Croatia Zagreb. United were already leading through a David Beckham strike direct from a free-kick but Keane's drive from 20 yards was deflected past the Zagreb goalkeeper to give the European Champions a two-goal cushion. Robert Prosinecki earned a 90th-minute consolation which disappointed Ferguson but he had no complaints at the result which puts United through to the second stage of the competition. ``We made a lot of mistakes but once we scored, I couldn't see them coming back. They scored at the end but I think it was all over by then,'' Ferguson said. ``It was a good time for Roy to score for us just after half-time. I think that killed them. ``I was disappointed to concede a goal at the end but, in all fairness, there was some good quality to their game. They defended well throughout the game.'' But Ferguson was unconcerned that both Beckham and Paul Scholes were cautioned and will now miss the final group game against Sturm Graz at Old Trafford. ``That didn't matter because we knew we had to win the game anyway. The win was our target anyway,'' Ferguson said.
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That FA Cup debacle - Personal Article sent to MUFC Daily News As if I'm not ranting over a dead issue and a foregone conclusion, but it seems in many ways the end of the world, the day that FA Cup holders Manchester United set in stone the decision to withdraw from the competition altogether. They and other teams like them have compromised the rigours of their demanding fixtures list this year as in years past by fielding a squad of reserves in such less esteemed tourneys as the Football League's Worthington Cup, and have no excuse for not following suit here by fielding the reserves in the fourth round of the FA Cup. The FA Cup as a vital complement to the domestic league has traditionally provided entertaining, competitive ties and there is no reason to assume that this is going to change in the near future, or ever. Failure to so much as make a valliant effort to defend the FA Cup means that MUFC plc (read the fine print) has breached the limits of sports propriety and is quite clearly damned to eternal hell, metaphorically speaking. Manchester United are the most daring and determined club in the world, and have never balked in the face of a great contest, as this would be at odds with their staunchly never-say-die character. As such, we take the initiative and always, regardless of the harsh conditions on or off the pitch, fight our darnedest to win. With our traditional emphasis on a solid youth foundation, we should not shy away from this opportunity to let the kids rise to the challenge and show the cynics in our own camp just what we are capable of achieving. At the same time and more to the point, a solution needs to be found to tackle the ever-increasing problem of fixture congestion. It is the international football structure that needs at some point to be scrutinized and reformed before it absorbs sufficient attention to the detriment of the domestic structure. What the club needs to work on, and this is by no means a small or short-term pet project, is firstly to campaign with UEFA for both a less crowded UEFA Champions League and UEFA Cup competition, as well as hold ambitious FIFA at bay, while Keeping the Existing Footballing Structure Intact. The Premier League and the FA Cup are ample instruments for the demonstration of domestically proven talent in England, as are the both the domestic league and major cup tournament in other European nations. Secondly, the club needs to formulate an approximately definitive standard according to which teams may qualify for European competition in the first place. Any discriminant viewer can see that the Mighty Reds do not need to go gallavanting around with the herd of television and commercial entities whose entirely irrational aim is the maximization of revenue alone. It would be appalling for the historically rich foundation and edifice of the domestic contests, which provide the necessary colour, spectacle and moments of sheer drama for the larger context of European or otherwise international contests, to be swiftly eroded in the unprincipled aim of 'expanding the brand.' Or as Pink Floyd would put it, 'How ken yoo hev eny pudding eef yoo don't eech'yer meeet?!' There is absolutely no sense in pursuing international glory at the expense of the domestic game. While the two tiers of competition are evidently not co-existing in a beneficial sort of mutual complementarity at the moment, this is the determining factor which decides whether the football that we loyal fans are taking great expenses to follow is in reality a reputable contest or, by sharp contrast, merely (largely) just another vapid instrument of corporatate enterprise. In closing, if Martin Edwards really wants to act on the long-term interest of all concerned with the club, he'd better ignore the temporary whims of the shareholders with whom he is so sympathetic and re-instate United in the FA Cup. Not only is the integrity of the Cup at stake, but the merit of Manchester United itself is seriously in question. Mr. Edwards, before the 11th hour expires, I should tell you that your boundless avarice is more than a little misguided. Far from inheriting universal popularity, United in its present manifestation is a world-wide turn-off among informed Reds and fans of English and European football alike. We may lack the financial and administrative resources to reverse your fatal decision, but be warned: we are not deceived, the Revolution will oust you from your easy seat, we will regain control and restore some trace of dignity to the Mighty Reds. Red to the bitter End - Fffremont
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Ask the StatMan - WHY ARE WE LOSING SO MUCH FOUR GAMES IN FIVE GAMES ============================================================================ Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 Time: 4:44 AM EST Submitted by: kabelo setsiba Email address: kabset@chatswana.com Ask the StatMan visitor_country: BOTSWANA visitor_age: 22 question: WHY ARE WE LOSING SO MUCH FOUR GAMES IN FIVE GAMES IS JUST TOO MUCH. IS IT THE INJURIES OR THE OPPONENT ARE JUST TOO GOOD FOR US. ============================================================================ Hello Kabelo. This is purely my opinion, we currently lack understanding in the defence, replacing Schmeichel was always going to be difficult. Also we have players who are carrying injury, the squad is also depleted by other injuries so the manager has less choice than he would like. The new signings need time to settle in and adapt to the demands of the Premiership. Plus, I feel we had a little bit of luck going our way last season, now we are seeing the other side. All Reds must remember that we don't have a divine right to win every game, and I am sure that results will improve as the very long season unfolds. Please be patient!
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Andy Cole Unlimited - PLEASE READ! To anyone in the world who is remotely interested in images of a certain goal scorer Andy Cole? Just go to url: http://www.red11.org/mufc/images/player/cole/small/andy_cole_images.htm Enjoy 9 x 8 = 72 FAST click on tin-pics The work of Bill at The Theatre Of Dreams Will never die, will never die, Will never die, will never die, We'll keep the red flag flying high, 'Coz Man United will never die. http://www.red11.org
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Scholes' star-struck fan Starstruck David Beckham fan swooned as she watched her hero in training yesterday - after being hit on the head by a wayward shot from Manchester United team-mate Paul Scholes. Ivona Dragicevic, nine, was poleaxed during the practice session before last night's Champions League clash away to Croatia Zagreb. She soon regained consciousness and was presented with Beckham's shirt and a hug from her hero.
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UNITED 9-2 FOR CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE Manchester United were eased in a touch from 5-1 to 9-2 for the Champions' League after qualifying for the knockout stages with their 2-1 victory over Croatia Zagreb. Before the action got under way on Wednesday, United knew that victory would guarantee them their place in the second phase of the competition. David Beckham delighted the travelling fans with another of his party tricks in the 33rd minute. His scintillating free-kick gave Croatian goalkeeper Tomislav Butina no chance. In the second half skipper Roy Keane's deflected shot put United 2-0 up. Even though Zagreb made it interesting in the dying seconds of the game with a Robert Prosinecki goal it proved to be a mere consolation. Sir Alex Ferguson's men remain third favourites in the market. Barcelona remain at the top of the market as 7-2 chances. The Catalan outfit duly thrashed AIK Solna 5-0 in their encounter at the Nou Camp. Italian outfit Fiorentina have moved up the betting after their 1-0 win over Arsenal. The beleagured Italians won the match courtesy of a Gabriel Batistuta piledriver which sent Arsene Wenger's team crashing out of Europe's premier competition at the first hurdle for another year. William Hill had the Italians at 50-1 but Ladbrokes have inserted them at 16-1 after the Wembley result.
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