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Date: Thurs 25 Nov 1999 00:45 GMT
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This Issue:
1. UNITED AT SEA IN CHANGING EUROPE
2. YORKE OUT?/TURNING JAPANESE
3. KEANE HOLDS UP HANDS AFTER DEFEAT
4. BERG CAN'T EXPLAIN MISTAKES
5. FERGIE: NO EXCUSES

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MANCHESTER UNITED DAILY NEWS  Thurs 25th Nov 1999:

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Manchester United FC Champions League Squad List
 1 Mark John Bosnich      2 Gary Alexander Neville 3 Dennis Joseph Irwin
 4 David May              6 Jakob Stam             7 David Robert J Beckham
 8 Nicholas Butt          9 Andrew Alex. Cole      10 Edward Sheringham
11 Ryan Joseph Giggs     12 Philip Neville         14 Johan Jordi Cruyff
15 Lars Jesper Blomqvist 16 Roy Keane           17 Raimond RJH Van der Gouw
18 Paul Scholes          19 Dwight Yorke           20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 Henning Berg          23 Michael Jamie Clegg    25 Josť Quinton Fortune
26 Massimo Taibi         31 Nicholas James Culkin  33 Mark Antony Wilson
34 Jonathan Greening

1999/2000 UEFA Champions League Second Group-Match Stage - Group B 
Group B           P W D L  F A  Pts 
Valencia CF       1 1 0 0  3 0  3 
Fiorentina AC     1 1 0 0  2 0  3 
Manchester United 1 0 0 1  0 2  0 
Bordeaux          1 0 0 1  0 3  0 

Second stage Euro Draw  GROUP B
Manchester United Valencia Bordeaux Fiorentina
Tues Nov 23 Fiorentina v Manchester United  2-0 
            Valencia v Girondins Bordeaux   3-0

Wed Dec 8 
Group B: Girondins Bordeaux v Fiorentina 
Group B: Manchester United v Valencia 
Wed Mar 1 
Group B: Manchester United v Girondins Bordeaux 
Group B: Fiorentina v Valencia 
Tues Mar 7  
Group B: Girondins Bordeaux v Manchester United 
Group B: Valencia v Fiorentina 
Wed Mar 15 
Group B: Manchester United v Fiorentina 
Group B: Girondins Bordeaux v Valencia 
Tuesday, March 21 
Group B: Fiorentina v Girondins Bordeaux 
Group B: Valencia v Manchester United 

FINAL Group D          P W D L  F A  PTS
Manchester United FC   6 4 1 1  9  4  13 
Olympique de Marseille 6 3 1 2 10  8  10 
SK Sturm Graz          6 2 0 4  5 12   6 
NK Croatia Zagreb      6 1 2 3  7  7   5 

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*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 20/11/99 ***
             Arsenal   5-1   Middlesbrough         38,082
        Derby County   1-2   Manchester United     33,370
             Everton   1-1   Chelsea               38,225
        Leeds United   2-1   Bradford City         39,937
      Leicester City   2-1   Wimbledon             18,255
         Southampton   0-1   Tottenham Hotspur     15,248
          Sunderland   0-2   Liverpool             42,015
             Watford   1-1   Newcastle United      19,539

*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 21/11/99 ***
     West Ham United   4-3   Sheffield Wednesday   23,015
*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 22/11/99 ***
       Coventry City   2-1   Aston Villa           20,184

*** CONDENSED LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 22/11/99 ***

Pos Team                  P   W   D   L   F   A   GD  Pts
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 1  Manchester United    15  10   3   2  35  20   15   33
 2  Leeds United         15  10   2   3  28  19    9   32
 3  Arsenal              15   9   2   4  26  15   11   29
 4  Sunderland           15   8   4   3  24  14   10   28
 5  Liverpool            15   8   3   4  20  12    8   27
 6  Tottenham Hotspur    14   8   2   4  24  18    6   26
 7  Leicester City       15   8   2   5  25  20    5   26
 8  Middlesbrough        15   7   1   7  20  23   -3   22
 9  Chelsea              13   6   3   4  19  11    8   21
10  West Ham United      14   6   3   5  16  14    2   21
11  Coventry City        15   5   5   5  23  17    6   20
12  Everton              15   5   5   5  24  22    2   20
13  Aston Villa          15   5   3   7  14  18   -4   18
14  Southampton          14   4   4   6  20  24   -4   16
15  Wimbledon            15   3   7   5  22  29   -7   16
16  Newcastle United     15   3   4   8  25  29   -4   13
17  Bradford City        14   3   3   8  12  23  -11   12
18  Derby County         15   3   3   9  14  26  -12   12
19  Watford              15   3   2  10  11  25  -14   11
20  Sheffield Wednesday  15   1   3  11  13  36  -23    6


*** FIXTURES ON 27/11/99 ***
       Coventry City  v  Leicester City
             Everton  v  Aston Villa
       Middlesbrough  v  Wimbledon
             Watford  v  Sunderland
     West Ham United  v  Liverpool

*** FIXTURES ON 28/11/99 ***
             Arsenal  v  Derby County
             Chelsea  v  Bradford City
        Leeds United  v  Southampton
    Newcastle United  v  Tottenham Hotspur


*** TEAM STATISTICS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 20/11/99 ***

AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 55,168
HIGHEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 25/09/99 - Southampton (55,249)
LOWEST HOME ATTENDANCE:  11/08/99 - Sheffield Wednesday (54,941)
BEST WIN:     11/08/99 - Sheffield Wednesday (4-0)
              30/08/99 - Newcastle United (5-1)
HEAVIEST DEFEAT:         03/10/99 - Chelsea (0-5)
BEST HOME WIN:           11/08/99 - Sheffield Wednesday (4-0)
                         30/08/99 - Newcastle United (5-1)
BEST AWAY WIN:           22/08/99 - Arsenal (2-1)
                         25/08/99 - Coventry City (2-1)
                         11/09/99 - Liverpool (3-2)
                         20/11/99 - Derby County (2-1)
HEAVIEST AWAY DEFEAT:    03/10/99 - Chelsea (0-5)

 NEXT MATCHES
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30-NOV-1999 [10:00] Manchester Utd. vs Palmeiras  (Inter Continental Cup, AWAY)
04-DEC-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Everton  (FA Premier League, HOME)
08-DEC-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Valencia  (UEFA Champions League, HOME)

Current Injuries
 Jesper Blomqvist        ankle           Dec 4 
 Ronny Johnsen           knee            January
 Wes Brown               knee            August


*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - 

UNITED Stats v All teams:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/
ALL FIXTURES at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix992000.htm
 
First Team Fixtures 1999/2000
All dates/times subject to change
Dates of possible cup ties also shown

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
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15/07/99    Melbourne Australia   pre-season  W  2-0     -    60,000
18/07/99    Sydney    Australia   pre-season  W  1-0     -    78,000
21/07/99    Shanghai  Shenhua     pre-season  W  2-0     -    80,000
24/07/99    Hong Kong South China pre-season  W  2-0     -    40,000

 1/08/99    Arsenal   Wembley Charity Shield  L  1-2     -    70,185
 3/08/99    Omagh Town Omagh Bomb Fund        W  9-0     -     7,000
 4/08/99    Wigan Athletic friendly           W  2-0     -    15,000 
08/08/99    Everton                  Away PL  D  1-1    10    39,141
11/08/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Home PL  W  4-0     3    54,941
14/08/99    Leeds United             Home PL  W  2-0     1    55,187
22/08/99    Arsenal                  Away PL  W  2-1     1    38,147
25/08/99    Coventry City            Away PL  W  2-1     1    22,024 
27/08/99    Monaco - Lazio               ESC  L  0-1     -    15,223
30/08/99    Newcastle United         Home     W  5-1     1    55,190
11/09/99    Liverpool                Away     W  3-2     1    44,929
14/09/99    Croatia Zagreb           Home EC  D  0-0     -    53,250
18/09/99    Wimbledon                Home     D  1-1     1    55,189
22/09/99    Sturm Graz               Away EC  W  3-0     -    16,480
25/09/99    Southampton              Home     D  3-3     1    55,249
29/09/99    Marseille                Home EC  W  2-1     -    54,276
 3/10/99    Chelsea                  Away PL  L  0-5     2    34,909
11/10/99    Sir Alex Testimonial     Home F   L  2-4  LEGENDS 54,842      
13/10/99    Aston Villa              Away WC3 L  0-3     -    33,815
16/10/99    Watford                  Home PL  W  4-1     2    55,188
19/10/99    Marseille                Away EC  L  0-1     -    57,745 
23/10/99    Tottenham Hotspur        Away     L  1-3     3    36,072
27/10/99    Croatia Zagreb           Away EC  W  2-1     -    30,000
30/10/99    Aston Villa              Home PL  W  3-0     2    55,211
 2/11/99    Sturm Graz               Home EC  W  2-1     -    53,745 
 6/11/99    Leicester City           Home PL  W  2-0     1    55,191
20/11/99    Derby County             Away     W  2-1     1    33,370
23/11/99    AC Fiorentina            Away EC  L  0-2     -    ?  

pp 27/11/99 ? Sheffield Wednesday  Away PL *No new date yet

30/11/99    Tokyo  Palmeiras         WCC       20.00
 4/12/99    Everton                  Home PL   15.00
 8/12/99    Valencia CF              Home EC   19.45
18/12/99    West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
26/12/99    Bradford City            Home PL   15.00
28/12/99    Sunderland               Away PL   20.00  "live on sky"
 3/01/2000  Middlesborough           Home PL   20.00
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 JAN 05-14  Brazil WTC [3-4 games]
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06/01/2000  Necaxa (Mexico)          Neut WTC  16.00
08/01/2000  Vasco da Gama (Brazil)   Away WTC  16.00
11/01/2000  South Melbourne (Australia) N WTC  16.00
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22/01/2000  Arsenal                  Home PL   15.00
 5/02/2000  Coventry City            Home PL   15.00
12/02/2000  Newcastle United         Away PL   15.00
26/02/2000  Wimbledon                Away PL   15.00
 1/03/2000  FC Girondins de Bordeaux Home EC   19.45 
 4/03/2000  Liverpool                Home PL   15.00
 7/03/2000  FC Girondins de Bordeaux Away EC   19.45 
11/03/2000  Derby County             Home PL   15.00
15/03/2000  AC Fiorentina            Home EC   19.45
18/03/2000  Leicester City           Away PL   15.00
21/03/2000  Valencia CF              Away EC   19.45 
25/03/2000  Bradford City            Away PL   15.00
 1/04/2000  West Ham United          Home PL   15.00
 5/04/2000  ?   EC qf i
 8/04/2000  Middlesborough           Away PL   15.00
15/04/2000  Sunderland               Home PL   15.00
19/04/2000  ?   EC qf ii
22/04/2000  Southampton              Away PL   15.00
24/04/2000  Chelsea                  Home PL   15.00
29/04/2000  West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
 3/05/2000  ?   EC sf i
 6/05/2000  Tottenham Hotspur        Home PL   15.00
10/05/2000  ?   EC sf ii
14/05/2000  Aston Villa              Away PL   15.00
24/05/2000  ?   EC Final

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UNITED AT SEA IN CHANGING EUROPE By Stephen Joyce, Sporting Life The debate over the quality of the current Manchester United team will be rekindled if they fail to retain their Champions' League title. The magnificent treble that earned a knighthood for manager Alex Ferguson and the highest praise for his squad also ensured fans of vintage Liverpool among others were outraged. And Tuesday night's dismal defeat at Fiorentina will have provided them with more ammunition as well as supporters of Brian Clough's Nottingham Forest and the Aston Villa side of the early 80s. These were sides that dominated Europe during their tenure at the top while United are showing plenty of cracks in their shiny armour barely six months after taking the trophy. The critics would claim first that the Reds were a shade fortunate to even collect the European crown. Even the most die-hard Old Trafford enthusiast must have looked at his watch as 90 minutes were up at the Nou Camp in May and conceded that Bayern Munich had beaten them. The injury-time double strike of Teddy Sheringham and Ole Solskjaer might well have amounted to seven years' good luck falling in one three-minute spell. Certainly the gods are not smiling on Ferguson this campaign. You have to attend a few snowball contests in Hell before you see Roy Keane give such a disastrous pass that led to Gabriel Batistuta's opener for Fiorentina. And a similar howler from Italian keeper Francesco Toldo from David Beckham's free kick led to the ball ricocheting onto the bar and away to safety. But though luck plays a part in the outcome of many matches, United have failed to sparkle regularly either in Europe or the Premiership this season. The most damning verdict is that they do not look an invincible side any more. Peter Schmeichel was always going to be nearly impossible to replace and though Mark Bosnich played competently in Florence and made one crucial save from Rui Costa, his woeful kicking certainly spreads alarm at the back. Ferguson's rigid 4-4-2 line-up left full-backs Gary Neville and Denis Irwin sometimes under-occupied by Fiorentina's wide men flooding the centre of midfield only to be surprised by the quick breaks of wing-backs Moreno Torricelli and Jorg Heinrich. Teams have now had a good look at United's pattern of play and dreamed up ploys to frustrate it. It is disconcerting enough for Ferguson's methods to be undermined by Fiorentina, an attractive rather than spectacular side, but even the likes of Marseille, Croatia Zagreb and Sturm Graz gained plenty of success in the first stage of matches. Fergie fans will claim that United are just going through a lean patch with a few players, most noticeably Ryan Giggs and Dwight Yorke, off form. But the main worry is the impending visit of Valencia. If the Spaniards, who looked a classy act in two comprehensive victories over Rangers recently, win at Old Trafford next month, United's reign as kings of Europe could well be over before Christmas. Their place in the pantheon of European super clubs would quickly be revised downwards
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YORKE OUT /TURNING JAPANESE YORKE OUT? Wednesday, November 24, 1999 13:47 It has emerged that Dwight Yorke may be forced to miss two Premiership matches in the New Year on international duty. The CONCACAF Gold Cup is due to take place next February, and Dwight is expected to be named in the Trinidad and Tobago squad for the tournament, which is the South American equivalent of the European Championships. As it stands, Dwight will miss the matches against Newcastle at St James' Park, and Wimbledon at Old Trafford. But if Trinidad and Tobago insist, he could be out for a whole month. "The Gold Cup is regarded as a prestige tournament and the regulations for the release of players are the same as for those for the World Cup and European Championships," explained FIFA spokesman Andrew Cooper. The club seem powerless to prevent Dwight from going. "By the sound of it, there is very little that we can do," admitted club secretary Ken Merrett. We will just have to hope that Trinidad and Tobago forget they have Dwight to call on. That's not very likely though, is it! TURNING JAPANESE Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:21 Going to Tokyo? No? You part-timer! Then it's lucky for you* that MUTV are. The Reds' own television channel will be screening the entire Intercontinental Cup match against Palmeiras on Tuesday 30 November, at a time to suit their loyal audience (Mad Barry in Aalborg). The game kicks-off at 10am (UK time) but the match will be broadcast 'as live' on MUTV at 8pm, so if you can avoid the score while you're at school, work or the bookies, you can see the whole game on MUTV at a more convenient time in the evening. This gives Barry time to line up the beer and Danish pastries ready for a good night in front of the box. Not only that, but the channel's Red Hot News team will also bring you interviews and features direct from Japan, as Sir Alex Ferguson's men acclimatize in the build-up to the big game. Barry will endeavour to keep you fully informed, using all the latest technology to cut and paste everything he can point his mouse at! The broadcast of this match is a real coup for MUTV, whose first team match coverage this season has already included the Super Cup clash with Lazio, Sir Alex Ferguson's testimonial and United's four-match pre-season tour to Australia and the Far East. United fans have been enjoying a healthy diet of match action on MUTV this month, with three live Reserve games in eight days producing ten goals and four red cards! For details of how you can subscribe to MUTV, please click **HERE. (*assuming you live in the UK!) (** assuming you have a very vivid imagination)
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KEANE HOLDS UP HANDS AFTER DEFEAT Roy Keane held his hands up a after Manchester United's defence of the European Cup took a turn for the worst aganst Fiorentina on Tuesday night. The United and Republic of Ireland skipper showed a rare lack of composure with a poor back-pass that led to Gabriel Batistuta scoring the first goal for Fiorentina, before Henning Berg also lost possession and Abel Balbo added the second to earn the Italians a 2-0 win. Keane was none too pleased: "The two goals we gave away, you can't do that at this level," he confessed. "In fact you can't do that at any level and we got punished. Besides that I thought we dominated the game, but goals win matches and we didn't score, while they got two and that was it. I thought we were the better team, but goals decide matches and we made two bad mistakes and we got punished, that's football." Jaap Stam refused to blame Keane and Berg: "I think people know what they are doing and they're only human and it's unfortunate that it's happened. "It was unfortunate because we knew if they scored that their fans would really get behind the team." Keane added: "We still have five matches in the Champions League. We lost one game in the last group to Marseille so really we can afford one defeat, but that's all and now we need to win our remaining matches."
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BERG CAN'T EXPLAIN MISTAKES Henning Berg cannot explain why he has suddenly become as accident prone as Frank Spencer. The Norwegian made a name for himself at Blackburn and then Manchester United as a reliable and solid defender who rarely made mistakes. However, that reputation has been severely dented by a couple of clangers in the Champions League. In September at Old Trafford he lost the ball to Ibrahima Bakayoko and the Marseille forward raced through to score. At the time a distraught Berg held up his hand and promised it would not happen again. But against Fiorentina he was caught out again as Gabriel Batistuta dispossessed him and set up Abel Balbo for the Serie A side's second goal in United's 2-0 defeat in Florence. Berg offered no excuses and he is praying that it will not be a case of third time unlucky. "First I thought I would stop and see what was going on and then I thought I would play it back to Bozzie (Mark Bosnich)," he explained. "But Batistuta intercepted it, and he was a bit lucky because it fell to him, and he ran straight through on goal. "It was a bad mistake by me and that goal was my fault. You make a mistake like I did and you lose the game. "People say that these things happen, but they never happened to me before. That's one of my strengths that I don't make any silly mistakes. "But obviously that was a mistake again and I don't have any explanation - it's just not good enough."
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FERGIE: NO EXCUSES Sir Alex Ferguson claimed Manchester United gifted Fiorentina their two goals as the Treble winners crashed to their heaviest Champions League defeat in five years. Roy Keane and Henning Berg blundered to allow Gabriel Batistuta and Abel Balbo to score in the Stadio Comunale Artemio Franchi as United's Group B campaign got off to a calamitous start. ``The game was decided by two bad mistakes and we can have no complaints,'' said United boss. ``We've got to accept the situation although it was a game we controlled but we made bad mistakes. I don't think we deserved to lose but you can't make excuses for those two goals. ``At this level you've got to make sure you don't make any mistakes - not even one and that's cost us tonight. ``If we had not made those mistakes I don't think Fiorentina would have been in the game. ``Because if you look at the facts they never had control of the game and we did.'' Ferguson, though, admitted that Batistuta, whom he tried to sign twice in the past three years, finished well for his goal in the 24th minute. ``You can't correct a mistake but you have to admit that was an absolutely brilliant finish,'' he said. ``I don't know if he placed it or just hit it but nevertheless it was very accurate and just inside the post.'' Ferguson also defended David Beckham, who was booed by the home fans after he played on while a Fiorentina player was off the pitch receiving attention. The England midfielder also came in for some rough treatment from opposing players before he was booked for dissent after taking a free-kick without the referee's permission. Ferguson said: ``The referee signalled for him to play on because the Fiorentina player was off the pitch so quite rightly we played on and it was the referee's decision not our decision.'' Fiorentina coach Giovanni Trapattoni did not want to be drawn on the Beckham issue. He said: ``There was a bit of tension caused by that but I really don't want to focus on that. The only bad thing from my point of view was that Batistuta was booked and he will miss the game in Bordeaux.'' Trapattoni preferred to talk about what was a great result for the Serie A side who have not conceded a goal in their three Champions League matches against United and Arsenal. ``I was not surprised with this result because we have been working towards this for some time. ``Our performances against Arsenal and Parma showed what we can be like and it was a matter of believing in ourselves and that we could beat Manchester United.'' United's next game against Valencia at Old Trafford on December 8 has taken on even more importance and the Treble winners know it is a must-win game.
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