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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Sat Sep 25 07:21:34 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Sparky + Southampton Preview
2. Player View  By Jaap Stam - Telegraph
3. History repeats with Beckham under scrutiny  - Telegraph
6. The Death of Duncan Edwards  by Arthur Hopcraft
7. Keane may need surgery on knee



Barry Comment:
Today is a special day at OT as "the old warhorse" Mark Hughes
could well play his last game there today. I am sure all REDS will join me
in wishing Sparky all the very best for the future with Wales.

BARRY Memory - I was one of the 18,414 Watford that fateful day 3rd May 1986 when
Mark was sold to Barcelona (£2.5 Million). He was gutted leaving that pitch we all 
knew he didn't want to go, we sang, Mark acknowledged but Atkinson had sold him! 
Thankfully he was back August 1988 v QPR under Alex Ferguson. Loftus Rd and a crowd
of 46,377 welcomed him back to English Football! fee from Barcelona (£1.8 Million)

Uniteds unbeaten runs currently stand at:
28 games League
43 games League and Cup
37 games domestic League and Cup

Message from Paul Hinson:
The 40-game record Nottingham Forest hold is 40 games in domestic League
and Cup. United need to remain unbeaten against Southampton/Chelsea/Watford
and whoever we play in the Worthington Cup 3rd Round to beat it.
The League only record is 42 games, against by Forest, and we would need to
avoid defeat up to around January 15 2000 to manage that!

NEW Treble Background
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or http://www.red11.org/mufc/images/99/treble_mufc.jpg
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Group D  ** Manchester United **
Olympique de Marseille * NK Croatia Zagreb * SK Sturm Graz

Manchester United FC Champions League Squad List
 1 Mark John Bosnich      2 Gary Alexander Neville 3 Dennis Joseph Irwin
 4 David May              6 Jakob Stam             7 David Robert J Beckham
 8 Nicholas Butt          9 Andrew Alex. Cole      10 Edward Sheringham
11 Ryan Joseph Giggs     12 Philip Neville         14 Johan Jordi Cruyff
15 Lars Jesper Blomqvist 16 Roy Keane           17 Raimond RJH Van der Gouw
18 Paul Scholes          19 Dwight Yorke           20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 Henning Berg          23 Michael Jamie Clegg    25 Josť Quinton Fortune
26 Massimo Taibi         31 Nicholas James Culkin  33 Mark Antony Wilson
34 Jonathan Greening

Real Audio - Last weeks Daily News Sound Archive:
Click on INDEX at http://www.red11.org/sound

             Arsenal  v  Watford
       Coventry City  v  West Ham United
        Derby County  v  Bradford City
        Leeds United  v  Newcastle United
      Leicester City  v  Aston Villa
   Manchester United  v  Southampton
       Middlesbrough  v  Chelsea
          Sunderland  v  Sheffield Wednesday

*** FIXTURES ON 26/09/99 ***
           Wimbledon  v  Tottenham Hotspur


99/2000 fixtures/match reports are at

Mark Bosnich's Personal Details 



Previous News:
 BSKYB Takeover news/pics at http://www.red11.org/mufc/bskyb.htm
  Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
 Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!

** FULL LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 18/09/99 ***

Pos Team                  P  W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A   GD  Pts
 1  Manchester United     8  3  1  0  12   2   3  1  0   8   5   13   20
 2  Arsenal               8  3  0  1   8   4   2  1  1   3   3    4   16
 3  Aston Villa           8  3  1  0   7   2   2  0  2   3   4    4   16
 4  Sunderland            8  2  2  0   5   1   2  0  2   8   7    5   14
 5  Chelsea               6  3  0  0   6   0   1  1  1   3   3    6   13
 6  West Ham United       5  3  0  0   4   1   1  1  0   5   2    6   13
 7  Leeds United          7  1  1  1   3   3   3  0  1   9   6    3   13
 8  Middlesbrough         7  2  0  2   4   6   2  0  1   6   4    0   12
 9  Leicester City        8  2  2  0   6   4   1  0  3   5   6    1   11
10  Everton               7  2  1  0   9   2   1  0  3   4   7    4   10
11  Tottenham Hotspur     6  2  0  1   7   5   1  1  1   3   3    2   10
12  Liverpool             7  1  0  2   4   4   2  1  1   6   5    1   10
13  Southampton           7  2  0  2   6   6   1  0  2   4   7   -3    9
14  Watford               8  2  0  2   4   4   1  0  3   1   4   -3    9
15  Derby County          8  1  0  3   3  10   1  2  1   4   4   -7    8
16  Wimbledon             8  0  2  2   5   7   1  2  1   7  10   -5    7
17  Coventry City         7  1  0  3   6   7   0  2  1   2   3   -2    5
18  Bradford City         7  0  2  1   2   5   1  0  3   1   4   -6    5
19  Newcastle United      7  0  1  2   4   6   0  0  4   4  13  -11    1
20  Sheffield Wednesday   7  0  0  4   2   8   0  1  2   1   7  -12    1

25-SEP-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Southampton  (FA Premier League, HOME)
29-SEP-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Marseilles  (UEFA Champions League, HOME)
03-OCT-1999 [16:00] Manchester Utd. vs Chelsea  (FA Premier League, AWAY)
16-OCT-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Watford  (FA Premier League, HOME)
19-OCT-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Marseilles  (UEFA Champions League, AWAY)

The line-up for the testimonial game is:
Eric Cantona		Peter Schmeichel
Zinedine Zidane		Gabriel Batistuta
Paul Gascoigne 		Juninho
George Weah		Alessandro Costacurta
Christian Ziege		Lillian Thuram
Roberto Mancini		John Collins


UNITED Stats v All teams:
ALL FIXTURES at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix992000.htm
First Team Fixtures 1999/2000
All dates/times subject to change
Dates of possible cup ties also shown

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/07/99    Melbourne Australia   pre-season  W  2-0     -    60,000
18/07/99    Sydney    Australia   pre-season  W  1-0     -    78,000
21/07/99    Shanghai  Shenhua     pre-season  W  2-0     -    80,000
24/07/99    Hong Kong South China pre-season  W  2-0     -    40,000

 1/08/99    Arsenal   Wembley Charity Shield  L  1-2     -    70,185
 3/08/99    Omagh Town Omagh Bomb Fund        W  9-0     -     7,000
 4/08/99    Wigan Athletic friendly           W  2-0     -    15,000 
08/08/99    Everton                  Away PL  D  1-1    10    39,141
11/08/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Home PL  W  4-0     3    54,941
14/08/99    Leeds United             Home PL  W  2-0     1    55,187
22/08/99    Arsenal                  Away PL  W  2-1     1    38,147
25/08/99    Coventry City            Away PL  W  2-1     1    22,024 
27/08/99    Monaco - Lazio               ESC  L  0-1     -    15,223
30/08/99    Newcastle United         Home     W  5-1     1    55,190
11/09/99    Liverpool                Away     W  3-2     1    44,929
14/09/99    Croatia Zagreb           Home EC  D  0-0     -    53,250
18/09/99    Wimbledon                Home     D  1-1     1    55,189
22/09/99    Sturm Graz               Away EC  W  3-0     -     ?

25/09/99    Southampton              Home PL   15.00
29/09/99    Marseille                Home EC   19.45
 3/10/99    Chelsea                  Away PL   16.00   "live on sky"

*11/10/99   Sir Alex Ferguson's testimonial OT [Schmeichel + Cantona]

13/10/99    ?     WC 3
16/10/99    Watford                  Home PL   15.00
19/10/99    Marseille                Away EC   19.45 
23/10/99    Tottenham Hotspur        Away PL   15.00
27/10/99    Croatia Zagreb           Away EC   19.45
30/10/99    Aston Villa              home PL   15.00
 2/11/99    Sturm Graz               Home EC   19.45 
 6/11/99    Leicester City           Home PL   15.00
20/11/99    Derby County             Away PL   15.00
24/11/99    ?     EC
27/11/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Away PL   15.00
30/11/99    Tokyo  Palmeiras         WCC       20.00
 1/12/99    ?     WC 4
 4/12/99    Everton                  Home PL   15.00
 8/12/99    ?     EC
11/12/99    FAC 3 Will not enter ...
15/12/99    ?     WC 5
18/12/99    West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
26/12/99    Bradford City            Home PL   15.00
28/12/99    Sunderland               Away PL   20.00  "live on sky"
 3/01/2000  Middlesborough           Home PL   20.00

 ***** 5-14 /01/2000 Brazil WTC  *****   [3-4 games]

*  8/01/2000  FAC 4 Will not enter ...
12/01/2000  ?    WC sf i
15/01/2000  Leeds United             Away PL   15.00
22/01/2000  Arsenal                  Home PL   15.00
26/01/2000  ?    WC sf ii
* 29/01/2000  FAC 5 Will not enter ...
 5/02/2000  Coventry City            Home PL   15.00
12/02/2000  Newcastle United         Away PL   15.00
* 19/02/2000  FAC 6 Will not enter ...
26/02/2000  Wimbledon                Away PL   15.00
27/02/2000  ?   Wembley WC f
 1/03/2000  ?   EC
 4/03/2000  Liverpool                Home PL   15.00
 8/03/2000  ?   EC
11/03/2000  Derby County             Home PL   15.00
15/03/2000  ?   EC
18/03/2000  Leicester City           Away PL   15.00
22/03/2000  ?   EC
25/03/2000  Bradford City            Away PL   15.00
 1/04/2000  West Ham United          Home PL   15.00
 5/04/2000  ?   EC qf i
 8/04/2000  Middlesborough           Away PL   15.00
*  9/04/2000  FAC sf Will not enter ...
15/04/2000  Sunderland               Home PL   15.00
19/04/2000  ?   EC qf ii
22/04/2000  Southampton              Away PL   15.00
24/04/2000  Chelsea                  Home PL   15.00
29/04/2000  West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
 3/05/2000  ?   EC sf i
 6/05/2000  Tottenham Hotspur        Home PL   15.00
10/05/2000  ?   EC sf ii
14/05/2000  Aston Villa              Away PL   15.00
* 20/05/2000 Wembley FAC f Will not enter ...
24/05/2000  ?    EC f



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Subject: Sparky + Southampton Preview From: "Paul Hinson" My feeling is that Mark Hughes will retire at the end of the season, particularly if he keeps the Wales job. If he plays for Southampton at Old Trafford tomorrow it may be our last chance to salute a REAL Red legend (as long as he doesn't maim Berg or Stam). A fearless warrior, who just loved bruising Scousers and Blues (and is still doing it). The scorer of critical, priceless and spectacular goals. 8th in the all-time League + Cup appearance list -463 8th in the list of League goalscorers -120 Joint 4th in FA Cup appearances -46 6th in FA Cup goalscorers -17 4th in League Cup appearances -38 2nd in League Cup goals -16 From that thumping header at Oxford in 1983, to the shot drilled in against Arsenal in 1995. A great collection of memories. A reminder of his career in a Red shirt... MARK HUGHES Birthplace: Wrexham, 1/11/1963 Height: 175cm - 5ft 9in Weight: 70.76kg - 11st 2lb Full International: Wales (65 caps, 16 goals) Position: Forward Debut: 26.10.1983 Appearances (1983-1995): 468 - 12 as sub Goals: 164 Mark Hughes was born in Wrexham on 1st November 1963. He was first spotted by United scout Hugh Roberts as a 12-year-old whilst playing for local schoolboy teams Rhos Aelwyd under 16's and Wrexham schoolboys. At 14 he joined Manchester United on Associate Schoolboy forms, signing as an apprentice in June 1980. He was initially signed as a midfield player until United's youth team coach Syd Owen, switched him to centre-forward. The move proved to be a stroke of genius. In 1982, Hughes partnered Norman Whiteside up front in the F.A. Youth Cup Final (which they lost to Watford), the first Youth Cup Final a United team had featured in since the days of Matt Busby. In November 1983, Hughes got his opportunity in the first team, replacing Arthur Graham, on the right-wing, in a League Cup tie at Oxford in which Hughes scored the only goal of the game! By the end of the season, with Frank Stapleton injured, Hughes had become a regular in the first team. However, despite picking up an F.A. Cup winners' medal in 1985 and the PFA Young Player of the Year Award in the same year, all was not going well for the young Welshman. He was a quiet youngster off the pitch who kept himself to himself - despite his explosive nature on the football field. Collecting only £200 per week in 1985, Hughes refused (mainly through the advice of agents) to sign a new contract with Manchester United. This sparked off interest from all corners of Europe, especially when he netted 10 goals in the opening 13 games of the season in 1985. By the end of the 1985-86 season Hughes was on his way to the Nou Camp, after signing for Barcelona six months earlier, in a deal which cost Barcelona £2.5 million. However, his venture abroad proved to be unsuccessful and within 12 months he had been loaned out to Bayern Munich. By the time Hughes returned to Old Trafford in 1988 for £1.8 million, United had a new manager, Alex Ferguson, new players and backroom staff. The move was greeted with much delight by the United faithful, who had blamed the board for him leaving two years earlier and claimed his departure had robbed them of the chance of winning their first League Championship in 19 years. His second spell with Manchester United coincided with one of the clubs most successful periods. Hughes collected a second F.A Cup winners' medal in 1990, after earning a reply against Crystal Palace. He won a European Cup Winners' Cup medal a year later (United's first European Trophy in 23 years) and 12 months later he was in the team when United won the League Cup for the first time in the club's history, beating Nottingham Forest 1-0. However, the League title was the one all the United supporters wanted: the 'Holy Grail'. The final piece in the United jigsaw was to be Eric Cantona. The press claimed on Cantona's arrival at Old Trafford in November 1992, that the two would never work together. Yet nothing was further from the truth, the Hughes - Cantona partnership worked from the start culminating in United winning the League Championship in 1993 and the double in 1994. Renowned for his strength, this hard muscular forward has the ability to hold the ball up like no other forward of his generation. However, he will be remembered by the supporters for the spectacular, not to mention important goals he scored. His equaliser in the 3-3 draw in the F.A Cup final in 1990, his two in Rotterdam, which won United the European Cup Winners' Cup, his 100th league goal for United against Crystal Palace which helped clinch the League title for United in 1993, his stunning volleys - which are too many to mention. But none of his goals will be remembered more than 'The one that saved the double', his equaliser in the last seconds of the 1994 F.A Cup semi-final against Oldham Athletic. After playing a total of 459 games and scoring 161 goals for United, he moved to Chelsea, on a free transfer in 1995. (The club he supported as a child). At Stamford Bridge he became a firm favourite with the Chelsea supporters. In 1997 he won a fourth F.A Cup winners' medal when Chelsea beat Middlesbrough 2-0 in the final. He is the only player this century to win 4 F.A Cup medals and equalled Johnny Giles, Frank Stapleton and Joe Hulme's record of 5 F.A Cup final appearances. A move to Southampton was completed before the start of the 1998/99 season. He was awarded the M.B.E in the 1998 New Years honours list in recognition for his services to football. Did You Know? Mark Hughes scored on his debut for United and on his international debut for Wales. Mark Hughes won the the PFA Young Player of the Year Award in 1985 and the PFA Player of the Year Award in 1989 and 1991. MARK SEES RED AGAIN Southampton FC have one last chance to take home a League point from Old Trafford in the 1990s. Manchester United's great decade has seen them make light work of the South Coast side in this fixture, and it's not since 19 November 1988, that they've dropped any home points to the struggling Saints. The teamsheets from that day make interesting reading. Saints' midweek sinner Mark Hughes was then a United player, of course, and he netted the Reds' second goal in the 2-2 draw. Two current Premiership managers were also in the United line-up: Gordon Strachan and Bryan Robson. Southampton, meanwhile, fielded all three Wallace brothers, including Danny who later joined United. Matt Le Tissier, then aged 20, wore the number nine shirt, while an eighteen-year-old prodigy named Alan Shearer sat on the bench for the entire ninety minutes. Of course, Le Tiss is still with Southampton, having resisted Shearer's external route to greater glories. Nobody has since lived up to the England captain's record at The Dell, but one of the best imitators, Kevin Davies, is now back in the fold after a season of woe with Blackburn Rovers. Meanwhile Egil Ostenstad, a former tormentor of United's, has travelled in the opposite direction to join Brian Kidd's stockpile of strikers. Saints boss Dave Jones has a similar list of forwards himself, but it might be Hobson's choice on Saturday, given that Davies is struggling with an ankle injury, Marian Pahars has a virus, and Luis Boa Morte is suspended. It was telling that on Wednesday night, when Saints knocked Manchester City out of the Worthington Cup, the four goals either came from midfield via Matthew Oakley (two) or defence via Jason Dodd and match-winner Dean Richards. Eight men played for the full two hours and several of these - Lundekvam, Richards and Kachloul - were all under treatment by the week's end. Le Tissier was only a substitute against City, and he was then subbed himself the following night, when he sustained a facial injury in a Reserve match. The playmaker's split lip and loose tooth make him doubtful for the Saints' second September trip to Manchester. In the light of their injury list, another 0-0 draw such as the one achieved against City at Maine Road would be a real bonus for Southampton. Perhaps their best hope is for United to allow some uncharacteristic complacency to creep in. Sir Alex Ferguson would not tolerate that, of course, and has a plan B should the unlikely occur. Quinton Fortune, Jonathan Greening and Mark Wilson can all come in and do a job if a senior player looks remotely disinterested. They'll sit on the bench while Nicky Butt takes the place of Roy Keane, whose knee injury has unfortunately recurred. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is also set for a recall, to cover for Andy Cole who serves a one-match ban. It remains to be seen whether the bench will accommodate Mark Bosnich, the Reds' big summer signing. The Australian is surely now the third choice goalkeeper, especially after Raimond van der Gouw's magnificent performance in Graz this week. On that display, it would be harsh to drop the Dutchman, but equally Massimo Taibi has done nothing wrong and he will return for a second home appearance. So too, Mickael Silvestre, who looks set to become far more popular in Manchester than he ever was in Milan. Probable teams: United: Taibi; Irwin, Berg, Stam, Silvestre; Beckham, Scholes, Butt, Cruyff; Solskjaer, Yorke. Southampton: Jones; Dodd, Benali, Richards, Lundekvam; Oakley, Bridge, Soltvedt, Ripley; Hughes, Kachloul.
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Subject: Player View By Jaap Stam - Telegraph LET ME dispel a few rumours about Mark Bosnich. There has been a lot of talk in the newspapers that our Australian goalkeeper is unpopular in the dressing-room and has been shunned for his "arrogant" behaviour. This could not be further from the truth. 'Bozzie' is a very friendly guy who everyone at Manchester United gets along with. He is not a disruptive character by any means and I have seen no signs of this alleged arrogance. Of course, the last few weeks have been difficult for Bozzie. He probably arrived at Old Trafford expecting to be the first-choice goalkeeper, but the manager has now assembled a pool of three excellent goalkeepers who are all competing for that one place. These situations are a test for any professional, and Bozzie has responded well. I am just glad I don't have to decide which one of them plays in which game, because none of them has let us down this season. Massimo Taibi has settled in very well; the only goal Mark Bosnich has conceded was my own goal at Everton; and Raimond van der Gouw has kept clean sheets in both of our Champions' League fixtures. Having the goalkeeper constantly changing behind me isn't a problem. They are all experienced goalkeepers, and you cannot say it has affected our form. It is now two months into the season and we have yet to lose a game. The last fortnight has seen us back in Champions' League action, with differing results. We were disappointed to only draw at home to Croatia Zagreb, but made amends with a convincing win over Sturm Graz a week later. The Croatians came to Old Trafford and, as expected, were very defensive. They put a wall across the back and we just could not break through it. In a situation like that you have to convert the few chances you create, but we failed to. Ossie Ardiles was renowned for his attacking football at Tottenham Hotspur, but he is not stupid, he knows what we can do, and adjusted his tactics accordingly. At the final whistle the Zagreb players celebrated as if they had won the Champions' League itself. They might have only drawn, but for them it was a historic result. Normal service was resumed on Wednesday when we won comfortably in Austria. Being the home team, Sturm Graz had to come at us and that gave us plenty of space to play behind them. It was an easy win, but we realise there are tougher battles ahead. Our next two Champions' League games are against the group leaders, Marseilles. These clashes will decide the group winners. We flew home from Austria on Wednesday night to find that the newspapers were focusing more on a couple of incidents involving David Beckham than our solid performance in the Arnold Schwarznegger Stadium. It is obvious that David is increasingly becoming a target for the opposition this season. They realise how important he is to us as a team and so try to put him off his game. This takes the form of players pulling his shirt and aiming sly kicks at him. David copes very well with such attention, but after a while, it is inevitable that he is going to react. It would get on anyone's nerves. I sympathise with him as he has to put up with it every time he steps on the pitch, it's not something I have to deal with. Players don't waste their time trying to rile me. You could see on Wednesday that the Strum Graz player, Roman Mahlich, was making a real effort to put him off his game. He was going for him all game. In the end he was booked, but so was David. David is 24-years-old now, you can't change him, to do so would be to take away an essential part of his game. A touch of aggression helps David with his game, making him a more rounded player. Controlled aggression was what made Mark Hughes, visiting us this afternoon with Southampton, such a legend at Old Trafford. I never played with 'Sparky', but four years after he left, he is still spoken about with great affection by the players who did. The supporters at Old Trafford will give him a wonderful reception as well. Again, they appreciate a player who gets fired up for the cause. I am just relieved that he now seems to be playing in midfield, so I may not come up against him directly too often. Southampton have had an indifferent start to the season, but as Wimbledon proved last Saturday, no team in the Premiership should ever be underestimated. In fact, we were fortunate to escape with a draw against the Dons after falling behind. We will be on our guard against Southampton and I can only hope that by five o'clock it hasn't been too happy a homecoming for Mark Hughes. Manchester United - The Legend - http://manunited.net
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Subject: History repeats with Beckham under scrutiny - Telegraph FORTY years apart, there is a similarity in the tactical dilemma that faces David Beckham regarding his role for either Manchester United or England that formerly existed with Bobby Charlton. It is a puzzling option on which Alex Ferguson and Kevin Keegan ponder, just as it was for Matt Busby and Walter Winterbottom, then Alf Ramsey. Both players, prime international figures of their day, have appeared predominantly on the wing initially: Beckham right, and Charlton left. There is now a pressing need, in my opinion, for Beckham, at the age of 24, to switch to central midfield as Charlton eventually did, at 27, in the autumn of 1964. With the emergence of George Best on the wing, Charlton's move into a broader role was part of the making of the championship-winning United years of 1965 and 1967. Ferguson is well aware of the possibility, though for the moment prefers the danger to defences caused by Beckham's tantalising crossing of the ball from wide positions. Beckham himself is open-minded. "I really prefer the middle of the field," he says. "But so long as the manager's happy, I'm glad to play on the wing. All that really matters to me is to be on the pitch." A sound sentiment. The problem for Beckham, and Ferguson, is that opposing defences are becoming increasingly adept at shutting down Beckham's threat. His marker gets close but holds off, giving Beckham space on the outside while blocking the vision and path for an intended early cross. Because Beckham has not the same acceleration and body swerve as Charlton had, he is less likely to beat his marker to create space for a cross from the outside. Therefore he has to release the ball inside, either square or back. Charlton began, in his sensational teenage days, as an old-fashioned striking "inside-forward" - the double spearhead with a centre-forward in the 3-3-4 formation, including two wingers, which by the late 1950s was replacing the old WM alignment of two full-backs pivoting around a stopper centre-half, two wing-halves and two inside forwards in midfield, and three committed strikers. Alongside Tommy Taylor, Charlton played between Johnny Berry and either Albert Scanlon or David Pegg on the left. However, everything altered following the Munich air crash, with the death of Pegg and injuries to both Berry and Scanlon. "I changed because in those days you had to have wingers," Charlton recalls. "Busby asked me if I minded, in emergency, and soon England also played me on the wing." Having scored three goals in his first two international matches in 1958, and another six in seven matches in 1958-59 at inside forward, Charlton then switched to the wing where he played in 42 of England's next 51 matches; and was voted the best left-winger in World Cup '62. When United won the title in 1965, Ramsey likewise reverted to using Charlton in a central position, now as a free, striking midfielder in the innovative 4-3-3 formation, first tellingly introduced to defeat Spain in Madrid in December that year. "I was best suited to midfield," Charlton says. "I had a good engine, the stamina, I could run a lot. I was utterly frustrated on the wing [never mind scoring 31 times in 43 matches], dependent on getting the ball from others. I found the job easy, attacking the full-back, but I was impatient, I wanted to make more of an impact." Having been on the wing in the 1963 FA Cup final, Charlton had remained there throughout much of the following season in a forward line reading: Moir, Chisnall or Herd, Sadler, Law, Charlton. His change of role helped to transform Ramsey's England and United's side. Beckham has seldom made more impact in his 25 international matches than against Colombia in 1998, when Glen Hoddle belatedly introduced him to the ailing World Cup formation in central-midfield. Playing inside Darren Anderton, and scoring his only goal for England so far, Beckham took full advantage of the space to be able to move left or right. It was a pointer which has since been largely ignored. "He's got all the attributes for midfield," Charlton says. "He has the stamina, he can run all day, he can shoot. He's not a Platini, but when he's become a bit more crafty, more deceptive, I'm sure he'll become a central midfielder." Perhaps that moment has, of necessity, already arrived. Manchester United - The Legend - http://manunited.net
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Subject: UNITED DIG HEELS IN OVER FA CUP Manchester United insist they cannot re-enter the FA Cup despite Tony Blair's appeal to them to return. The Prime Minister wants United to sit down with the Football Association and try and find a way of enabling the Treble winners to defend the trophy this season. But United say no-one has come up with a way of reducing their hectic fixture schedule to allow them to participate in the FA Cup. United withdrew from the competition three months ago because the then Sports Minister Tony Banks and the FA wanted them to compete in FIFA's inaugural World Club Championship in Brazil in January and so help England's 2006 World Cup bid. The Old Trafford outfit reluctantly pulled out of the FA Cup because they felt they could not play in both competitions. United maintain that no-one has come up with a better solution that would enable them to take part without adding to their already considerable fixture burden. United spokesman Ken Ramsden said: "The position remains unchanged. The fundamental issue here is the number of matches our players will have to play. "We understand what others are saying but until someone can offer a solution which reduces our number of games then we are stuck where we are. Therefore our position remains unchanged."
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Subject: FERGIE - WE CAN HANDLE SCHEDULE By David Anderson, PA Sport Sir Alex Ferguson is confident his Manchester United players can cope with their hectic fixture schedule as they prepare for their fifth game in 15 days against Southampton on Saturday. The Treble winners have already played 12 matches this season, compared to 10 at the same stage a year ago. Unlike last season, United seem to be picking up a fresh injury with every game and they will be without at least seven players for the visit of Saints. Ferguson admits he is concerned by the never-ending sequence of matches, but believes his players will manage. "They have played a lot of matches, particularly the centre-backs and Scholes and Beckham, they've all played a lot of football and Phil Neville has played in all the matches," said the United boss. "It's what you expect really and once the Champions League starts, you know it's going to be Saturday, Wednesday, Saturday, Wednesday. "So it is quite a programme, but at the end of the day the players are strong enough and they can handle it. "It concerns everyone, but you are faced with it and you have to get on with it." Ferguson's confidence is based on his vast squad and even without so many players, he still has cover in every position. "We've known for years that you need big squads and ours has proved invaluable, simply because of the number of injuries we have at the moment," he said. "That's the reason why we have a big squad of players and it compensates when some players are out. "At the moment we have eight or nine players out, which is a handicap, but nonetheless we've got to find a way around it and having a big pool of players helps." Roy Keane will be one of those missing at Old Trafford and the United skipper may need minor surgery on his troublesome knee. Keane saw club specialist Jonathan Noble on Thursday after the injury flared up again against Sturm Graz on Wednesday. So far United have been using rest to treat the problem, but now they are waiting to hear if he may require a small operation to clean out the knee. Ferguson said: "He went to see the specialist yesterday afternoon and we're just waiting for him to come back to us. "We don't know for sure yet what's going to happen with it. "We knew that he was not 100% fit on Wednesday, but he wanted to play and we were happy to play him in an important match." Keane is doubtful for Wednesday's Champions League clash with Marseille at Old Trafford, but Ferguson is optimistic he will be back for the trip to Chelsea on Sunday week. "He's out for Southampton and maybe Wednesday as well," said Ferguson. "We're probably looking at next Sunday against Chelsea for him." Another player definitely out is the suspended Andy Cole, while Nicky Butt has an outside chance of recovering from his groin injury. Massimo Taibi and Mickael Silvestre are available again and the Italian goalkeeper is expected to replace Raimond van der Gouw. Meanwhile, United insist they cannot re-enter the FA Cup despite Tony Blair's appeal to them to return. The Prime Minister wants United to sit down with the Football Association and try and find a way of enabling the Old Trafford club to defend the trophy this season. However United claim no-one has come up with a way of reducing their hectic fixture schedule to allow them to participate in the FA Cup. United spokesman Ken Ramsden said: "The fundamental issue here is the number of matches our players will have to play. "We understand what others are saying, but until someone can offer a solution which reduces our number of games then we are stuck where we are." United withdrew from the competition three months ago because the then Sports Minister Tony Banks and the FA wanted them to compete in FIFA's inaugural World Team Championship in Brazil in January and so help England's 2006 World Cup bid.
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Subject: The Death of Duncan Edwards by Arthur Hopcraft Anyone who was in Manchester in February 1958, particularly if he lived there, as I did, will remember for ever the stunning impact on the city of the air crash at Munich airport which killed eight of Manchester United's players. The shock was followed, just as it is in particularly closely tied families after a death, by a lingering communal desolation. No other tragedy in sport has been as brutal or as affecting as this one. It was not simply that very popular athletes had been killed and a brilliantly promising team destroyed. There was a general youthfulness about this particular Manchester United team which was new to the game. Manchester relished this fact. The old, often gloomy city had a shining exuberance to acclaim. These young players were going to take the country, and probably Europe too, by storm. To identify with this precociousness, to watch people in other towns marvelling and conceding defeat, gave a surge to the spirit. Suddeniy most of the team was dead. The players killed were Roger Byrne, Geoff Bent, Eddie Colman, Duncan Edwards, David Pegg, Mark Jones, Tommy Taylor, Bill Whelan. Four of them were England international players, Byrne and Edwards and Taylor all firmly established with appearances in the England side well into double figures. Pegg had been capped once. It was the death of Duncan Edwards which gave the deepest, most lasting pain to the community. This was not because he was liked personally any more than the others,but because there was a special appeal to people's ideals about him. Walter Winterbottom, the England team manager at the time, called him 'the spirit of British football'. He meant the football that exists in children's day-dreams and good men's hopes:honest, brilliant irresistibly strong. There was an extra poignancy in Edwards's death in that he lived for fifteen days after the crash. How bitterly that hurt. One of the key components in Duncan Edwards's appeal was his size. Big men in sport are always specially compelling, whether they lumber comically or endear by their dogged willingness. Edwards at twenty-one was a six-footer, weighing I3~2 stone, but with the immense presence he brought to his game he had nimbleness as well as strength, flair as well as calm. A youth so equipped was bound to prompt affectionate epithets from sportswriters and fans, and people cudgelled their brains to find new ones. He was Kid Dynamite, the Baby Giant, the Gentle Giant, Big Dunk, the Boy with the Heart of a Man. As the daily reports came in from the hospital in Munich, Manchester raised hope for his survival. In the second week after the crash people began to talk in their ready sentimental cliche's about the Lion-heart fighting his way through again. There was much banality in the words, but the longing was sincere. Then he died. Edwards was born in October 1936, in Dudley, Worcestershire. As a schoolboy of the forties and a teenager of the fifties he was part of the generation which linked the hard, sombre days of the war and rationing with the more dashing, mobile times which followed in such animated reaction. He would be in his early thirties now and, if still playing football, which is likely, assuredly an old-fashioned-looking figure among the imitating contem- poraries of George Best. He had dignity on the field always, even in his teens: that senior officer kind of authority which comes to few players and then late in career, as with Danny Blanchfiower, Jimmy Armfield, George Cohen. I looked through an album of photographs in Edwards's parents' home, which showed him right through his life. The face was grave, the gaze he gave at the world open and tranquil. Winter- bottom's description was not fanciful, in spite of being one which any thoughtful man would hesitate to use in connection with any player. Edwards represented the kind of self-respecting modesty which is not nurtured in the ferocity of the modern game. It has not been deliberately forced out of football; it is just not natural to the age. The album had pictures of Edwards in his street clothes, as well as in football strips, and in them the period was caught, fixed by his personality. He was bulky in those ill-fluing jackets and wide trousers with broad turn-ups. Clothes did not interest young footballers then; there was neither enough money nor a teenage~identity industry to exploit such an interest. He could have been a young miner freshly scrubbed for a night at a Labour Club dance. He did not look important, in the celebrated sense; he looked as if he mattered, and belonged, to his family and his friends. The anonymity of style was true to his generation and his kind. The situation was very different when he put his football boots on. I went to see Mr Geoff Groves, the headmaster of a secondary school in Dudley, who was one of Edwards's teachers when the boy was at primary school. Mr Groves remembered this eleven- year-old playing for the school against a neighbouring school the day after Edwards had got home from a spell of hop-picking. He said 'He dominated the whole match. He told all the other twenty-one players what to do, and the referee and both the linesmen. When I got home that evening I wrote to a friend and said I'd just seen a boy of eleven who would play for England one day.' A year later, Mr Groves said, the boy was playing 'in the style of a man, with wonderful balance and colossal power in his shot'. Already he was showing the intelligence in his game which be- came central to all he did. 'He already understood all about distribution of the ball,' said Mr Groves. 'And he was such a dominating player that the ball seemed to come to him wherever he was.' It is one of the distinguishing marks of the most talented players that they always seem to have the ball exactly when they want it. Edwards was a heroic figure in Dudley long before he became a professional player. He became captain of the England schoolboys' side, having joined it when he was thirteen, and many of the leading clubs were clamouring for his signature. Matt Busby called at his home at 2 a.m. on the morning after his sixteenth birthday and acquired him for United. He was sixteen- and-a-half when he played his first match for Urnted, 6 feet tall and weighing I 2 stone 6 lb. At eighteen-and~a~half he became the youngest player ever to be picked for the full England inter- national team. It was the one which beat Scotland 7-2 at Wembley in April i955, and this was the company he was in: Williams (Wolves); Meadows (Manchester City); Byrne (Man- chester United); Phillips (Portsmouth); Wright (Wolves, captain); Edwards; Matthews (Blackpool), Revie (Manchester City), Lofthouse (Bolton Wanderers), Wilshaw (Wolves), Blunstone (Chelsea). Sir Stanley Matthews who was forty when he played in that match, told me that he thought Edwards could truly be called unique. To Matthews, who learned his football in the days when, as he put it, 'they all said you had to be strong, with big, thick thighs,' Edwards's build was no surprise. 'But,' he said, 'he was so quick, and that was what made the difference. I can't remember any other player that size who was quick like that.' The point was emphasised eighteen months later, when Edwards, normally a left-half, was placed at inside-left in the England team against Denmark, when the forward line was Matthews, Brooks (Tottenham Hotspur), Taylor, Edwards, Finney (Preston North End), Edwards scored twice and Taylor three times in England's win, which gives an indication of the scoring power Manchester United had at their command. The fondness Manchester United's supporters felt for this player was expressed in the coinmon adulation by boys but also in the quiet admiration of the kind which fathers show for successful sons when they speak about them to neighbours, and out of the boys' hearing. In this regard for Edwards there was often a sad sympathy for opposing players who were being crushed coldly out of the game by him. I remember watching one of United's home matches when beside me was a spectator in his fifties, who shouted little but nodded his head nearly all the time in deep satisfaction,letting out occasionally an equally deep sigh which was eloquent in its pleasure. By the middle of the first half one of the opposition's inside-forwards - I forget, I am ashamed to say, the team involved, but perhaps this is also kindness - was reacting furiously to the frustration of being treated like a small child by Edwards, firmly but without viciousness or even very much concern. The player threw himself several times at Edwards, either missing the moving body entirely or bouncing off it, and on each occasion the man beside me sucked in his breath, shook his head and said softly: 'Nay, lad, not with 'im, not with 'im.' It was the decent, absorbed football fan like this one for whom Winterbottom was speaking when he called Edwards the spirit of British football. Edwards's funeral took place at St Francis's Church, Dudley, not far from his home. There were at least S,ooo people outside the church. The vicar made it a footballer's service. He said: 'He goes to join the memorable company of Steve Bloomer and Alex James.' Had he lived long enough Edwards would surely have joined the company of England team captains. Instead he left a memory of brilliance and courage and a sense of vast promise he was not allowed to fulfil. His grave in Dudley cemetery is elaborate. The headstone has an ingrained picture of him in football kit holding a ball above his head for a throw-in. An inscription reads: 'A Day of Memory, sad to recall. Without Farewell, He Left Us All.' There are three flower stands, and one of them is in the shape of a football. It suits the nature of his class and his neighbourhood, and it is attended with great care by his father, a gardener at the cemetery. His father, Mr Gladstone Edwards, felt he had to explain why he was working at the cemetery. He said: 'People think I came to this job because he's there. But that wasn't the reason. I had to change my work, and I've always liked flowers and gardening. I felt I wanted to be out of doors.' Duncan was his only child. Neither he nor his wife could hide the depth of their loss. Nor was there any reason why they should try. When I went to see them Duncan Edwards had been dead for nine years, and Mr Edwards, at least, could talk about his son straightforwardly, although all the time with a quiet deliberation. He said that even then there was still a steady trickle of visitors to Duncan's grave. There were days when twenty people would arrive to look at it, like pilgrims. They seldom knew that the gardener they stopped to talk to was the player's father. They nearly always said the same thing: that there would never be another Duncan. Mr Edwards added that Friday often brought the most visitors, and they were often lorry-drivers with Manchester accents. They had stopped on their long run home from somewhere south. The next day, of course, they would be at Old Trafford to watch the match. In Mr and Mrs Edwards's small semi-detached house the front room is kept shaded and spotless. It was in here that Mr Edwards showed me Duncan's photograph album, and also let me open a glass-fronted display cabinet and examine the mementoes of Duncan's life. It contained eighteen of his caps at full international, youth and schoolboy level, to represent the eighteen times that he played in his country's senior team. Each was kept brushed and was ifiled with tissue paper. On top of the cabinet were three framed photographs of Duncan: one taken in uniform when he was in the Army, doing his National Service, another with his fiancee and a third in which he wears a Man- chester United shirt. Beside them was a framed five pound note, which was the last present he gave his mother. The tiny room was dominated by a portrait of Edwards in his England shirt, the frame two feet wide by two-and-a-half feet long. The room was a shrine. That showcase also had a copy of the order of service which was used on the day that two stained-glass windows were dedicated to Edwards at St Francis's Church. They are close to the font, beside a picture of a gentle Jesus which was given to the church by a mother, in memory of a baby girl. One of the windows has Edwards dowii on one knee and there is a scroll running across his chest which says: 'God is with us for our Captain.' All the survivors of the Munich crash were in the church when the windows were dedicated by the Bishop of Worcester in August 1961. Busby said at the service: 'These windows should keep the name of Duncan Edwards alive for ever, and shine as a monument and example to the youth of Dudley and England.' Edwards name is also kept in front of the people of Dudley in the title of the Duncan Edwards Social Club, which is attached to the town football club, and in two trophies for local schools football. These memorials commemorate not only Duncan Edwards's football but also the simple decency of the man. He represented thousands in their wish for courage, acclaim and rare talent, and he had all three without swagger. The hero is the creature other people would like to be. Edwards was such a man, and he enabled people to respect themselves more. From 'The Football Man' 1968
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Subject: Keane may need surgery on knee By Stuart Mathieson The Irish midfielder returned against Sturm Graz in Austria on Wednesday night from a hamstring injury picked up playing for the Republic of Ireland last month, but once again felt the knee niggle which has plagued him for the last month. Despite an opening goal which fired the Reds to victory in the Arnold Schwarzenegger Stadium Keane was withdrawn from the action by manager Sir Alex Ferguson after 61 minutes still with discomfort. The skipper yesterday kept an appointment with club specialist Jonathan Noble. ``The date with the specialist was planned anyway,'' Fergie told M.E.N. Sport today. ``We'd arranged that to see if there had been any reaction after playing him in Graz. He went last night to see him and we'll know better today exactly what is going to happen. ``Roy may need an operation. The indications are that he'll need to have surgery to have the knee cleaned out.'' It would appear then that United will be without their inspiration again tomorrow against Southampton. Massimo Taibi will return in goal for the Reds against the Saints and displace United's Champions' League number one choice Raimond Van Der Gouw. Fergie will decided between Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer as to who will get Andy Cole's shirt. The Reds striker is banned for one match following his sending off at Anfield against Liverpool two weeks ago. Midfielder Nicky Butt could return to senior action. He has been out since suffering groin and ankle trouble against Liverpool. ``Nicky has trained and he could be in with a chance,'' said Fergie. Meanwhile, the United boss has confirmed that fears that Ryan Giggs would be out until the New Year with his hamstring injury were totally unfounded. ``Hamstring injuries take four to five weeks and that is still the case with Ryan,'' he says. ``It has never been the case that he'll be out until next year. Those are just the kind of stories you have to put up with at Manchester United.''
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