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Date: Fri Jun 25 GMT+00:00 1999
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This Issue:
1. Memories of Barcelona
3. Best guess at Champions League lineup by Mark Roberts
4. Duncan Edwards now Updated : more pics + splendid articles
6. Man Utd. appoint Cape crusaders  
7. Fixtures analysis From: Oded Regev 


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Next games:  ****Pre season tour JULY 1999 ***

Melbourne  Sydney  
Thu 15/7 MAN. UNITED V SOCCEROOS evening in Melbourne 
    at the MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground- capacity 90,000.) kick off 20.00hrs.
- Melbourne Cricket Ground 5 minutes from the city. Good transport available
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Wed 21/7 Shangai first time ever!!!
 This match will be watched by 80,000 fans 
  The game has sold out with the Shanghai Star reporting the home side's
  chairman Yu Zhifei as saying: ''It is unprecedented that the tickets
  should sell out for a match five weeks in advance." 

Sat 24/7 Hong Kong  Repeat of the 1997 game
 "ALL matches will be shown "the same day" om MUTV.

August 1st CHARITY SHIELD  Wembley:  Arsenal
August 3rd Omagh Town, St Julian's Road ground
            Temp seating will be erected to increase the
            capacity to 7,000 for the game.

UNITED Stats v All teams:

Pos Team                  P  W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A   GD  Pts
 1  Manchester United    38 14  4  1  45  18   8  9  2  35  19   43   79
 2  Arsenal              38 14  5  0  34   5   8  7  4  25  12   42   78
 3  Chelsea              38 12  6  1  29  13   8  9  2  28  17   27   75
 4  Leeds United         38 12  5  2  32   9   6  8  5  30  25   28   67

Here is the coming season 1999/2000 fixture list:

 7 Everton             (A)
11 Sheff Wed           (H)
14 Leeds               (H)
21 Arsenal             (A)
25 Coventry            (A)
28 Newcastle           (H)
11 Liverpool           (A)
18 Wimbledon           (H)
25 Southampton         (H)
 2 Chelsea             (A)
16 Watford             (H)
23 Tottenham           (A)
30 Aston Villa         (H)
 6 Leicester           (H)
20 Derby               (A)
27 Sheff Wed           (A)
 4 Everton             (H)
18 West Ham            (A)
26 Bradford            (H)
28 Sunderland          (A)
 3 Middlesbrough       (H)
15 Leeds               (A)
22 Arsenal             (H)
 5 Coventry            (H)
12 Newcastle           (A)
26 Wimbledon           (A)
 4 Liverpool           (H)
11 Derby               (H)
18 Leicester           (A)
25 Bradford            (A)
 1 West Ham            (H)
 8 Middlesbrough       (A)
15 Sunderland          (H)
22 Southampton         (A)
24 Chelsea             (H)
29 Watford             (A)
 6 Tottenham           (H)
14 Aston Villa         (A)

CL 1999
**DYNAMO KIEV      2 v 0  REAL MADRID         (Agg:3-1)
OLYMPIAKOS         1 v 1  **JUVENTUS          (Agg:2-3)

Semi Finals 
Manchester United v Juventus  4-3agg 3-2 [1-1]
Bayern Munchen v Dynamo Kiev  4-3agg 1-0 [3-3]

Venue Camp Nou (Estadi FC Barcelona), Barcelona, Spain 
Date Wednesday 26 May 1999 Kick-Off 20.45 CET (19.45 GMT) 

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Subject: Memories of Barcelona I knew as soon as Cole put the third one in in Turin that I had to go. We had just produced one of the great performances of the nineties and the spirit was in us. Keane and Scholes out, Bayern big, rested and strong, me 8,000 miles from Spain - didn't matter. I don't know whether other fans feel this way, but the Cup seemed to be our destiny. Maybe that is the willpower of Ferguson and Keane and the Jaapster reaching out to the fans. I persuaded two friends Matt and Svenn, mancs living in London and Amsterdam, that we had to go, even though they were both broke. Tickets were an embarrassingly expensive 550 quid - should have waited till Spain. Oh well. I booked a flight from Taipei to Barca, took a week off work, and started to relish the prospect. I arrived on the Sunday before the game and watched the city fill up. Barcelona was beautiful, and the Catalans were pretty good-humoured considering they had 100,000 anglo-saxons arriving to get shitfaced. There were loads of good bars and places to eat. Omelettes and coffee on the Placa Reial every morning felt like the beginnig of a carnival. The mood was rising by the day until on the Wednesday the Ramblas was a sea of drunk, happy reds. I can still remember the fountain near the bottom that was three deep all the way to the top. But where were the Germans? In the Nou Camp, it seems. They had either been staying in another part of town or had arrived on the day of the match in a typical no-nonense gesture. About an hour before the game all the Bayern fans were there. Credit to them, they sang for their team. When the players were being announced, the commentator gave only his number and his first name. There was a one second pause and then the whole Bayern roared out his surname in unison. So it went "Number five, Sammy..." (pause) "KUFFOUR!" etc. I hadn't seen that before and was impressed. Reds gradually filtered in and by kick off we had about two thirds of the ground. The game itself...well, Blonqvist, Neville and Johnsen were pooh, Yorke was marked out of the game by Kuffour (buy him Alex), Giggs was OK out of position, and only Beckham really excelled. But no matter. Cut to the 89th minute. I've got my head in my hands and for the first time I'm beginning to think it's over. "It's not happening mate. It's not happening." Then Peter the Great imposes himself on the Bayern defence and Teddy knocks it in. Pandemonium, and we're sure we'll beat them in extra time out of sheer desire. What happened next was literally beyond my wildest hopes, and it's not often that reality outstrips your dreams. When Solskjaer volleyed it in there were a few seconds where I felt as though I had dropped through a hole to another dimension. Unreal mayhem, joy, disbelief. Too good to be true. Was it really true? The whistle seemed to go about ten seconds later. I've since thought about giving up Utd and football altogether as it will never get better than that moment. Won't really be doing that, but May 26th 1999 will never be forgotten by me or anyone who saw it. Oh yeah, on the way back to the Ramblas we saw the Bayern coach, and treated the players to a glimpse of our United scarves and middle fingers. - Chris Francis, Taipei -- ======================== MBL Taiwan Phone:886-2-2832-9373 Fax:886-2-2835-7585 Web Site:www.mblasia.com www.nfor.com ========================
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Subject: UNITED FACE 77-MATCH MARATHON By David Anderson, PA Sport Manchester United could end up playing an incredible 77 games next season. That is the staggering number of matches they face if they go all the way in the knock-out competitions and play the maximum four replays in the FA Cup. Even if United fall at the first hurdle in the cups, they would still play a minimum of 51 matches. They played 62 matches during last season's historic Treble-winning campaign and the increase in games is largely due to the expanded Champions' League. Last season United played 13 European games, but they face 17 if they are to reach next season's final. Then there is the World Team Championship between January 5-14 and if United participate that could add four more games to their hectic schedule. And don't forget the one-off European Super Cup against Lazio in Monaco on August 27 and the Toyota Cup against Palmeiras in Tokyo on November 30. The Premiership fixtures for next season were released and already United must rearrange their home game against Newcastle on August 28 because it clashes with the European Super Cup. United chairman and chief executive Martin Edwards admitted the huge number of games was a worry. ``Anyone can see the problems for themselves by just looking at the fixtures,'' he said. ``You can see that it does require quite a bit of thought to plan it all out. There is an early start on August 7 because the season has been brought forward to ease fixture congestion caused by the increased number of European matches that have to be played. ``We've gone from playing 11 matches to win the Champions' League - although we played 13 last season because of the preliminary round _ to 17. That's six more matches that have to be fitted in and that causes great difficulty. ``If we go to Brazil that is another four games, plus the European Super Cup and the World Club Championship in Tokyo. ``There's another six matches which together with the Champions' League makes 23 games before even considering the domestic programme. So something has got to give.'' Even UEFA general secretary Gerhard Aigner is concerned about the extra demands the enlarged Champions' League will place on players. When he visited Old Trafford last season he said: ``There is a lot of pressure on the players and we're asking them to play even more matches. ``That is our biggest concern and we can only say that the teams who will go the full programme will be very limited in number because most teams will play only 12 matches. ``Those who are successful will take the burden and play more matches and this is a concern for us, especially when we talk about England with 20 teams in the Premier League. ``That makes 38 matches, whereas in normal leagues in Europe they have 18 teams which makes 34 games.'' This is the backdrop to United's talks with the Football Association, Government and Premier League over their participation in the World Team Championship. United would have to rearrange their league games against Middlesbrough at home on January 3 and Leeds away 12 days later if they go to Brazil. They might also have to find new dates for the Worthington Cup semi-final and the FA Cup fourth round if they are still involved in those competitions. The start of the new season may be six weeks away, but already United clearly have plenty to ponder. United's worst case fixture scenario for 1999-2000 Premier League: 38 matches; FA Cup: 10 matches; Worthington Cup: 6 matches; Champions' League: 17 matches; World Team Championship: 4 matches; European Super Cup: 1 match; Toyota Cup: 1 match. Total: 77 matches. United's games in 1998-99: Premier League: 38 matches; FA Cup: 8 matches; Worthington Cup: 3 matches; Champions' League: 13 matches. Total: 62 matches. PA Sporting Life
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Subject: Best guess at Champions League lineup by Mark Roberts I have been studying UEFA's qualifying arrangements for this coming season and using a complex system called "guessing" I have tried to work out which teams will come through the qualifying phases of the European Cup. Here are my estimations of the teams entering the Champions League this year who I have seeded into groups that the draw might be made from. The seedings are just my humble opinion of course. Seeding Group 1 Manchester United Eng Lazio Ita Bayern Munich Ger Barcelona Spa Bordeaux Fra Fiorentina Ita Real Madrid Spa Parma Ita Seeding Group 2 AC Milan Ita Bayer 04 Leverkusen Ger Dynamo Kiev Ukr Marseilles Fra Arsenal Eng Feyenoord Ned Porto Por Borussia Dortmund Ger Seeding Group 3 Willem II Ned Boavista Por Hertha BSC Berlin Ger Real Mallorca Spa Valencia Spa Lyon Fra PSV Eindhoven Ned Chelsea Eng Seeding Group 4 Rangers Sco Molde Nor Olympiakos Gre Sparta Prague Cze Rosenborg Nor AEK Athens Gre Croatia Zagreb Cro Aalborg Den This would give a best case scenario group for us of Manchester United Marseilles - watch out for the bribes though!! Real Mallorca - Already scouted out by the likes of the Sausageman Aalborg - get the beers in and turn that music up Mr Leeming!! Worst case trip scenario would be Manchester United Arsenal Chelsea Rangers However I don't know if UEFA allow teams from the same country to be in the same group so if they don't then the worst case would be Manchester United Dynamo Kiev Willem II Croatia Zagreb But then of course it's far too early to get into this sort of nonsense isn't it. Hypothetically yours Mark Roberts
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Subject: Duncan Edwards now Updated : more pics + splendid articles ALL Duncan images updated. Thanks to pete hargeaves and Paul Windridge: Click on index: http://www.red11.org/mufc/images/player/edwardsd/ 221656 Jun 21 12:12 1957_autographs.jpg 31343 Jun 21 12:11 1957_autographs_tin.jpg 39576 Jun 22 07:48 dunc0.jpg 122349 Jun 22 07:49 dunc1.jpg 144636 Jun 22 07:46 dunc2.jpg 6583 Jun 20 12:34 dunc3.jpg 137990 Jun 22 07:47 dunc4.jpg 80519 Jun 22 07:47 dunc5.jpg 197932 Jun 24 08:52 dunc57cupfinal.jpg 20635 Jun 22 07:47 dunc6.jpg 99703 Jun 22 07:47 dunc7.jpg 104274 Jun 22 07:49 dunc8.jpg 27128 Jun 22 07:48 dunc9.jpg 32305 Jun 20 12:31 duncan1.jpg 60671 Jun 20 22:07 duncan_shrine.jpg 137423 Jun 24 08:52 duncautograph.jpg 91671 Jun 24 08:51 duncclaytonwright.jpg 199586 Jun 24 08:51 duncfootballmonth.jpg 144477 Jun 24 08:50 dunckick.jpg 95036 Jun 24 08:50 duncnote.jpg 140381 Jun 24 08:50 duncthrowin.jpg 7019 Jun 20 12:30 dunctommy.gif 13574 Jun 20 12:37 edwards.jpg 2005 Jun 20 12:35 edwardsdtin.jpg 4397 Jun 20 12:37 edwardsport.jpg ------------------------------------------------- Personal Article "Duncan Edwards" by Pete Hargreaves: Duncan Edwards was the greatest footballer I have ever seen, but then you'll all have heard that before from boring old farts like myself. What you don't know, of course, is whether I'm of the 'the old days were best' brigade or whether I really do happen to believe what I've said about Duncan. Let me tell you that I have a recording of a television programme about Bobby Charlton and no less a man than Bobby said of Duncan, and I quote, "People ask me what Duncan Edwards was like and I tell them that he was the best player I ever saw, and they say "he couldn't have been that good"......... but he was". I was only a young boy when Duncan Edwards died. It IS altogether possible that time and his death have shaped my view and if that is the case then I make no apologies, for he was truly a very great man and footballer. I remember Duncan best from the training ground which was very close to where my gran lived, and somewhere we went every day in the summer holidays in the hope of seeing our idols. He was ALWAYS laughing and messing about. He would pick up the little lads and chuck them about (in a playful, friendly sense, obviously) and ruffle your hair. That was nice for a young boy. He and Tommy Taylor were always together. That is my overriding memory - of Tommy and Duncan, two absolutely huge men (well at least to a young boy), but both as gentle as anyone could be. Duncan Edwards was a very big man, his nickname was 'The Tank'; it was not without some foundation. From a distance he did not look like a natural athlete as he looked ever so slightly overweight, but once he began to move there could be no doubting his athleticism. He had legs like Mark Hughes in that they seemed to be as thick at the ankle as they were at his thigh. Positionally Duncan would (in modern terms) be considered a midfield player. However I have always considered that he, like John Charles before him, was really anything that his team required at any given moment - be it defender or attacker. Perhaps Robson comes closest in that respect but, and with all due respect to Bryan, a player for whom I had the greatest respect, Bryan was a short-ball passer. It was rare to see him hit a fifty-yarder. Duncan, on the other hand, could pass long or short. His long ball passing was, without doubt, the equal of Charlton or Giles (two of the best). I know this might sound daft but Duncan took all the corners and all the throw-ins. Like Eric Cantona (albeit in a different way) everything seemed to revolve around him. But imagine a BIG man (say May or Stam) taking corners, it's a daft idea, but Duncan was the best man for the job. Very soon after the crash happened they started to give out the names of those who had died and those who had survived. OBVIOUSLY Duncan had survived. It would take more than a plane crash to end Duncan's life. Then we began to get news that he wasn't getting better, unlike most of the others. And after what seemed like a lifetime (it was agony waiting every day) he died. I was so sad, I'm still so sad. In a way it was easier to take the news about Roger, who was my absolute idol, than to have to wait to hear about Duncan. Nearly forty years after the crash and it still affects me so badly - I will never recover. I do not believe that we will ever see his like again. He truly was 'simply the best'. Copyright 1999 Peter Hargreaves. All rights reserved. Not to be reproduced without permission of the author. http://www.red11.org/mufc/edwards.htm
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Subject: UNITED FACE EVERTON IN OPENER Manchester United will open the defence of their FA Carling Premiership title at Everton on Saturday August 7. Alex Ferguson's Treble winners were handed a trip to Goodison when the computer came up with the fixtures for the 1999-2000 season. Meanwhile to please Arsene Wenger, still in a sulk after last season, Arsenal, Double winners in 1998 and pipped to the title by United last year, face Leicester City at Highbury. David O'Leary's Leeds United, fancied by many to put in a big title challenge, will play host to Derby County at Elland Road. Sheep Trials will precede the kick-off. And Gerard Houllier's new-look but still Big-Time Charlie led Liverpool will travel over the Pennines to face Sheffield Wednesday at Hillsborough. Wednesday will be putting in a stiff challenge once again to claim some silverware, ie the Fair Play League. Newcastle have a cracking opener against Aston Villa at St James' Park. The cracks in the Barcodes defence will be evident right from the start, whilst Villa will be hoping to shake off their image as a home for convalescent alcaholic and workshy passengers. And West Ham host Spurs in a London derby at Upton Park. Neil Ruddock will be all out to be Red-carded against one of his old clubs, but Ian Wright may well beat him to the punch. Newly-promoted Bradford City will play their first-ever Premiership match at Middlesbrough. This showcases rejuvenated drug-addled Lee Sharpe against resolute pivot and Junk-food addict Gary Pallister. And the other promoted clubs have tough openers too, with Sunderland travelling to the capital to meet Chelsea and Graham Taylor's Watford welcoming Wimbledon to Vicarage Road. The Wearside Army will be in force to frighten the children around Stamford Bridge, whilst the 'Turnip' will plotting to outwit the new Norweigan influence at Wimbledon, and their cunning tactics brought by manager Egil Olsen, namely boot it long and chase it. Coventry City will play host to Southampton at Highfield Road. A crowd of up to 15,000 will be dozing through this one, and Match Of The Day will probably show about 25 minutes of it. Looking further ahead Manchester United face a crunch clash with Leeds on the forecourt at Old Trafford on August 14, and a trip to Highbury to meet Arsenal on August 21.
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Subject: Man Utd. appoint Cape crusaders Manchester United have appointed Cape Town-based club FC Fortune as the South African arm of their ever-expanding worldwide scouting network. FC Fortune will look out for talented youngsters in the south of Africa while United will offer technical assistance and arrange for trials in Europe. United's South African expert Frank Lord will act as the go-between to bring the most talented players over and place some with Royal Antwerp. Antwerp were the first club to sign a 'memorandum of co-operation' with United back in October before the club established further global links in Scandanavia, Australia, Africa and Argentina. The Reds are now looking to finalise agreements with Adelaide Sharks plus clubs in Ireland and Buenos Aires. Alex Ferguson returns from holiday later this week but praised the deal in a pre-prepared press statement. He said: "We believe this link will give us entry to a rich seam of African football talent. "It will help us find players to follow our youth academy's best products." United's network now extends to Belgium (Royal Antwerp), Sweden (IFK Gothenburg) and South Africa (FC Fortune) while other deals are in the pipeline.
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Subject: Fixtures analysis From: Oded Regev Well,the first thing i check in the fixture list is not where we start,it's where we finish.There are 3 grounds you don't want to end up on the last day of the season-West Ham,Leeds,Liverpool.The latter are impossible i think(there are never big matches on the last day of the season.In 1980 when we lost the title at Leeds they were crap) but West Ham on the last day is possible as we found out to our cost in 1995. On any other ground we can win, although our record at Villa Park is better in the cup semis than in the league.Interestingly we could win the title at home to Spurs again,but knowing our usual fixture congestion and the annoying(!) habbit of chasing at least 2 trophies we'll probably have another fixture between Spurs and Villa. Could someone also state the Fa Cup dates and also the Worthless Cup Final date.I'd like to know which fixtures could be put back(I'm not worried about reaching the Worthless Cup Final,but our opponents could). All in all it's a brilliant fixture list with all the big games not coming at the end of the season,unlike 1997 for example.But then again with all the postponements we could end up at Anfield in May again.I'm surprised the premiership hasn't put the big fixtures at the end of the season for neutral excitement. Actually with United usually better against the big clubs it's perhaps not so good that we have "easy" games at the end of the season.And George Graham could bring a stiffer and better Spurs to Old Trafford this time around.I also don't fancy the fact the home game against Chelsea is so late.We haven't won that since 1993,before that 1987/1988(great McClair goal) and before that the 60s! But at the end of the day its' not the fixtures which decide the title(see 1997 again) it's the team.I for one plan to stay on a high at least until January.The 1st half of the season is all about staying in touch.It's actually better if we don't top the league. Each time we have had a blistering start we've lost the lead-forgetting the Atkinson 1985/1986 disaster(10 straight wins,15 unbeaten and only 4th in the end)under Fergie we've lost the title in 1992 and 1998 after great starts and in 1994 we also lost a 16 point lead over Blackburn(albeit with 3 games in hand to them) before recovering to win the league. In short-the first half of the season i'll just be enjoying the football.From January the pressure cooker begins!Another question-have you got the European dates? Bye for now! (-)Oded Regev, Haifa,Israel.
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