www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Thurs Oct 21 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. MEN Report Marseille 1 Manchester United 0
2. MISERY IN MARSEILLE FOR UNITED
3. CROATIA OFFERS NO PLEASURE TRIP FOR UNITED
4. Going out?? Personal Comment by Paul
5. Under-19/Under-17 Report SEVENTH HEAVEN
6. ALL ECL GROUPS - all results/fixtures
7. CROATIA OFFERS NO PLEASURE TRIP FOR UNITED
8. Beckham and Keane battle for Euro crown ««
9. We got it wrong admits Neville
10. EDWARDS PROPOSES RADICAL CHANGES
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MANCHESTER UNITED DAILY NEWS Thursday 21st Oct 1999:
Barry Comment:
More reports on Marseille today + personal and player comment.
ECL Group D ** Manchester United **
Olympique de Marseille * NK Croatia Zagreb * SK Sturm Graz
Manchester United FC Champions League Squad List
1 Mark John Bosnich 2 Gary Alexander Neville 3 Dennis Joseph Irwin
4 David May 6 Jakob Stam 7 David Robert J Beckham
8 Nicholas Butt 9 Andrew Alex. Cole 10 Edward Sheringham
11 Ryan Joseph Giggs 12 Philip Neville 14 Johan Jordi Cruyff
15 Lars Jesper Blomqvist 16 Roy Keane 17 Raimond RJH Van der Gouw
18 Paul Scholes 19 Dwight Yorke 20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 Henning Berg 23 Michael Jamie Clegg 25 José Quinton Fortune
26 Massimo Taibi 31 Nicholas James Culkin 33 Mark Antony Wilson
34 Jonathan Greening
Group D P W D L F A PTS
Marseille 4 3 0 1 6 3 9
Manchester Utd 4 2 1 1 5 2 7
Croatia Zagreb 4 1 1 2 4 3 4
SK Sturm Graz 4 1 0 3 1 8 3
Fixtures/results
Tue Sep 14 Manchester United 0-0 Croatia Zagreb
Tue Sep 14 Marseille 2-0 SK Sturm Graz
Wed Sep 22 Croatia Zagreb 1-2 Marseille
Wed Sep 22 SK Sturm Graz 0-3 Manchester United
Wed Sep 29 Manchester United 2-1 Marseille
Wed Sep 29 Croatia Zagreb 3-0 SK Sturm Graz
Tue Oct 19 Marseille 1-0 Manchester United
Tue Oct 19 SK Sturm Graz 1-0 Croatia Zagreb
Wed Oct 27 7:45 NK Croatia v Man Utd
Wed Oct 27 7:45 Sturm Graz v Marseille
Tue Nov 2 7:45 Manchester United v SK Sturm Graz
Tue Nov 2 7:45 Marseille v Croatia Zagreb
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Mark Bosnich's Personal Details
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BSKYB Takeover news/pics at http://www.red11.org/mufc/bskyb.htm
Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
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Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!
http://www.red11.org/mufc/news/schmeichel.htm
*** FIXTURES ON 23/10/99 ***
Aston Villa v Wimbledon
Bradford City v Leicester City
Chelsea v Arsenal
Sheffield Wednesday v Coventry City
Southampton v Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United
*** FIXTURES ON 24/10/99 ***
Everton v Leeds United
Watford v Middlesbrough
West Ham United v Sunderland
*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 17/10/99 ***
Middlesbrough 2-0 West Ham United 31,862
*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 18/10/99 ***
Sunderland 2-1 Aston Villa 41,045
*** CONDENSED LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 18/10/99 ***
Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
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1 Leeds United 11 8 1 2 21 12 9 25
2 Manchester United 11 7 3 1 27 16 11 24
3 Sunderland 11 7 2 2 20 9 11 23
4 Arsenal 11 7 1 3 17 10 7 22
5 Leicester City 11 6 2 3 19 14 5 20
6 Chelsea 9 6 1 2 15 4 11 19
7 Everton 11 5 2 4 17 14 3 17
8 Tottenham Hotspur 10 5 2 3 17 14 3 17
9 Aston Villa 11 5 2 4 12 11 1 17
10 West Ham United 9 5 1 3 11 8 3 16
11 Middlesbrough 11 5 0 6 13 15 -2 15
12 Liverpool 10 4 2 4 11 10 1 14
13 Coventry City 11 3 3 5 16 15 1 12
14 Southampton 10 3 2 5 17 21 -4 11
15 Wimbledon 11 2 5 4 17 25 -8 11
16 Watford 11 3 0 8 7 15 -8 9
17 Derby County 11 2 3 6 10 19 -9 9
18 Bradford City 10 2 2 6 6 16 -10 8
19 Newcastle United 11 2 1 8 21 27 -6 7
20 Sheffield Wednesday 11 1 1 9 8 27 -19 4
NEXT MATCHES
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23-OCT-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Spurs (FA Premier League, AWAY)
27-OCT-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs NK Croatia (UEFA Champions League, AWAY)
30-OCT-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Aston Villa (FA Premier League, HOME)
02-NOV-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Sturm Graz (UEFA Champions League, HOME)
The line-up for the testimonial game is:
Eric Cantona Peter Schmeichel
Zinedine Zidane Gabriel Batistuta
Paul Gascoigne Juninho
George Weah Alessandro Costacurta
Christian Ziege Lillian Thuram
Roberto Mancini John Collins
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED -
UNITED Stats v All teams:
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ALL FIXTURES at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix992000.htm
First Team Fixtures 1999/2000
All dates/times subject to change
Dates of possible cup ties also shown
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/07/99 Melbourne Australia pre-season W 2-0 - 60,000
18/07/99 Sydney Australia pre-season W 1-0 - 78,000
21/07/99 Shanghai Shenhua pre-season W 2-0 - 80,000
24/07/99 Hong Kong South China pre-season W 2-0 - 40,000
1/08/99 Arsenal Wembley Charity Shield L 1-2 - 70,185
3/08/99 Omagh Town Omagh Bomb Fund W 9-0 - 7,000
4/08/99 Wigan Athletic friendly W 2-0 - 15,000
08/08/99 Everton Away PL D 1-1 10 39,141
11/08/99 Sheffield Wednesday Home PL W 4-0 3 54,941
14/08/99 Leeds United Home PL W 2-0 1 55,187
22/08/99 Arsenal Away PL W 2-1 1 38,147
25/08/99 Coventry City Away PL W 2-1 1 22,024
27/08/99 Monaco - Lazio ESC L 0-1 - 15,223
30/08/99 Newcastle United Home W 5-1 1 55,190
11/09/99 Liverpool Away W 3-2 1 44,929
14/09/99 Croatia Zagreb Home EC D 0-0 - 53,250
18/09/99 Wimbledon Home D 1-1 1 55,189
22/09/99 Sturm Graz Away EC W 3-0 - 16,480
25/09/99 Southampton Home D 3-3 1 55,249
29/09/99 Marseille Home EC W 2-1 - 54,276
3/10/99 Chelsea Away PL L 0-5 2 34,909
11/10/99 Sir Alex testimonial Home F L 2-4 [RED LEGENDS]
13/10/99 Aston Villa Away WC3 L 0-3 - 33,815
16/10/99 Watford Home PL W 4-1 2 55,188
19/10/99 Marseille Away EC L 0-1 - ?
23/10/99 Tottenham Hotspur Away PL 15.00
27/10/99 Croatia Zagreb Away EC 19.45
30/10/99 Aston Villa home PL 15.00
2/11/99 Sturm Graz Home EC 19.45
6/11/99 Leicester City Home PL 15.00
20/11/99 Derby County Away PL 15.00
24/11/99 ? EC
27/11/99 Sheffield Wednesday Away PL 15.00
30/11/99 Tokyo Palmeiras WCC 20.00
4/12/99 Everton Home PL 15.00
8/12/99 ? EC
18/12/99 West Ham United Away PL 15.00
26/12/99 Bradford City Home PL 15.00
28/12/99 Sunderland Away PL 20.00 "live on sky"
3/01/2000 Middlesborough Home PL 20.00
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JAN 05-14 Brazil WTC [3-4 games]
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06/01/2000 Necaxa (Mexico) Neut WTC 16.00
08/01/2000 Vasco da Gama (Brazil) Away WTC 16.00
11/01/2000 South Melbourne (Australia) N WTC 16.00
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22/01/2000 Arsenal Home PL 15.00
5/02/2000 Coventry City Home PL 15.00
12/02/2000 Newcastle United Away PL 15.00
26/02/2000 Wimbledon Away PL 15.00
1/03/2000 ? EC
4/03/2000 Liverpool Home PL 15.00
8/03/2000 ? EC
11/03/2000 Derby County Home PL 15.00
15/03/2000 ? EC
18/03/2000 Leicester City Away PL 15.00
22/03/2000 ? EC
25/03/2000 Bradford City Away PL 15.00
1/04/2000 West Ham United Home PL 15.00
5/04/2000 ? EC qf i
8/04/2000 Middlesborough Away PL 15.00
15/04/2000 Sunderland Home PL 15.00
19/04/2000 ? EC qf ii
22/04/2000 Southampton Away PL 15.00
24/04/2000 Chelsea Home PL 15.00
29/04/2000 West Ham United Away PL 15.00
3/05/2000 ? EC sf i
6/05/2000 Tottenham Hotspur Home PL 15.00
10/05/2000 ? EC sf ii
14/05/2000 Aston Villa Away PL 15.00
24/05/2000 ? EC Final
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Subject: MEN Report Marseille 1 Manchester United 0
By Stuart Mathieson
DENIS Law and Ajax should have handed over their European records to
Manchester United's history-makers last night.
But the masochistic Reds just can't seem to resist the pain of doing things
the hard way.
Let's face it, with two tickets available to the next group stage the
Champions' League holders shouldn't really be going to Zagreb next week still fighting for
the lives.
Old Trafford legend Law knows his three-decade European Cup record of 14
goals for United in the competition is on borrowed time.
You wouldn't think it likely it will last into the Millennium under
normal circumstances before it becomes Andy Cole's property. Cole is so
electric at present that United in normal mode would probably have served
up the chances for him to depose the King last night in France.
Instead, through no fault of his own, Cole spent an evening of total
frustration in the Stade Velodrome.
Ajax, meanwhile, have been given a huge reprieve as United's efforts to equal
their 19-match unbeaten sequence in the elite tournament floundered
miserably as they suffered the long forgotten taste of Champions' League defeat.
United gave a hint of the destruction they could have caused Marseille in a
typically frenzied late assault. But it was only a fleeting illusion and as
the French kept a grip on their prized victory, Ajax held onto their proud record from
1994-96.
Despite Marseille's renaissance in the competition since the triumph and
traumas of the early 90s - which saw the halcyon days of Waddle, Papin, Boksic,
Desailly and Deschamps turn into the nightmare and shame of the Bernard Tapie bribery
scandal - the re-emerging French outfit couldn't, in truth, have lived with
United in top gear.
A year ago United were scaring the pants off Europe as they stormed away with
16 goals in their opening four group matches. Twelve months ago today they
were annihilating Brondby 6-2 in Copenhagen.
In that four-game Euro blitz last autumn Cole chipped away at Law's record
with two strikes and the continent lived in fear of the rampant Reds.
But they can't rediscover the killer touch in Europe and that 16-goal haul has
dwindled to just five including two blank nights and while the mangle they put
everyone through last season was nonetheless compulsive excitement, this
time it is just frustrating torture as United continue to find difficulty coming to
terms with the increased value on their scalp.
Both the Reds and their French opponents had sparred to little effect in the
opening half hour in an expectant Velodrome.
Marseille captain Robert Pires then started to stamp his influence on the
match with Fabrizio Ravanelli also playing a dangerous supporting role.
After 30 minutes Pires sliced his way through United's midfield and back four
courtesy of an intelligent wall pass from Ravanelli.
This was Mark Bosnich's first Champions' League moment of truth and he
answered the challenge confidently as Pires fired in a shot which the
Australian palmed superbly over the bar.
Three minutes later the increasing penetration of Pires surfaced again as he
pierced United's ranks with ease to burst through on goal. This time Bosnich
wasn't needed as Phil Neville recovered splendidly to nudge the ball back
to his number one and the Aussie hacked clear.
After 39 minutes it was Pires and Ravanelli again who teamed up to cut another
swathe through the Reds. Henning Berg, though, was stationed perfectly to cut
out the danger.
United were up against it as the Velodrome rose to their side's positive
spell and after a Ravanelli free kick sped just wide the match turned ugly. The
flashpoint was sparked right on half time by a two-footed Scholes lunge on Luccin. Not
surprisingly the Frenchman's colleagues piled in to exact their revenge on the
Reds midfielder.
United weren't slow to protect their man and Andy Cole, in particular,
needed to be extricated swiftly from the melee by Beckham in a successful bid to avoid
being reduced to 10-men.
United had their first major chance of the match five minutes after the
interval when Keane powered away from his midfield duties to take advantage of
Marseille's preoccupation with Yorke and Cole. He took a pass from the latter
and drilled a low shot just wide of Porato's goal. But it was a rare moment of
concern for the Velodrome who sensed a famous victory could be in the offing.
The hugely inspirational Pires-Ravanelli combination troubled United
further after 54 minutes. Dalmat picked out his skipper's run into United's box. Irwin came
swiftly to stall Pires but couldn't halt the pass to the Italian.
Fortunately, for the Reds the ball arrived slightly behind Ravanelli and he
couldn't get a clean hit on the close range effort but dug out a shot which Bosnich
dealt with comfortably.
United had been undone so many time by Marseille's penetrative one-twos
that it was scarcely a huge surprise when one finally succeeded. The big shock,
however, was that the previous exponents of the wall pass art Pires and
Ravanelli weren't involved.
Amazingly it was big defender Gallas who decided to chance his arm and
split the Reds open when he took a return from Dalmat. It took him easily into space
behind United's defence and Bosnich was like a lamb to the slaughter as Gallas
drove a ferocious shot beyond him.
The first defeat since December '97 was now staring the Reds in the face.
Whilst preparing his team for the visit of United, Marseille coach Rolland
Courbis had halted a video re-run of the Old Trafford game after 75 minutes with
his side leading 1-0.
How he must have wished he could have used the remote on this one as United
finally showed some attacking life with 13 minutes to go.
Giggs picked up the gauntlet for his most effective spell of the match.
First his lightning speed took him by Berizzo but with his cross heading for lurking
Cole goalscorer Gallas instinctively stuck a foot out to divert the ball into
his 'keeper's grateful hands.
Giggs then couldn't be held by Perez but his forward colleagues had reacted
too quickly and were caught offside.
There was the inevitable frantic finale as the nervous French defended for
their lives at times as United staged another comeback attempt.
The Reds almost pulled it off with a Solskjaer salvage job ruled offside
when he headed home from Beckham's overtime free kick. A host of red shirts looked to
have been caught in Marseille's swift offside trap. It all happened in a
blur and it took TV to show that the Norwegian had legitimately rescued United but the
evidence came too late and it was debatable if United deserved it.
Marseille probably hasn't celebrated with such gusto since their glory
night in Munich in '93 when they beat AC Milan to win the European Cup.
SHOTS ON: Marseille 3, United 3. SHOTS OFF: Marseille 8, United 1
GOALS: Gallas (69) for Marseille
BOOKINGS: Scholes, Yorke and Beckham for United. Pires for Marseille.
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Subject: MISERY IN MARSEILLE FOR UNITED
Manchester United's defence of their Champions League crown has become
bogged down after a 1-0 defeat on Marseille's quagmire of a pitch.
United never masterminded the heavy conditions at the Stade Velodrome on a
surface which looked more like a potato field than a football pitch.
Marseille coped better and William Gallas scored in the 69th minute to earn
them a deserved victory.
The defeat ended United's 18-match unbeaten run in the Champions League,
but more importantly it also casts some doubt over their progression to the
second phase.
Marseille have now replaced United as Group D leaders on nine points and
their trip to Croatia Zagreb next Wednesday has become even more significant.
United still have a three-point advantage over their chief qualifying
rivals and should still progress, but manager Sir Alex Ferguson will not
appreciate this extra uncertainty and pressure on his players.
The pitch had been so bad that the match had almost been called off earlier
in the day.
However the heavy downpours which had lashed the Mediterranean city held
off and the game went ahead, although Ferguson was clearly not impressed
with the surface when he inspected it.
He was worried that the heavy pitch would aggravate Andy Cole's hamstring
niggle, but despite this concern the striker, who needs one goal to equal
Denis Law's club record of 14 goals in the European Cup, started.
The Marseille fans in the sell-out 58,000 crowd gave United a hostile
welcome and they held up a sick banner making fun of the Munich air crash,
while another questioned David Beckham's sexuality.
Marseille coach Rolland Courbis reshuffled his hand from the side he
fielded three weeks ago in the 2-1 defeat at Old Trafford and Fabrizio
Ravanelli was deployed as a lone striker, with Robert Pires supporting him
from midfield.
Marseille's massed ranks in midfield were running the show and Roy Keane
and Paul Scholes could not exert any influence.
Dwight Yorke and Cole were winning free-kicks in dangerous positions
outside the Marseille box and David Beckham tried his luck from one 30
yards out only for Stephane Porato to save comfortably.
Marseille still looked the more likely to score and in the 31st minute they
almost did through some great play by Pires.
He slipped the ball to Ravanelli who returned it into the right channel for
him to run on to and unleash a drive, which Mark Bosnich parried away for a
corner.
The home side were getting closer to the breakthrough and Ravanelli curled
a 30-yard free-kick agonisingly wide of Bosnich's left-hand post on 40
minutes.
Tempers flared just before half-time when Scholes was booked for a
two-footed lunge at Peter Luccin near the halfway line.
Sebastien Perez was also cautioned after he shoved Scholes, while Ravanelli
escaped punishment after he pushed the United midfielder.
United went close with a neat passing move when Cole laid Ryan Giggs' ball
off into the path of Keane, who was running through on the left, and he
shot across goal and just wide of the far post.
Denis Irwin, who was making a club record 37th Champions League appearance,
inadvertently knocked the ball straight to Ravanelli from a tackle, but
Bosnich smothered the Italian's close-range shot.
United still could not gain control of the midfield and Giggs kept coming
infield because of the cut-up pitch to limit their options down the left.
Fortunately for United Jaap Stam was in total control at the back and he
was having another outstanding performance.
As the game went on the pitch deteriorated yet further and with it the
standard of the play.
Marseille were coping better with the conditions than United and in the
69th minute the hosts made the decisive breakthrough when Gallas played a
one-two with Dalmat before slotting the ball home right-footed past Bosnich.
United tried to step up a gear and they appealed in vain for an indirect
free-kick for a backpass after Gallas knocked Giggs' cross into the arms of
Porato.
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Dalmat went close to a second for Marseille when he shot narrowly wide
after breaking down the right.
United went for broke and brought on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer for Henning Berg,
but still they could not find an equaliser.
Instead things went from bad to worse as Beckham was booked for the second
time in the competition for fouling Pires to leave him just one caution
away from suspension.
In stoppage time substitute Loris Reina almost added to United's agony with
a shot which brushed the foot of the post.
However Gallas' goal has inflicted enough damage on them.
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Subject: CROATIA OFFERS NO PLEASURE TRIP FOR UNITED
Suddenly Manchester United's jaunt to Croatia Zagreb next week has become
less of a formality.
Sir Alex Ferguson had hoped the pressure would be off his Treble winners
going into the Champions League clash with Ossie Ardiles' side.
His master plan was that United would have taken at least a point off
Marseille last night and with three points virtually guaranteed against
Sturm Graz in their final game, his side could collect the magic total of
11 to qualify regardless of what happens in Croatia.
It has not quite worked out that way and instead United trail Group D
leaders Marseille by two points following their surprise 1-0 defeat on the
Stade Velodrome's paddy-field.
Ferguson had not been banking on divine intervention helping United, but
the gods were certainly smiling on them last night.
While his side were losing to Marseille, Sturm Graz somehow managed to beat
Zagreb to maintain United's three-point cushion over the Croatian champions.
United should still qualify, but another reverse in Zagreb could hole
United's qualification hopes below the waterline.
Skipper Roy Keane has no doubts what they need to do on Wednesday - win.
"Now we've got to go to Zagreb and get a better result, like a win," he said.
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Subject: Going out?? Personal Comment by Paul
Well, back to the old days it seems of not playing to our strengths away
from home. It was quite obvious after Marseille had scored that if we had
bothered to attack from the start then we would have probably beaten them
quite easily. Why sit back? We didn't do it in Barcelona, Munich or Turin,
because if we had they would have taken us apart, so why do it against a
team who IMHO would struggle in the premier league. This, remember, is the
side who could only manage 1 shot at Old Trafford. Now, we find ourselves in
the position of fighting for second place. To put it simply, if we lose next
Wednesday, all Zagreb have to do is to beat a Marseille team who will have
nothing to play for to go through themselves. I bet Edwards will be
scrambling for his FA Cup entry form then as the pound signs start
disappearing before his eyes.
Besides, even if we do get through now, I assume the top teams are seeded
above the 2nd placed teams??
Anyway, it was only made worse by the coverage on OnDigital. Some dickhead
had the clever idea of having Ian St John as co-commentator, someone I have
grown to despise and who obviously revels in United defeats. Not to mention
slagging off Giggsy as disgraceful at one point for stubbing his cross, he
went on to see how many times he could put the words David Beckham and
petulance into the same sentence. What a w**ker!!!
On another note, I turned over to watch a few minutes of Barcelona v Arsenal
at half time and saw more excitement in a few minutes than in the whole
first half in Marseille - it was also in widescreen which I really must say
is glorious for watching football on as you see so much more of the pitch.
Barcelona look pretty formidable, but from what I saw of the penalty they
are still cheating, robbing, scrounging (not that I'm bitter about having my
wallet knicked) b**tards.
Paul
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Subject: Under-19/Under-17 Report SEVENTH HEAVEN
Tuesday, October 19, 1999 12:44
Neil Bailey's lads were keen so keen to extend their
already impressive start to the campaign that they
could barely wait to open the scoring against
Barnsley at Littleton Road.
Slightly more than half a minute of the Under-17
Academy had elapsed when Steven Clegg and Ben
Muirhead combined to set-up the first goal for Gary
Sampson.
If the early strike had the Barnsley youngsters thinking that
there was more to follow then they were absolutely right.
Five minutes on and Muirhead had finished off a
shot-cum-cross from Daniel Nardiello to make it 2-0.
Nardiello made it 3-0 in the 11th minute and shortly
afterwards Barnsley's problems were increased when their
keeper Lee Hawksley was stretchered from the game after
colliding with Marc Whiteman.
Tykes' defender Liam Kay took over in goal and he
managed to keep United at bay until the 34th minute when
his own defender Adam Oldham inadvertently put through
his own-goal.
Whiteman and Nardiello added further goals to give United
a 6-0 lead at the break.
Nardiello completed his hat-trick in the 63rd minute and
Whiteman collected his second of the game moments
later.
Barnsley's miserable day was rounded-off in the final
minute when Chris Humphries, who'd replaced Nardiello
with twenty-odd minutes to go, thumped home United's
ninth goal.
It was also a good day for the Under-19s who had an
encouraging 1-1 draw against Everton at Bellefield. Danny
Webber was United's scorer shortly after the half-time
interval.
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Subject: ALL ECL GROUPS - all results/fixtures
ECL GROUPS
Group A P W D L F A PTS
Lazio 4 3 1 0 11 2 10
B Leverkusen 4 1 2 1 6 6 5
Dynamo Kiev 4 1 1 2 6 6 4
NK Maribor 4 1 0 3 1 10 3
Fixtures/results
Tue Sep 14 Bayer Leverkusen 1-1 Lazio
Tue Sep 14 Dynamo Kiev 0-1 NK Maribor
Wed Sep 22 Maribor 0-2 Bayer Leverkusen
Wed Sep 22 Lazio 2-1 Dynamo Kiev
Wed Sep 29 Bayer Leverkusen 1-1 Dynamo Kiev
Wed Sep 29 Lazio 4-0 NK Maribor
Tue Oct 19 Dynamo Kiev 4-2 Bayer Leverkusen
Tue Oct 19 NK Maribor 0-4 Lazio
Wed Oct 27 7:45 NK Maribor v Dynamo Kiev
Wed Oct 27 7:45 Lazio v Bayer Leverkusen
Tue Nov 2 7:45 Bayer Leverkusen v NK Maribor
Tue Nov 2 7:45 Dynamo Kiev v Lazio
Group B P W D L F A PTS
Barcelona 4 3 1 0 11 6 10
Fiorentina 4 1 2 1 5 4 5
Arsenal 4 1 2 1 6 6 5
AIK Solna 4 0 1 3 2 8 1
Fixtures/results
Tue Sep 14 Fiorentina 0-0 Arsenal
Tue Sep 14 AIK Solna 1-2 Barcelona
Wed Sep 22 Arsenal 3-1 AIK Solna
Wed Sep 22 Barcelona 4-2 Fiorentina
Wed Sep 29 AIK Solna 0-0 Fiorentina
Wed Sep 29 Barcelona 1-1 Arsenal
Tue Oct 19 Fiorentina 3-0 AIK Solna
Tue Oct 19 Arsenal 2-4 Barcelona
Wed Oct 27 7:45 Arsenal v Fiorentina
Wed Oct 27 7:45 Barcelona v AIK Solna
Tue Nov 2 7:45 Fiorentina v Barcelona
Tue Nov 2 7:45 AIK Solna v Arsenal
Group C P W D L F A PTS
Rosenborg 4 2 2 0 10 4 8
B. Dortmund 4 1 2 1 6 7 5
Feyenoord 4 0 4 0 5 5 4
Boavista 4 0 2 2 3 8 2
Fixtures/results
Tue Sep 14 Boavista 0-3 Rosenborg
Tue Sep 14 Feyenoord 1-1 Borussia Dortmund
Wed Sep 22 Borussia Dortmund 3-1 Boavista
Wed Sep 22 Rosenborg 2-2 Feyenoord
Wed Sep 29 Boavista 1-1 Feyenoord
Wed Sep 29 Rosenborg 2-2 Borussia Dortmund
Tue Oct 19 Borussia Dortmund 0-3 Rosenborg
Tue Oct 19 Feyenoord 1-1 Boavista
Tue Oct 27 7:45 Borussia Dortmund v Feyenoord
Tue Oct 27 7:45 Rosenborg v Boavista
Tue Nov 2 7:45 Boavista v Borussia Dortmund
Tue Nov 2 7:45 Feyenoord v Rosenborg
Group D P W D L F A PTS
Marseille 4 3 0 1 6 3 9
Manchester Utd 4 2 1 1 5 2 7
Croatia Zagreb 4 1 1 2 4 3 4
SK Sturm Graz 4 1 0 3 1 8 3
Fixtures/results
Tue Sep 14 Manchester United 0-0 Croatia Zagreb
Tue Sep 14 Marseille 2-0 SK Sturm Graz
Wed Sep 22 Croatia Zagreb 1-2 Marseille
Wed Sep 22 SK Sturm Graz 0-3 Manchester United
Wed Sep 29 Manchester United 2-1 Marseille
Wed Sep 29 Croatia Zagreb 3-0 SK Sturm Graz
Tue Oct 19 Marseille 1-0 Manchester United
Tue Oct 19 SK Sturm Graz 1-0 Croatia Zagreb
Wed Oct 27 7:45 NK Croatia v Man Utd
Wed Oct 27 7:45 Sturm Graz v Marseille
Tue Nov 2 7:45 Manchester United v SK Sturm Graz
Tue Nov 2 7:45 Marseille v Croatia Zagreb
Group E P W D L F A PTS
Real Madrid 3 2 1 0 10 5 7
FC Porto 3 2 0 1 4 3 6
Olympiakos 3 1 1 1 6 6 4
Molde FK 3 0 0 3 2 8 0
Fixtures/results
Wed Sep 2 Molde FK 0-1 FC Porto
Wed Sep 2 Olympiakos Piraeus FC 3-3 Real Madrid
Tue Sep 21 FC Porto 2-0 Olympiakos Piraeus FC
Tue Sep 21 Real Madrid 4-1 Molde FK
Tue Sep 28 Olympiakos Piraeus FC 3-1 Molde FK
Tue Sep 28 Real Madrid 3-1 FC Porto
Wed Oct 20 7:45 FC Porto v Real Madrid
Wed Oct 20 7:45 Molde FK v Olympiakos Piraeus FC
Tue Oct 26 7:45 FC Porto v Molde FK
Wed Oct 26 7:45 Real Madrid v Olympiakos Piraeus FC
Wed Nov 3 7:45 Molde FK v Real Madrid
Wed Nov 3 7:45 Olympiakos Piraeus FC v FC Porto
Group F P W D L F A PTS
Valencia 3 1 2 0 4 2 5
Bayern Munich 3 1 2 0 4 3 5
Rangers 3 1 1 1 2 3 4
PSV Eindhoven 3 0 1 2 2 4 1
Fixtures/results
Wed Sep 15 Bayern Munich 2-1 PSV Eindhoven
Wed Sep 15 Valencia 2-0 Rangers
Tue Sep 21 PSV Eindhoven 1-1 Valencia
Tue Sep 21 Rangers 1-1 Bayern Munich
Tue Sep 28 Bayern Munich 1-1 Valencia
Tue Sep 28 PSV Eindhoven 0-1 Rangers
Wed Oct 20 7:45 Rangers v PSV Eindhoven
Wed Oct 20 7:45 Valencia v Bayern Munich
Tue Oct 26 7:45 PSV Eindhoven v Bayern Munich
Tue Oct 26 7:45 Rangers v Valencia
Wed Nov 3 7:45 Bayern Munich v Rangers
Wed Nov 3 7:45 Valencia v PSV Eindhoven
Group G P W D L F A PTS
Bordeaux 3 2 1 0 5 3 7
Sparta Praha 3 1 2 0 5 1 5
Spartak Moscow 3 1 1 1 5 4 4
Willem II 3 0 0 3 3 10 0
Fixtures/results
Wed Sep 15 Sparta Praha 0-0 Girondins de Bordeaux
Wed Sep 15 Willem II 1-3 Spartak Moscow
Tue Sep 21 Girondins de Bordeaux 3-2 Willem II
Tue Sep 21 Spartak Moscow 1-1 Sparta Praha
Tue Sep 28 Sparta Praha 4-0 Willem II
Tue Sep 28 Girondins de Bordeaux 2-1 Spartak Moscow
Wed Oct 20 7:45 Spartak Moscow v Girondins de Bordeaux
Wed Oct 20 7:45 Willem II v Sparta Praha
Tue Oct 26 7:45 Girondins de Bordeaux v Sparta Praha
Tue Oct 26 7:45 Spartak Moscow v Willem II
Wed Nov 3 7:45 Sparta Praha v Spartak Moscow
Wed Nov 3 7:45 Willem II v Girondins de Bordeaux
Group H P W D L F A PTS
Hertha Berlin 3 1 2 0 5 2 5
AC Milan 3 1 2 0 3 2 5
Chelsea 3 1 1 1 2 2 4
Galatasaray 3 0 1 2 3 5 1
Fixtures/results
Wed Sep 15 Chelsea FC 0-0 AC Milan
Wed Sep 15 Galatasaray 2-2 Hertha BSC Berlin
Tue Sep 21 Hertha BSC 2-1 Chelsea FC
Tue Sep 21 AC Milan 2-1 Galatasaray
Tue Sep 28 Chelsea FC 1-0 Galatasaray
Tue Sep 28 AC Milan 1-1 Hertha BSC Berlin
Wed Oct 20 7:45 Galatasaray v Chelsea
Wed Oct 20 7:45 Hertha BSC Berlin v AC Milan
Tue Oct 26 7:45 Hertha BSC Berlin v Galatasaray
Tue Oct 26 7:45 AC Milan v Chelsea FC
Wed Nov 3 7:45 Chelsea FC v Hertha BSC Berlin
Wed Nov 3 7:45 Galatasaray v AC Milan
Third qualifying round - aggregate results
Chelsea (Eng) 3-0 Skonto Riga (Lat)
Rapid Vienna (Aut) 0-4 Galatasaray (Tur)
Fiorentina (Ita) 5-1 Widzew Lodz (Pol)
AaB Aalborg (Den) 3-4 Dynamo Kiev (Ukr)
Olympique Lyon (Fra)0-3 Maribor Teatanic (Slo)
Croatia Zagreb (Cro)2-0 MTK Budapest (Hun)
Teplice (Czech Rep) 0-1 Borussia Dortmund (Ger)
Rangers (Scot) 2-1 Parma (Ita)
Brondby (Den) 3-5 Boavista (Por)
AEK Athens (Gre) 0-1 AIK Stockholm (Swe)
Hapoel Haifa (Isr) 0-4 Valencia (Spa)
Hertha Berlin (Ger) 2-0 A.Famagusta (Cyp)
Zimbru Chisinau(Mol)0-2 PSV Eindhoven (Net)
Spartak Moscow (Rus)5-1 Partizan Belgrade (Yug)
Sturm Graz (Aut) 4-3 Servette (Swi)
Molde (Nor) 1-1 Real Mallorca (Spa)
(Molde go through on away goals)
Second qualifying round results
Valletta (Mal) 0-2 Rapid Vienna (Aut) Agg: 0-5
Slovan Bratislava (Slo) 1-1 Anorthosis Fam.(Cyp) Agg: 2-3
Rijeka (Cro) 0-3 Partizan Belgrade (Yug) Agg: 1-6
Molde (Nor) 4-0 CSKA Moscow (Rus) Agg: 4-2
Widzew Lodz (Pol) 4-1 Liteks (Bul) Agg: 5-5
Widzew won 3-2 on penalties
Rangers (Sco) 3-0 Haka (Fin) Agg: 7-1
Zimbru (Mol) 2-0 Dynamo Tbilisi (Geo) Agg: 3-2
AIK (Swe) 2-0 Dnepr-Transmash M. (Bel)Agg: 3-0
Brondby (Den) 1-0 Sloga Jugomagnat (Mac) Agg: 2-0
Skonto (Lat) 2-1 Rapid Bucharest (Rom) Agg: 5-4
Hapoel Haifa (Isr) 0-0 Besiktas (Tur) Agg: 1-1
Hapoel won on away goals
Zalgiris (Lit) 0-1 Dynamo Kiev (Ukr) Agg: 3-0
MTK Budapest (Hun) 3-1 Vestmannaeyja (Ice) Agg: 5-1
Genk (Bel) 3-0 Maribor (Slo) Agg: 4-5
First qualifying round results
Kapaz (Aze) 2-1 Sloga Jugomagnat (Mac) Agg: 2-2
Sloga Jugomagnat win on away goals
Tirana (Alb) 1-2 Vestmannaeyja (Ice) Agg: 1-3
Flora Tallinn (Est) 1-4 Partizan Belgrade (Yug) Agg: 1-10
Valletta (Mal) 3-2 Barry Town (Wal) Agg: 3-2
Glentoran (NIre) 0-2 Liteks (Bul) Agg: 0-5
Haka (Fin) 6-0 HB Torshavn (Faroe Is) Agg: 7-1
Skonto (Lat) 8-0 Jeunesse Esch (Lux) Agg: 10-0
Zimbru (Mol) 5-0 St Patrick's Ath. (Irl) Agg: 10-0
Tsement (Arm) 0-3 Zalgiris (Lit) Agg: 0-5
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Subject: CROATIA OFFERS NO PLEASURE TRIP FOR UNITED
Suddenly Manchester United's jaunt to Croatia Zagreb next week has become
less of a formality.
Sir Alex Ferguson had hoped the pressure would be off his Treble winners
going into the Champions League clash with Ossie Ardiles' side.
His master plan was that United would have taken at least a point off
Marseille last night and with three points virtually guaranteed against
Sturm Graz in their final game, his side could collect the magic total of
11 to qualify regardless of what happens in Croatia.
It has not quite worked out that way and instead United trail Group D
leaders Marseille by two points following their surprise 1-0 defeat on the
Stade Velodrome's paddy-field.
Ferguson had not been banking on divine intervention helping United, but
the gods were certainly smiling on them last night.
While his side were losing to Marseille, Sturm Graz somehow managed to beat
Zagreb to maintain United's three-point cushion over the Croatian champions.
United should still qualify, but another reverse in Zagreb could hole
United's qualification hopes below the waterline.
Skipper Roy Keane has no doubts what they need to do on Wednesday - win.
"Now we've got to go to Zagreb and get a better result, like a win," he said.
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Subject: Beckham and Keane battle for Euro crown ««
David Beckham and Roy Keane are close to being crowned European Footballer
of the Year - but will have to beat Rivaldo to do it.
According to leaks from France Football magazine which organises Le Ballon
D'Or, the famous Golden Ball trophy could be destined for Britain for the
first time in over 20 years, as they prepare to announce this year's winner
within the next few weeks.
During the Sixties, Denis Law, Sir Bobby Charlton and George Best all held
Europe's top individual honour whilst at Old Trafford and Beckham is
favourite in some quarters to follow in their footsteps.
The European Footballer of the Year is chosen by a compilation of votes
from 50 journalists from all parts of Europe, who each select their top
five players with the winner being decided using proportional representation.
The biggest obstacle for Beckham is teammate Keane who could take away some
of the votes which would have gone his way, and that could hand the trophy
to Barcelona star Rivaldo.
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Subject: We got it wrong admits Neville
Phil Neville admitted Manchester United got their game plan wrong after
Marseille ended their 18-match unbeaten Champions League run.
Neville revealed that Man U had thought the French team would be content to
play for a draw in the knowledge that a point would keep them on course for
a place in the second phase.
The defender feels they allowed themselves to be fooled and paid the price
as they lost 1-0 in the Stade Velodrome.
William Gallas scored the only goal in the 69th minute to take Marseille
two points clear of United at the top of Group D.
''Before the game the boss said they would probably be happy with a draw,''
said Neville.
''They've got Sturm Graz to come at home and three points against them
would probably get them through so they probably would have been happy with
a draw against us.
''Unfortunately we got led into a false sense of security in that we sat
back too much and didn't play our normal attacking game.
''We never got our passing game going and never really penetrated them. I
don't think we played well enough to win.
''If we had not lost this game we would have beaten Ajax's record of
unbeaten games and that's disappointing so now we must try and go another
19 games without defeat.''
United were a pale imitation of the team which terrorised Europe last
season and they never got to grips with the heavy pitch.
Despite the defeat United should still qualify for the second phase after
Sturm Graz surprisingly beat Croatia Zagreb 1-0.
The Treble winners hold a three-point advantage going into their clash with
Zagreb in Croatia next Wednesday.
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Subject: EDWARDS PROPOSES RADICAL CHANGES
Exclusive by Ben Lyttleton
Manchester United chairman Martin Edwards has come up with a solution to
solving fixture congestion - by proposing the Premiership is reduced to
sixteen clubs.
The chairman's controversial viewpoints are sure to be received critically
- after all, Manchester United have withdrawn from the FA Cup in order to
play in the World Club Championships in Brazil.
Edwards said: "There’s mention of cutting the Premiership down to eighteen
clubs. We have always supported that. We have said all along we favour an
eighteen-club league and with the football calendar as it currently stands,
with the amount of internationals and competitions and an expanded
Champions League, I would actually favour a sixteen-club league.
"I know that is going to be very contentious because we can’t even get
agreement on eighteen clubs. But I feel that in the future other leagues
will be reduced to sixteen and even if we do then downsize to eighteen
teams we will still be out of sync with them.
"Perhaps the only way you are going to get a reduced Premier League is by
having two divisions and negotiating with the clubs who are at the top of
the existing Football League to bring them in.
"Again, that is contentious and has not yet been debated by all the clubs
in the Premier League so I don’t know what the views of the other clubs
would be. I see that as being the only way of eventually reducing the
Premier League, whether it be to sixteen or eighteen clubs."
Edwards' popularity took a massive nosedive after United broke with
tradition in entering the World Club Competition in favour of the FA Cup.
It was a decision, stressed Edwards, that the club were pressured into
making.
He explained: "Quite clearly it was put to us that if Manchester United did
not compete in the tournament in Brazil in January, then that would
severely damage the chances of England winning the 2006 World Cup bid.
"It was purely on that basis that we withdrew from the FA Cup and agreed to
play in Brazil," he added, before saying that thet were told this by Tony
Banks.
"He was the sports minister at the time. The FA was involved in those
discussions as well but it was made quite plain to us that it would greatly
enhance the chances of the 2006 World Cup bid if we played in Brazil, but
it was put even stronger that we could jeopardise England’s chances if we
didn’t."
Edwards was speaking in the latest issue of United, the official Manchester
United magazine. He went on to explain that the proposed signing of Rivaldo
would have broken down when it came to personal terms.
"There is no doubt we would have loved to have had the Brazilian here but
the problem was that Barcelona didn’t want to sell him, and even if they
did what would the transfer fee have been? They paid £18m for him so they
are going to want £20m plus, and on top of that Rivaldo’s personal terms
are at least three times above what we pay our top player at the moment.
That creates problems for us."
The same problems, he added, that make spending money willy-nilly like
'superclubs' Lazio, Inter Milan or Real Madrid an impossibility. "We make
roughly £30m a year. Out of that you pay tax, so you might end up with
£21m. You then pay a dividend of, say, £5m, so if you’re lucky you’ll end
up with a £16m profit.
"Last summer we spent £28m on players, this year it was something like £11m
on Massimo Taibi, Mikael Silvestre and Quinton Fortune. We have spent £40m
but haven’t actually made that money net in the last two years. We have
actually spent more than we’ve earned.
"We have to do what we feel is right to strengthen the team, we have to
support the manager, but likewise we cannot spend what we are not earning.
Don’t forget that also during that period we were spending £30m on the
stadium and that is money you have to generate after tax. We can’t spend
over and above what we haven’t got.
"You must remember that clubs like Real Madrid have been £75m to £100m in
debt before and that this figure was then written off by King Carlos. We
can’t operate like that. I’m sure Her Majesty’s Government and the Inland
Revenue are not going to bail Manchester United out if we get heavily into
debt.
"The Italian clubs don’t necessarily run their businesses to make a profit
either. Very often they have got individual entrepreneurs who bail them
out. They are either backed by very big companies or wealthy individuals
and so when they get into debt the owners rescue them.
"You have only got to look at Inter Milan where Massimo Moratti has put
something like £30m of his own money into the club. They haven’t got the
restrictions that we have and they run them like their individual fiefdoms.
We can’t compete with that."
The full interview with Martin Edwards appears in United, out on Thursday
October 21
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