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Date: Sun Jun 20 13:55:27 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Now Official NEWS: Jaap Stam and Masterfan Paul Hinson
2. Two Geordie's and a packet of sweets PT 2 barce Diary by Steve Fisher
3. Competition Time! Guess the list members?
4. The FA and United


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Daily RED Trivia  Sunday 20th June 1999:

 Warren Bradley born in Hyde. Schoolteacher Bradley joined United after the
 Munich disaster and made his debut against Bolton Wanderers in November 1958.
 The gritty little winger was selected to play for England in his first season at Old
 Trafford, and won 3 caps in all. He won a total of 66 appearances and scored 
 21 goals between 1958-62. Bradley joined Bury in March 1962.

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Next games:  ****Pre season tour JULY 1999 ***

Melbourne  Sydney  
Thu 15/7 MAN. UNITED V SOCCEROOS evening in Melbourne 
    at the MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground- capacity 90,000.) kick off 20.00hrs.
- Melbourne Cricket Ground 5 minutes from the city. Good transport available
 Tickets available - starts from $60.00 - behind the goal -next up is $90.00,
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   + Far East

Wed 21/7 Shangai first time ever!!!
Sat 24/7 Hong Kong  Repeat of the 1997 game
 "ALL matches will be shown "the same day" om MUTV.

August 1st CHARITY SHIELD  Wembley:  Arsenal
August 3rd Omagh Town, St Julian's Road ground
            Temp seating will be erected to increase the
            capacity to 7,000 for the game.

UNITED Stats v All teams:

Pos Team                  P  W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A   GD  Pts
 1  Manchester United    38 14  4  1  45  18   8  9  2  35  19   43   79
 2  Arsenal              38 14  5  0  34   5   8  7  4  25  12   42   78
 3  Chelsea              38 12  6  1  29  13   8  9  2  28  17   27   75
 4  Leeds United         38 12  5  2  32   9   6  8  5  30  25   28   67
 5  West Ham United      38 11  3  5  32  26   5  6  8  14  27   -7   57

HIGHEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 27/02/99 - Southampton (55,316)
LOWEST HOME ATTENDANCE:  15/08/98 - Leicester City (55,052)
BEST WIN:                06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1)
HEAVIEST DEFEAT:         20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3)
BEST HOME WIN:           17/10/98 - Wimbledon (5-1)
HEAVIEST HOME DEFEAT:    19/12/98 - Middlesbrough (2-3)
BEST AWAY WIN:           06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1)
HEAVIEST AWAY DEFEAT:    20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3)*****
 Manchester Utd  2 v 0  Inter Milan
 Real Madrid     1 v 1  Dynamo Kiev
 Juventus        2 v 1  Olympiakos
 Bayern Munich   2 v 0  Kaiserslautern

**DYNAMO KIEV      2 v 0  REAL MADRID         (Agg:3-1)
OLYMPIAKOS         1 v 1  **JUVENTUS          (Agg:2-3)

Semi Finals 
Manchester United v Juventus  4-3agg 3-2 [1-1]
Bayern Munchen v Dynamo Kiev  4-3agg 1-0 [3-3]

Venue Camp Nou (Estadi FC Barcelona), Barcelona, Spain 
Date Wednesday 26 May 1999 Kick-Off 20.45 CET (19.45 GMT) 

Personal stories here: http://www.red11.org/mufc/barcelona.htm


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Subject: Now Official NEWS: Jaap Stam and Masterfan Paul Hinson Our Stats Official Paul Hinson is now recognised on the Official Site: as of today http://www.manutd.com/news/feature.sps?from=latest&id=1631993 - STAM MEETS MASTERFAN Saturday, June 19, 1999 18:07 Dutch masters like Jaap Stam are a rare breed, but not quite as rare as the Masterfan. The one and only is Paul Hinson who beat off some stiff competition from his fellow Reds to claim the title of the club's most knowledgeable supporter. The 39-year-old from Sale managed a tense one-point victory in front of the cameras of MUTV, who first launched the quick-fire quiz show last September. Paul's specialist questions, asked by host Anthony H. Wilson, were based on United's 1993-94 season. Congratulations Paul on a fantastic job done Webmasters Barry & Bill. We hear that you answered Jaap's personal question as well! "Ji Jap, Jaap Stam!" Also sent out as a newsletter_ cc of todays Newsletter: X-Sender: listmaster@manutd.com To: barrylee@post3.tele.dk From: listmaster@manutd.com Subject: MANUTD.COM Newsletter [SUNDAY, 20-JUN-1999] X-Mailer: Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:59:47 +0200 MANUTD.COM Newsletter [SUNDAY, 20-JUN-1999] Dear Barry Here is your latest Personal Newsletter. Just click on the links below or copy and paste the link into your browser's Address bar to go directly to the stories on the official Manchester United Web Site. --------------------------------------------------------------- LATEST NEWS --------------------------------------------------------------- 19-JUN-1999 [18:07] Stam Meets Masterfan Dutch masters like Jaap Stam are a rare breed, but not quite as rare as the Masterfan. The one and only is Paul Hinson who beat off some stiff competition from his fellow Reds to claim the title of the club's most knowledgeable supporter. The 39-year-old from Sale managed a tense one-point victory in front of the cameras of MUTV, who first launched the quick-fire quiz show last September. Paul's specialist questions, asked by host Anthony H. Wilson, were based on United's 1993-94 season. http://www.manutd.com/news/feature.sps?from=latest&id=1631993 MUFC Hon. Executive CP Cheah Webmasters: Barry Leeming & Bill McArthur Stats: Masterfan 1999 Paul Hinson Graphics: Sam Hayward Design: Diana Low Webmaster Mail: barry@www.red11.org Url: http://www.red11.org World of Manchester United Football Club.
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Subject: Two Geordie's and a packet of sweets PT 2 barce Diary by Steve Fisher Tuesday A leisurely breaky and lie in was well in order ,the buffet was top notch very euro you might say, lots of drinkable yogurts and strange meats ,a DIY toaster and loads of fresh juices ,very nice I must say . We had arranged a quick organized tour of the city it took about three hours and I saw all the major sights I won't bore you with the details but it was worthwhile,after that it was decided to wander up to the Nou camp along the way lots of stops mainly at sport stores .I must say I liked Barca ,very clean ,friendly people and a good public transport system,whilst walking up the street I was asked if I needed a ticket a very naive young lad of about 21 asked me if I wanted to buy ,I knew that Paul W's daughter (amongst others) needed a brief so I went along with the game he wanted 70,000 pstas,I knew this to be about $700.00 cdn (300.00) So I told him to stuff it ,the thing that amazes me he actually let me hold it so I could check its authenticity ,I can tell you he wouldn't of lasted 5 minutes on Wembley way with that procedure. Anyway we then stopped for a nice lunch in a small local restaurant and then up to the Camp.Immediately approaching the ground we were accosted by people selling but they all wanted about the same as the other lad had offered,a bit further round and we stumbled across the ticket office ,apparently they were still selling tickets to Barca season ticket holders which angered me and the many other reds that were hanging around ,I tried the old "I'm a Canadian and I've flown a long way" story but there was no way they would sell me a ticket,further round we came across the Barca club shop (programs BTW were 1000 outside the ground on the stalls and 700 in the shop)The shop was very nice inside ,typically pricey but good quality gear the layout reminded me of these new Disney stores that are opening up everywhere .The one thing that did impress me was the high end merchandise on sale ,some really classy crystal and top end leather jackets all emblazoned with the Barca logo,on the way out I tried to warn as many reds outside who were snapping up programs that they were cheaper inside. Apart from being bloody hot you could already feel the big match tension beginning to build,people handing out press passes, large camera trucks with satellite dishes on top loads of Reds and a smaller number of Germs milling about,we were thirsty again so down the main drag and a stop off in one of the ever present tapas bars and back to the hotel at around 6pm ,Shower change and out on the town ....and oh what a night! I guess it was around 9pm as we were walking down the Rambla I spotted a Net reds T shirt I of course accosted him and discovered it was Pete Steyger from Oregon who quickly introduced me to PJ Thum and Mark Roberts it was at that point an evening of epic proportions began, Drink? is the pope catholic? Laugh, Sing! we did it all. I find it difficult to describe in words the camaraderie not just from the list members but from Reds in general encountered on this trip, everyone knew it was something special, we all knew we were lucky to be there.I do remember feeling sorry for the lads without tickets,there were loads of lads feeling tension due to that. The atmosphere in the town ,the temperature (walking home at 3am in shorts and a T shirt ) Reds from all over the world ,anticipation about tomorrows game (and list meet) BRILLIANT! At this point I really can't do justice (in words) to the evening I urge you all to take a look at PJ Thums excellent photo diary which is at http://natatorium.simplenet.com/photos/Barcelona/ it will give you an idea of the fun we had. The only other thing to mention what a great bloke Mark Roberts is, as you will know by now his name is in a lot of these personal reports ,he loves a party that lad and he is a TOP RED! (although I did see him dancing with a leather trousered sausage warrior) but thats another story. ..........Arrived back at the hotel around 4 am. Nuff said ^))) Match Day! Woke up late needless to say ,I just managed to catch the free buffet which ended at 10.30am, back to the room,showered and put my 58 replica United shirt on, grabbed my lucky flag ...Manchester United the Magnificent. I'm proud of this flag I made it for the cup final in 1976 so it's been around a bit. Around noon I made my way to the Hardrock Cafe,I was very excited to see everyone especially Barry & Bill, Linda & Paul who between them have helped fill the void I feel by not being able to go to United on a regular basis,the wonderful website and match reports are truly a bonus to people like me who can't attend on a regular basis,and also,to meet mates like Dave M and Mark R. Oh I mustn't forget Ethel from South Africa as well as many others who are too numerous to mention (and are mentioned) and photographed in many other personal reports.I spent about 4 hours in the hardrock I enjoyed a very good meal, drank loads of pints and had my photo taken a million times.Also Dave introduced me to Phil and John from San Jose who I ended up partying with well into the night but more of that later. Being at the Hardrock felt like a reunion of sorts, people from all over the world shaking hands ,hugging, laughing and recanting stories of their travels and ticket situation.Brilliant,Fantastic,I'll never forget those few hours in that bar........REDS ARE HERE, REDS ARE THERE, REDS ARE EVERY F.....G WHERE. Around 4pm I decided it was time to leave I said my fond farewells and started the trek back to the hotel ,It was scorching hot and it reminded me of an invading army ,flags, scarves and United shirts of every era and description were worn by members of the red army it filled my eyes with pride as I tried to take in all the sights, walking back towards the hotel, reds sat at open air bars smiled at passers by, wishing each other good luck,thumbs up signs, people singing ,people getting pissed.Again words can't describe (at least not my words). Hotel now, shower, change into my white United shirt (the good one) and downstairs to the lobby, the bus left about 6pm it was a short journey up to the Nou Camp made longer by the immense number of people all going to the same bloody place.(surprise surprise) We got let of the bus the driver said "we'll meet back at the same place" (yea sure) I told the others we'll win so "I won't be back, don't wait" Walking across the road we were at the top of a road that looked sort of like Wembley way ,walking down I was as happy as can be reds everywhere, Mums,Dads, kids in strollers, young kids, old blokes it was like Manchester days at Blackpool.Over to my right was a high wall loads of lads sat around some without tickets ,others waiting for mates,at this point I was concerned for my ticket so I gripped the ticket inside my pocket as hard as I could,I looked around everybody seemed to be doing the same thing ,that ticket was the most important thing in my life ,someone could knick my passport or my money but they weren't getting my ticket! At this point as we were approaching the man made barrier of police vans the crowd started to crush,I remember this feeling from the old days ,as lads we used to "ride the crowd" over the railway bridge at the back of Old Trafford we'd inch our way into the crush and lift our feet letting the crowd take us as far as it would,we used to make a game of it and see who would travel the farthest without our feet touching the ground. Well it's been a while since games like that, I must admit to feeling scared ,but eventually I got through and sighed a sigh of relief,then onto the next round....the police horses (honest I felt like it was some whacked out Spanish game of it's a knockout" The crowd was very well behaved and there was no need to be treated like this everyone was incensed (the words Hillsbough were muttered more than once I assure you) The coppers now wanted everyone to pass at one pont near a wall to my left so all of us were pushed over as there was a line of police horses in front of us many of you will have been in close proxsimitry to police horses ,they don't exactly turn on a sixpence,honestly it was barmy.Next onto the area where you were searched and of course they took out the cane stick which was my flag handle (further along they allowed the vendors to sell flags with sticks!!!) Nuts! Anyway after all this I had to find section 7 I walked forever as I was in the area closer to the Bayern end ,it was there I realized I was in corporate heaven ,now I'm not complaining because they were truly top class seats but it was definably "suits only" I walked in past the first checkpoint,then past the hospitality tents then up to the moment of truth ....the ticket scanner. I'm IN !!!!!!!!!!! Time was passing quickly I've no real idea of how long it took me to get to my seat, I was starving so a Ham and cheese baguette and a beer was in order,I sat down at the back of the stand and watched the world go by, suits and evening dresses everywhere ,anyway my section was down a level, so down I went, a quick photo (Fish at the Nou Camp) and into my seat. I was in the bottom tier about halfway between the eighteen and the halfway line towards the Bayern end (south) and probably 30 rows back....perfect! On the side where the lads lifted the trophy. BTW our old pal Hristo Stoichkov sat about 15 seats to my left. And funnily enough the two geordies from Vancouver airport were directly behind me ? Some fat lady came out, some oversized rubbers from that erotic museum and the match was on. The game itself well what can I say? Mr Giggs in my front room :^) Peter's Kicking !?! ,Becks everywhere,Mr Stam I'd like to introduce Mr Johnson,Dodgy free kick,crap wall!!!!!,was it just me or did 50,000 reds all want Bloomers off at half time? What do you mean halftime it's only been five frigging minutes! Voooom! kick off again. second half They hit the post ,they hit the bar.Two subs that I'd mentioned to Sir Matt in my prayers. three minutes of added time! What's this ? Corner,Goal, Orgasm Flares!!!! long ball ,Ole, top notch! Another Corner, another Goal, Second Orgasm (Two in one night I could get used to this) That was it, bloody unbelievable! We won it! Quick as a flash I was out of my seat I gave two stewards the slip and ran across dozens of seats excusing myself to the corporate hoards who were all wearing Cannon hats and Mastercard T shirts and silly grins. Excuse me,Excuse me,please let me through,Excuse me,eventually I reached my goal I leaned on the back of the players bench exactly at the halfway line and waited, the lads were celebrating behind the goal over to my left. During this time I reflected on what a fantastic stadium the Nou camp is ,two huge scoreboards at either end of the ground with fantastically clear TV shots of the celebrations,the three tiers covered in flags from all parts of the world,the lads wooping it up like young lads do, basking in the glory of winning the European Cup.Then I turned, I saw Sir Bob on the tier just above me and I yelled his name, I caught his eye and I held my banner aloft , clenched my fists around the corners of the flag and I simply shouted Yes! at the top of my lungs, he saw me, and smiled he had tears in his eyes. Another moment I'll remember forever. The players were returning to the podium I remember the Bayern Players going up to get their medals they looked beggared I especially remember Matthaus who took his medal off as soon as he stepped down from the stage ,he walked (as did all the players) within 6 feet of me down to the dressing rooms I looked at his face closely you could see how disappointed he was but obviously a strong man holding in his emotion.A bloody good player! Next thing I see is David May securing a top class photo opportunity immediately behind the trophy ,how I smiled to see the lads enjoying the moment so much ,slowly but surely one by one the lads collected there medals, again Maysie made me laugh he was second in line to get a medal,after big Pete got his of course. All this was happening twenty five feet or so away from me some of my view was obscured by the bloody photographers but I realized how bloody lucky I was. When I returned home there was even a glimpse of me pointing up to Bobby on the TV (just after the shot of Sir Bob and Edwards chatting, the camera pans the crowd, I'm there with my back to the camera pointing up at Bobby ,holding my red flag) I had a brilliant view of the whole proceedings and some really close up views of the backroom staff ,people like Jimmy Ryan and Steve Mclaren also I think I saw Fergies brother down on the pitch (at least it looked like him)by now all the team were up on the podium and Up went the cup ,the crowd exploded with noise and I remember looking around to see thousands of flash cameras all popping off at once,people all around were hugging each other and jumping up and down like school kids.The team then all went to the goal to my left where the mass majority of Reds sat the celebrations were fantastic to watch ,the fans and the players all elated by the victory at one point Fergie was lifted on the shoulders of the players and the crowd saved the loudest cheer for him,and rightly so! I'm not sure how long the players celebrated but it seemed to be at least 30 minutes ,maybe more ,eventually the lads did a lap of honor and came back around in front of me ,I remember Ole and Sheri running in below me I assume for TV interviews but they came out again and joined the players who once again were in front of the goal to my left. Another ten minutes of celebrations and then slowly the players came back towards me,two things stick out in my mind, Peter whilst walking off the pitch jumped up to high five a red who was four people to my left and Sheri stopped and leaned over the back of the bench and kissed his medal ,this happened about six feet away from me ,another vignette that I'll never forget. All the players trooped off the pitch just below me ,and we could see glimpses of player interviews being conducted just below the stands where we stood ,I can assure you I made every attempt to jib my way into this area but it was too well guarded,also we sang a song for Sheri, whilst he was being interviewed ,I don't know if anybody saw coverage of that interview? I then walked back into the ground and saw a lounge that had a sign which read official Manchester United event. All the big wigs were enjoying a sandwhich and a pint,I felt very jealous ...lucky buggers! I turned left and found a bar! still serving! Non alcoholic but never the less beer so I stopped and bought one. outside now and I saw a couple of MU USA branch T'shirts so I said hello and asked them to say hi to Pete Holland for me. On down the street and reds everywhere coaches ,miles and miles of coaches ,TV cameras ,people lying down on grassy verges ,exhausted, others singing and dancing the local merchants selling posters ,everywhere happy Reds! I walked and walked and finally bumped into Sean from Boston who was walking along with two lads from Australia who were on the FA bus trip from Wilmslow,Sean and I walked forever I looked down a metro station and it was packed so on we walked, not a taxi in sight ! Sean and I stopped for a bite and there were some very dejected looking Germans in there.One red who I met in the bogs was washing a badly cut hand ,apparently he had climbed a lamppost to knick one of the ECL banners that were all around town. Finally we found a taxi and off we went to the Michael Collins pub when we arrived the crowd was spilled out onto the street , it was a mini list meet ,Dave,John, Phil from San Hose ,Mark Roberts ,PJ and many others were there, someone got me a pint and Dave and I walked across the street for some quiet reflection on the evening. it was a great party and the perfect way to end the Barca experience we sang and drank until the wee hours ,around 2 am the police showed up ,but it was cool. we were asked to go inside the pub as we were making too much noise ,so in we went ,and the sing song (standing on tables) went on till 4am ,then ,and fair enough we were turfed out,I said my farewells to Mark and the California lads and off i went to find a taxi,the young lad who was driving had watched the game so we had a broken conversation in English and Spanish as he took me back to the hotel ,as I got out he said Manchester Championes! so I doubled his tip and in I went. Did I mention my bus left in the morning at 7 am ! Two hours kip, woke up, no voice,completely gone! into the buffet, (coffee and juice was all I could manage),jumped on the bus to the airport ,.the airport was a funny site, there were reds kipping in every corner! Checked in, bought some plonk at the duty free and over to the boarding area ,it was the 8 am to Heathrow and it was full of journalists ,we saw Martin Tyler, and Bob Wilson was with Arsene Wenger ,so off I went to my seat , singing... "and a packet of sweets" in my head. :^))) Heathrow now and a bugger of a layover we didn't leave until 4pm, ten hours later there was Steve Edge he had promised to pick me up in Vancouver he drove me to the ferry (via a chippy and a pint ) we had a good natter and he left me at the ferry terminal (thanks Edgey) three hours later I was in my bed 24 hours after getting up in Barca. Knackered, but it felt wonderful! Fish ps Lets do it again! Next year. steve fisher 1023 nakini place Manchester United Football Club brentwood bay till death do us part British Columbia v8m 1a3 Canada trafford publishing http://www.trafford.com
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Subject: Competition Time! Guess the list members? This Competition starts today 19th June 1999 and runs to the end of June: The winner(s) will get a free "ReDs in Barcelona" Audio CD made by Barry at www.red11.org [If there are too many winners {same number} I will have to draw a maximum of 5 out of a hat] The Cd contains a 66min MUFC homemade mix inteviews and Barceloma match comms! I want you to to name as many list members as possible that you can see in this picture: www.red11.org/mufc/images/99/ecfinal/hard_rock_list_meet_barcelona.jpg If you do not have www let me know and i will mail you the 119k 811x556 jpg picture GOOD LUCK! Mail your list of FULL names to barrylee@post3.tele.dk "This competeition is open to ALL & list members" PS Even if you are in this picture you can still enter! MUFC Hon. Executive CP Cheah Webmasters: Barry Leeming & Bill McArthur Stats: Masterfan 1999 Paul Hinson Graphics: Sam Hayward Design: Diana Low Webmaster Mail: barry@www.red11.org Url: http://www.red11.org World of Manchester United Football Club.
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Subject: The FA and United How lovely, NOW, the FA are willing to extend the season just so United will play in that club world cup. Apparently there isn't a rule saying that the season must end on the same day for all so they are actually willing to help "us" now. A second thing - they are willing to let us field a reserve side for the FA Cup 4th round. HOW NICE! If this is all about doing THEM a favour, how about a bye to the next round? What suckers do they think we are? The whole idea of this new tournament is money. Fifa wants more money, Blatter wants more money. I'd be very very happy if the richest club in the world was to say NO to this tournament. Somehow I just can't figure how they think it's appropriate to have this tournament AND the Tokyo match in November. -- Glory Glory Man United, Amir Inbar, Israel
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