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Date: Mon Apr 20 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. The RED-Devils Advocate: "The Devil May Care 4"
2. THE GOAL!!!! In US & Canada
3. Manchester United Reserves + Junior Teams Pontins/FA Premier Academy U-17/U-19
4. As Juventus hit top form United are warned: One mistake and it's all over 
5. Old dog Sheringham still has the tricks to put bite on Juve 
6. The Times defends Martin
7. Brilliant take on Edwards
9. Please tell me I'm not dreaming...
10. Ferguson furious as dubious offside decision subjects his team to Villa Park replay 


Daily RED Trivia  Tues 20th April 1999:

 Andrew Mitchell born in County Durham. A speedy Wingman, Mitchell
 was bought from Darlington for £600 and made his only senior appearance at
 Notts County in March 1933. He moved on to Hull City in June 1933.

 United clinch their fifth League title after beating Sunderland 4-0 at
 Old Trafford watched by 58,725. Billy Whelan 2, Duncan Edwards and Tommy
 Taylor wrapped up the Championship with 3 games to spare. Team was:
 Wood, Foulkes, Bryne, Colman, Blanchflower, Edwards, Berry, Whelan, Taylor,
 Charlton, Pegg.


Barry Daily Comment:

Suspensions take effect 14 days after the offence. The 'Official'
website confirmed the Villa game as the one he will miss.
This week sees a match so BIG on wednesday that the importance
cannot be measured! Good luck to REDS all over the world.

Comments: To: RedDevils@onelist.com, hylton@twimedia.com

Email Story

This story was sent to you from Manchester United Official Web site
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by a friend, Paul Hinson, whose email address is

Story Follows:


Saturday, April 17, 1999 17:19
United's Academy Under-19 side successfully navigated their first play-off
match, against Millwall at The Cliff on Saturday morning. Luke Chadwick
was the star of the game, making one and scoring two of the Reds' goals in
a convincing 4-1 win. United now face Chelsea in the next round of the
competition. Read Cliff Butler's match report here.

To read the full story visit the Manchester United Official Web site at
http://www.manutd.com or go directly to the story at

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Important European Cup Ticket Info: (thanks to Mike)

UEFA Champions League final tickets information

The following has appeared on the UEFA website regarding tickets for the 
final.  Subject to the minor matter of beating Juventus next week, this is of 
particular interest to supporters outside England, since applications will 
not be accepted from the countries of competing clubs.   

UEFA Champions League final tickets information 
UEFA Champions League Final 
Venue Camp Nou (Estadi FC Barcelona), Barcelona, Spain 
Date Wednesday 26 May 1999 
Kick-Off 20.45 CET (19.45 GMT) 

Apart from ticket orders from supporters residing in the countries of the two 
finalist clubs - Manchester United FC (England) or Juventus FC (Italy) and 
Dynamo Kyiv (Ukraine) or FC Bayern München (Germany) - which, for security 
reasons, must be submitted to the clubs concerned, ticket orders for the 
general public irrespective of their country of residence can be ordered 
through the Real Federación Española de Fútbol (Spanish Football Federation).

Ticket Order Methods: Real Federación Española de Fútbol (RFEF)  
Post Real Federación Española de Fútbol (RFEF)
Alberto Bosch, 13
E-29014 MADRID
Telephone ++34-91-369 5045
++34-91-369 4771
++34-91-369 4129 
Fax ++34-91-429 8428 
E-Mail rfef@tsai.es 
Closing Date Thursday 29 April 1999 

No supporter may purchase more than four tickets, subject to availability. 
Tickets are for personal use only, and must not be resold or used for 
commercial purposes. The Real Federación Española de Fútbol (Spanish Football 
Federation) may reject or reduce any ticket order considered to be 

Prices Pesetas 
Category 1 14,000 Ptas 
Category 2 10,000 Ptas 
Category 3 7,000 Ptas 
Category 4 4,500 Ptas 

Written confirmation - by fax or mail - will be forwarded on receipt of an 
order for tickets for this match, and the amount for the total price of the 
tickets will be transferred to the Banco Popular Español.
Account Number: 0075-0591-17-0600300602
Banco Popular Español, Agencia 51, Calle Ruiz de Alarcón 25, E-28014 MADRID


Previous News:
BSKYB Takeover news/pics at http://www.red11.org/mufc/bskyb.htm
 Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!

Next games: 
ALL Result/Fixture Index:
If you would like ALL the final fixtures for
UNITED/Arse/Chelsea then go to http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899.htm

Next Games:
Today! Sheff Wed (H) 15.00 PL
21 European Cup Semi Juventus (A) 19.45 CL
25 Leeds (A)  11.30 {am} UK PL Live Sky Sports UK 

UNITED Stats v All teams:

*** RESULT ON 19/04/99 ***

    Arsenal   5-1   Wimbledon


Pos Team                  P   W   D   L   F   A   GD  Pts
 1  Manchester United    32  19  10   3  72  32   40   67
 2  Arsenal              33  18  12   3  48  14   34   66
 3  Chelsea              33  17  13   3  49  26   23   64
 4  Leeds United         33  16  11   6  53  29   24   59
 5  Aston Villa          34  14  10  10  45  39    6   52
 6  West Ham United      34  14   9  11  39  41   -2   51
 7  Middlesbrough        34  12  14   8  46  42    4   50
 8  Derby County         33  12  11  10  37  41   -4   47
 9  Liverpool            32  12   8  12  57  42   15   44
10  Tottenham Hotspur    32  10  13   9  36  37   -1   43
11  Newcastle United     33  11   9  13  44  48   -4   42
12  Wimbledon            34  10  11  13  37  55  -17   41
13  Leicester City       32   9  13  10  34  41   -7   40
14  Sheffield Wednesday  33  11   5  17  38  39   -1   38
15  Everton              34   9  10  15  31  41  -10   37
16  Coventry City        34  10   7  17  35  47  -12   37
17  Charlton Athletic    33   7  11  15  35  44   -9   32
18  Blackburn Rovers     33   7  11  15  35  46  -11   32
19  Southampton          34   8   7  19  31  63  -32   31
20  Nottingham Forest    34   4   9  21  30  66  -36   21

*** FIXTURES ON 20/04/99 ***
   Charlton Athletic  v  Tottenham Hotspur

*** FIXTURES ON 21/04/99 ***
           Liverpool  v  Leicester City
 Sheffield Wednesday  v  Newcastle United

*** FIXTURES ON 24/04/99 ***
         Aston Villa  v  Nottingham Forest
    Blackburn Rovers  v  Liverpool
        Derby County  v  Southampton
             Everton  v  Charlton Athletic
      Leicester City  v  Coventry City
       Middlesbrough  v  Arsenal
   Tottenham Hotspur  v  West Ham United
           Wimbledon  v  Newcastle United

*** FIXTURES ON 25/04/99 ***
        Leeds United  v  Manchester United
 Sheffield Wednesday  v  Chelsea


Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251
17/10/98    Wimbledon                Home     W  5-1     2    55,265
24/10/98    Derby County             Away     D  1-1     2    30,867
31/10/98    Everton                  Away     W  4-1     2    40,079
08/11/98    Newcastle United         Home     D  0-0     3    55,174
14/11/98    Blackburn Rovers         Home     W  3-2     2    55,198
21/11/98    Sheffield Wednesday      Away     L  1-3     2    39,475
29/11/98    Leeds United             Home     W  3-2     2    55,172
05/12/98    Aston Villa              Away     D  1-1     2    39,241
12/12/98    Tottenham Hotspur        Away     D  2-2     1    36,079
16/12/98    Chelsea                  Home     D  1-1     2    55,159
19/12/98    Middlesbrough            Home     L  2-3     3    55,152
26/12/98    Nottingham Forest        Home     W  3-0     3    55,216
29/12/98    Chelsea                  Away     D  0-0     3    34,741
10/01/99    West Ham United          Home     W  4-1     3    55,180
16/01/99    Leicester City           Away     W  6-2     2    22,091
31/01/99    Charlton Athletic        Away     W  1-0     1    20,043
03/02/99    Derby County             Home     W  1-0     1    55,174
06/02/99    Nottingham Forest        Away     W  8-1     1    30,025
17/02/99    Arsenal                  Home     D  1-1     1    55,171
20/02/99    Coventry City            Away     W  1-0     1    22,596
27/02/99    Southampton              Home     W  2-1     1    55,316
13/03/99    Newcastle United         Away     W  2-1     1    36,500
21/03/99    Everton                  Home     W  3-1     1    55,182
03/04/99    Wimbledon                Away     D  1-1     1    26,121
17/04/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Home     W  3-0     1    55,270


       P   Won       Drawn     Lost      For        Against    Points
Home   17  12 (71%)  4 (24%)   1 (6%)    41 (2.4)   16 (0.9)   40 (2.4)
Away   15  7 (47%)   6 (40%)   2 (13%)   31 (2.1)   16 (1.1)   27 (1.8)

Total  32  19 (59%)  10 (31%)  3 (9%)    72 (2.3)   32 (1.0)   67 (2.1)

                                         Averages per game in (brackets)

HIGHEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 27/02/99 - Southampton (55,316)
LOWEST HOME ATTENDANCE:  15/08/98 - Leicester City (55,052)
BEST WIN:                06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1)
HEAVIEST DEFEAT:         20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3)
BEST HOME WIN:           17/10/98 - Wimbledon (5-1)
HEAVIEST HOME DEFEAT:    19/12/98 - Middlesbrough (2-3)
BEST AWAY WIN:           06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1)
HEAVIEST AWAY DEFEAT:    20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3)

Champions League:
Group D         P  W  D  L  F  A   Pts
Bayern Munich   6  3  2  1  9  6  11   
Man United      6  2  4  0 20 11  10
Barcelona       6  2  2  2 11  9   8    
Brondby         6  1  0  5  4 18   3   

Dec  9 Brøndby         0-2  Barcelona
Dec  9 Man Utd         1-1  Bayern Munich


 Manchester Utd  2 v 0  Inter Milan
 Real Madrid     1 v 1  Dynamo Kiev
 Juventus        2 v 1  Olympiakos
 Bayern Munich   2 v 0  Kaiserslautern

**DYNAMO KIEV      2 v 0  REAL MADRID         (Agg:3-1)
OLYMPIAKOS         1 v 1  **JUVENTUS          (Agg:2-3)

Semi Final 2nd legs to be played  21st April
Manchester United v Juventus  [1-1]
Bayern Munchen v Dynamo Kiev  [3-3]


Phil Neville talks about Italy and the team

Subject: The RED-Devils_Advocate: "The Devil May Care 4" www.red11.org REDitorial written by DMC Published: April 19th 99 http://www.red11.org/mufc/devilsadvocate The Devil May Care 4 As far as the football is concerned we have witnessed some epic games recently and none more so than last Wednesday night at Villa Park. We have always enjoyed our semis in Aston but last week those of us who were lucky enough to have been present will never forget it. The match had everything, in fact if Hollywood had offered it as a script every single one of us would have told them to piss off, it would surely be too far fetched even for Hollywood. But it happened. It was a night which tested our throats to the full and those of us who had to speak to anyone the day after would have left them in no doubt of our allegiance so croaky were the old vocal cords. "You sound like a frog" someone told me, it was only then that this person was made party to the truth. Never before did they know of my interest in football never mind my fanaticism towards United, but on Thursday there was no hiding place. Everybody knew. And wasn't it funny walking out of Villa Park through the hoards of Arse trying desperately to keep a straight face when it was plainly impossible! Safety in numbers was called for then or a single Red would have been set upon without mercy. And in Manchester in the pubs apparently it was pandemonium. In one of the pubs noted for it's sobriety if that's not a contradiction there was mayhem when that goal was scored. Never before had scenes of such joy been witnessed in this normally sedate establishment. It's reported that the bonding that went on there that night could see several millennium births. So we have reached the first Final, in fact the last Final at the Wemberly we know. The last Final of the millennium. Surely right and fitting that the record winners of the FA Cup will be the final name on that famous old trophy before the year 2000. Let's bug the whole of the rest of football and do this for posterity. We are all wondering what will happen in Turin. One thing's for sure the whole of the rest of Italy will be willing us to win so that they can have a laugh at the Old Lady. Juve are the Italian United - no-one else likes them, everyone else hates them. That doesn't mean to say we have anything in common - they are still a bunch of barcodes after all. So what of the European Cup? Again, how right and fitting that the name of Manchester United should be enscribed as the first team ever to win the trophy and have not qualified as champions. We are the Red Devils aren't we. Why change the habits of a lifetime - buck tradition and go for it. Who has ever told us what to do? Who has ever been able to dictate to us? Talking of dictators, what about the BSkyB bid. Altogether now - aaaaaaaaaaah! As I said before, no-one dictates to us if we don't want them to- no-one - not even you Murdog. I know there are some of you who may have misgivings about this, especially now Martin's spouting on about not being able to afford to buy players, putting up Season Ticket prices etc., but while he's throwing his toys out of his cot and walking away with the ball let's consider a few facts shall we. What a hopeless case he is. It just goes to show what an incredible business brain he has when as the so called head of the richest club in the world can't quite grasp the fact that if the team are doing well the share price will go up and thus Manchester United will make more money. What does this astute person do - he spitefully says that because of the naughty boys in IMUSA and SUAM, Manchester United can't now afford to buy players in the summer. Perhaps someone a little closer than me to Martin would like to remind him of that well known saying about cutting one's nose off to spite one's face! As the Sergeant said to the Corporal in "It Ain't Half Hot Mum", "stupid boy." This is MR BUSINESS BRAIN 1999 who is running our club. A man who would deny the single most important man in Manchester United over the last decade, namely the Wizard Fergie, the opportunity to invest in the team. Well done Martin you really are a superb servant of our club. You really do have the best interests of Manchester United at heart - like f**k you do. He's not just a touch mad that the share price has fallen dramatically, that he's lost millions,is he? If he actually took time to think about it, those nice people at IMUSA and SUAM have actually put him on the right path to make millions more. But he's too bitter to see it so why doesn't he go and join City where he'd be more than welcome. Can't he even see that without the player investment over the summer we wouldn't be in the position we are right now. Records are falling fast for this outfit. They are about to eclipse the 1993-94 team with a bit of luck. That team were the best I have ever seen wearing the Red shirts and this lot are better and are hopefully about to prove it. My advice is to buy shares now while the price is low and see your investment grow, but the main thing is you will hold a vital stake in your club which at the appropriate moment you can drive through Martin's heart - metaphorically speaking of course! We don't mean it Marty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So we've shoved it up the Arse, ditched the Dirty Digger and all we need to top off the month is to batter the Old Lady. Are there any scousers out there who can give us tips on how this may be achieved? DMC Feedback/Comments/Email to: The RED-Devils_Advocate email - red_devils_advocate@yahoo.com Guest Book: Sign http://jupiter.guestworld.tripod.lycos.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=reditorial View http://jupiter.guestworld.tripod.lycos.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=reditorial RED Regards DMC, Barry and Bill! N.B. by emailing or adding an entry to our guestbook you are granting us permission to quote you in part or in whole in any future articles. --- The www.red11.org Web Team ---
Phil Neville talks about Italy and the team

Subject: THE GOAL!!!! In US & Canada Hello Reds -- what a great week it was -- & will be!!!! Giggsy's "fantastic" goal can be seen in the USA & Canada on the "English Premier League Highlights" show on Fox Sports (this is on cable -- it's not pay-per-view though so it won't cost $19.95 which was the cost for a prior Reds match on PPV). I saw it yesterday on the 5 pm show. In fact I saw the goal about a dozen times because I recorded the 2 hour program which covers all PL matches, and for about 5 minutes foreign match highlights. In New England the show is on NESN every week. There are numerous other regional cable companies listed at the end of the program -- where it can be seen on a regular basis. Check it out!!! The show is on several times (am/pm) this week. The program shows highlights of the Arse match for about 15 minutes and the Reds match vs Sheffield Wed is the main match of the program -- this match lasts for about 40 minutes. Best Wishes to REDS Everywhere. Richard TOF [The Oldest Fart], Connecticut, USA
Phil Neville talks about Italy and the team

Subject: Manchester United Reserves + Junior Teams Pontins/FA Premier Academy U-17/U-19 Updated 19/04/99 by Paul Hinson 1997-98 1998-99 AUGUST Thu 20 SUNDERLAND (H) - 0-0 SEPTEMBER Wed 2 ASTON VILLA (H) 1-0 4-0 (Wilson 2, Jaszczun og, Greening) Sat 5 Everton (A) 2-3 2-0 (Cruyff, Greening) Thu 17 BIRMINGHAM CITY (H) 2-0 3-2 (Sheringham 2, Cruyff) Fri 25 Liverpool (A) 2-2 2-0 (Notman, Cruyff) OCTOBER Thu 1 NOTTINGHAM FOREST (H) 1-1 1-0 (Cooke) Wed 14 BLACKBURN ROVERS (H) 2-2 3-2 (Greening 2, Wilson) NOVEMBER Tue 3 STOKE CITY (H) 4-2 4-1 (Notman, Wilson, Greening, Wood) Mon 16 Leicester City (A) - 6-2 (Greening 3, Wilson, Clegg, Wellens) DECEMBER Wed 2 Leeds United (A) 0-3 1-5 (Sheringham) Thu 17 Sunderland (A) - 0-2 JANUARY Wed 6 Aston Villa (A) 1-0 5-1 (Solskjaer 2, Cruyff, Greening, Mulryne) Tue 19 Derby County (A) 4-0 2-2 (Wilson, Nevland) Wed 27 DERBY COUNTY (H) 2-1 4-0 (Notman, Nevland, Chadwick, Wilson) FEBRUARY Wed 3 Birmingham City (A) 2-0 1-1 (Healy) Mon 8 Preston North End (A) 6-1 1-0 (Mulryne) Wed 24 Nottingham Forest (A) 1-0 1-1 (Clegg) MARCH Mon 15 Blackburn Rovers (A) 1-3 0-1 Mon 22 Stoke City (A) 2-1 1-3 (May) Sat 27 EVERTON (H) 7-0 3-0 (Fitzpatrick 2, O'Shea) APRIL Wed 14 LEICESTER CITY (H) - 0-2 Thu 22 LIVERPOOL (H) 0-1 Wed 28 LEEDS UNITED (H) 1-1 TBA PRESTON NORTH END (H) 5-2 First 3 and last 3 Home fixtures at Old Trafford, Kick-off 7pm. Remainder at Gigg Lane, Bury, Kick-off 7.00. All Saturday fixtures Kick-off 2pm. Fixtures subject to alteration. Appearances and Goals 1998-99 (up to and including 14/04/99) Kennedy BAKIRCIOGLOU 1 0 Henning BERG 2 0 Russell BEST 0+1 0 Jesper BLOMQVIST 3 0 Wes BROWN 6 0 Nicky BUTT 2 0 Chris CASPER 2 0 Luke CHADWICK 4+2 1 Michael CLEGG 18 2 Andy COLE 1 0 Terry COOKE 6+1 1 Jordi CRUYFF 7 4 Nick CULKIN 8 0 John CURTIS 14 0 Ian FITZPATRICK 3 2 Ryan FORD 9+1 0 Paul GIBSON 3 0 Jonathan GREENING 16+1 9 David HEALY 5+4 1 Danny HIGGINBOTHAM 3 0 Ronny JOHNSEN 1 0 David MAY 14 1 Philip MULRYNE 14 1 Phil NEVILLE 2 0 Erik NEVLAND 8+2 2 Alex NOTMAN 8+1 3 John O'SHEA 9+1 1 Lee ROCHE 3+1 0 Stephen ROSE 2+1 0 Michael RYAN 1+1 0 Teddy SHERINGHAM 3 3 Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER 1 2 Michael STEWART 4 0 Dominic STUDLEY 1 0 Paul TEATHER 6+2 0 John THORRINGTON 1+1 0 Raimond VAN DER GOUW 10 0 Ronnie WALLWORK 7+1 0 Richard WELLENS 7+3 1 Paul WHEATCROFT 0+1 0 Mark WILSON 17+2 7 Jamie WOOD 0+3 1 Jaszczun (Aston Villa) 1 og Pontins League Premier Division Results from last week: Stoke City 3 Everton 2 Birmingham City 1 Aston Villa 3 UNITED 0 Leicester City 2 Liverpool 3 Leeds United 2 Everton 0 Blackburn Rovers 0 Nottingham Forest 0 Sunderland 2 Preston North End 3 Derby County 1 All facts and figures updated by Paul Hinson P.L.Hinson@ais.salford.ac.uk Webmaster barry@www.red11.org PONTINS PREMIER LEAGUE P W D L F A Pts Sunderland (-) 21 12 6 3 40 16 42 UNITED (2) 21 12 4 5 44 25 40 Liverpool (10) 18 8 7 3 21 14 31 Nottingham Forest (11)19 8 6 5 26 19 30 Blackburn Rovers (3) 20 8 5 7 30 23 29 Leeds United (1) 20 8 3 9 35 35 27 Everton (7) 18 7 5 6 22 22 26 Aston Villa (4) 20 7 4 9 31 33 25 Leicester City (-) 20 6 5 9 25 36 23 Birmingham City (5) 20 5 7 8 24 29 22 Stoke City (6) 18 5 4 9 20 28 19 Preston North End (9) 17 4 4 9 15 32 16 Derby County (8) 20 3 6 1124 45 15 Last seasons position in brackets --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manchester Senior Cup MARCH Wed 10 Oldham Athletic (A) 3-2 (Greening, Sheringham, M.Clegg) Wed 31 Bury (A) 4-1 (May, O'Shea, Wilson, Fitzpatrick) APRIL Tue 6 Manchester City (A) 5-1 (Wilson 2, Healy, Greening, Ford) Fri 16 BURY (H) 2-4 (Healy, Wood) Mon 19 MANCHESTER CITY (H) MAY Wed 5 OLDHAM ATHLETIC (H) MANCHESTER SENIOR CUP TABLE P W D L F A Pts UNITED 4 3 0 114 8 9 Bury 5 2 0 39 10 9 Oldham Athletic5 2 0 38 9 6 Manchester City5 2 0 36 10 6 Venues/Kick-off times to be decided. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manchester United FA Premier Academy U-19 SEPTEMBER Sep 5 West Ham United (A) 0-3 Sat 12 DERBY COUNTY (H) 1-1 (Healy) Sat 19 WATFORD (H) 2-4 (O'Shea, Chadwick) Sat 26 WIMBLEDON (H) 4-0 (Healy 3, Chadwick) OCTOBER Sat 3 FULHAM (H) 4-0 (Healy 3, Evans) Sat 17 Manchester City (A) 4-1 (Evans, Healy, Clegg, Daly og) Sat 24 EVERTON (A) 1-0 (Knowles og) Sat 31 LIVERPOOL (H) 1-1 (Healy) NOVEMBER Sat 7 Bolton Wanderers (A) 2-1 (Wheatcroft, Ryan) Sat 14 Blackburn Rovers (A) 1-5 (Fitzpatrick) Sat 21 ASTON VILLA (H) 4-0 (Notman 3, Chadwick) Sat 28 CREWE ALEXANDRA (H) 2-1 (Howard, Fitzpatrick) DECEMBER Sat 12 MANCHESTER CITY (H) 1-0 (Fitzpatrick) JANUARY Sat 16 Liverpool (A) 1-1 (S Rose) Sat 30 BOLTON WANDERERS (H) 5-0 (Chadwick 2, Healy, Fitzpatrick, Howard) FEBRUARY Sat 6 EVERTON (H) 1-0 (Fitzpatrick) Sat 13 BLACKBURN ROVERS (H) 0-4 Sat 20 Aston Villa (A) 2-0 (Healy, Ryan) Sat 27 Crewe Alexandra (A) 0-1 MARCH Sat 6 Crystal Palace (A) 1-0 (Fitzpatrick) Sat 20 BRISTOL CITY (H) 1-2 (Wheatcroft) Sat 27 Sheffield Wednesday (A) 0-0 ----------------------------------- KNOCKOUT COMPETITION; APRIL Sat 17 MILLWALL (H) 4-1 (Chadwick 2, Evans, Fitzpatrick) CHELSEA ? Home fixtures played at the Cliff, Lower Broughton, Salford Appearances and Goals 1998-99 (up to and including 20/03/99) Luke CHADWICK 15+2 5 George CLEGG 12+2 1 Stephen COSGROVE 10+1 0 Jimmy DAVIS 1 0 Wayne EVANS 10+5 2 Ian FITZPATRICK 15+1 6 GAFF 1 0 David HEALY 10+1 11 Jason HICKSON 0+4 0 Kirk HILTON 13+1 0 Joshua HOWARD 9 2 Mark LYNCH 4 0 Alan MCDERMOTT 2 0 Allan MARSH 5+1 0 Alex NOTMAN 1 3 John O'SHEA 13+1 1 Paul RACHUBKA 17 0 Lee ROCHE 15 0 Stephen ROSE 14 1 Michael RYAN 11 2 Michael STEWART 15+1 0 Dominic STUDLEY 9+4 0 Mark STUDLEY 1 0 Marek SZMID 1 0 John THORRINGTON 8 0 Richard WELLENS 5 0 Paul WHEATCROFT 14+2 2 Lee WHITELEY 4+4 0 Neil WOOD 1 0 Daly (Manchester City) 1 og Knowles (Everton) 1 og --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manchester United FA Premier Academy U-17 SEPTEMBER Sep 5 West Ham United (A) 2-1 (Walker, Webber) Sat 12 DERBY COUNTY (H) 4-0 (Szmid, Muirhead, Rose, McDermott) Sat 19 WATFORD (H) 2-1 (Wood, Muirhead) Sat 26 WIMBLEDON (H) 5-0 (Webber, Grogan, Wood, Lynch, Davis) OCTOBER Sat 3 FULHAM (H) 9-0 (Webber 5,Davis,McDermott,Lynch,Whiteman) Sat 17 Manchester City (A) 2-0 (Davis, Webber) Sat 24 EVERTON (H) 3-2 (Webber, McDermott, Davis) Sat 31 LIVERPOOL (H) 2-2 (Lynch, Molloy) NOVEMBER Sat 7 WIMBLEDON (A) 1-1 (Webber) Sat 14 Blackburn Rovers (A) 2-0 (Webber, Davis) Sat 21 ASTON VILLA (H) 5-0 (Webber 2, McDermott, Davis, Samuels og) Sat 28 CREWE ALEXANDRA (H) 1-1 (Webber) DECEMBER Sat 12 MANCHESTER CITY (H) 4-0 (Webber 2, Davis, Molloy) JANUARY Sat 16 Liverpool (A) 3-3 (Davis 2, Webber) FEBRUARY Sat 6 Everton (A) 5-1 (Wood 2, Walker, Davis, M.Rose) Sat 13 BLACKBURN ROVERS (H) 1-1 (M.Rose) Sat 20 Aston Villa (A) 5-1 (Nardiello 2, Molloy, Wood, Clark) Sat 27 Crewe Alexandra (A) 1-1 (Strange) MARCH Sat 6 Crystal Palace (H) 3-0 (Wood 2, Davis) Sat 13 Tottenham Hotspur (A) 2-2 (Davis 2) Sat 20 BRISTOL CITY (H) 3-1 (Szmid, Muirhead, Davis) Sat 27 Sheffield Wednesday (A) 1-2 (Whiteman) ----------------------------------- Latest Match report with pics http://www.red11.org/miva/matchreports.mv Manchester United Reserves http://www.red11.org/mufc/pontin.htm Updated weekly by Paul Hinson 1200+ Manchester United Pics Index! http://www.red11.org/pics Webmaster Mail: barry@www.red11.org Url: http://www.red11.org World of Manchester United Football Club.
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Subject: As Juventus hit top form United are warned: One mistake and it's all over Juventus gave Alex Ferguson a weekend preview of the ruthless streak they will doubtless employ when Manchester United visit Turin on Wednesday. They went to Rome and demolished Lazio 3-1, and it is ominous for United that Juventus appear to be acquiring a taste for spiking the ambitions of opponents who have been coveting trophies for what seems like an eternity. With United it is their 31-year wait for a second European Cup. On Saturday it was Lazio's progress to their first Italian Championship for 25 years. The Rome club's Swedish coach Sven Goran Eriksson took a long, unhappy look yesterday at the destruction which 'new' Juve brought to his season and he grimaced at the task which faces United on Wednesday. He said: 'Manchester United have one chance to survive in Turin and that is to play without making a single error. If they cannot do that they will not succeed because Juventus kill you by the speed they turn your error into a goal. 'I'm not saying they are a lucky team but against us they definitely did not deserve to win. 'They scored with their very first shot, even though it was a mistake from our keeper, and that immediately made it very tough. 'Then we made a single mistake in midfield, lost the ball and they instantly turned that into a goal. 'Also, it will be a different Juve against United because they will bring so many good players back, including Paolo Montero who is one of the best defenders in Italy. 'The other man who makes them so difficult to defeat is Edgar Davids who is so strong physically and just takes control of the game. 'But I think Manchester United are a great team, improving just as the English game is getting stronger by the season. 'United share characteristics with Juve in the way that each is able to produce its optimum in matches like the semi-final this week. Both teams are used to handling the atmosphere in crucial games, they stay calm and never panic. They are so closely matched. 'What will be crucial is that if you ask Juventus what they feel about Wednesday they will tell you it is the single most important match they have had for years, because they're not going to win any other trophies this season.' Juventus utterly dominated the crucial phase of Saturday's game despite leaving Zinedine Zidane, Didier Deschamps, Montero and Gianluca Pessotto in the stand. They are not unbeatable, but it's important to recognise what spurs them on - their desperation to avoid ending the season trophyless. The players and staff also fear the indignity, and destruction of their summer holidays, which competing in the InterToto Cup would bring. Football is not always about talent; sometimes it's about timing. And the truth is that United could well find themselves at the wrong place at the wrong time in Turin on Wednesday.
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Subject: Old dog Sheringham still has the tricks to put bite on Juve Monday, April 19, 1999 Teddy Sheringham is too well-known to be thought of as a secret weapon. But he has emerged from winter hibernation as the player who can hold the key to Alex Ferguson's dream of domestic and European domination this season. While Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole cavorted together through the months of what they hope will become a history-making campaign, occasionally joined by Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Sheringham looked to have become a has-been. But in the past fortnight he has shaken off the slumbers enforced by injury and loss of form to prove he still has a vital role to play as Manchester United continue their attempt at the history-making treble of Champions League, FA Cup and Premiership. Ferguson insists he already knows his line-up to face Juventus on Wednesday night and Sheringham now figures strongly for the kind of leading role which many thought was beyond him at the age of 33. Yet, his comeback has been as impressive as it has been dramatic. It began with the final 12 minutes of the Champions League semi-final, first leg at Old Trafford when he replaced Yorke, scored a 'goal' that was disallowed and caused such consternation in the Juventus defence that a game they thought won was snatched from them by Ryan Giggs. It continued in last Wednesday's epic victory over Arsenal in the FA Cup semi-final replay when even the Highbury defence found that the old dog's old tricks still had something magical about them. And against Sheffield Wednesday Sheringham provided confirmation that his sophistication, intelligence and cunning remain intact as United eased through a practice match that was supposed to be a Premiership contest. The fact that Danny Wilson's side do not deserve even the Government's minimum wage, never mind their huge weekly salaries, for their dereliction of duty should not be allowed to detract from the contribution of the Old Trafford character actor who gave a bravura performance. He was far too subtle for Wednesday as he meandered into nooks and crannies to find the space from which to direct operations. At other times he took centre stage, scoring with a brilliant flick header and playing a part in the build-up to the other goals scored by Solskjaer and Paul Scholes. Later, manager Ferguson gave the clearest indication that Sheringham, though he has started a mere seven games this season, may be about to become a golden oldie, saying: 'I know we have to score at least once in Turin, but we can't afford to just chase the game, we have to show control and patience. 'I have a pretty clear idea of the team I'll play, but first I must analyse in my own mind what Juventus will do. I'm already certain they won't play for a 0-0. 'They're a high-class team and they'll try to beat us.' That estimation of how Juventus will approach the game all but ensures that Sheringham will be heavily involved at some stage and may even be given a pivotal role. Yorke and Cole, whom Ferguson expects to be fit after a slight ankle injury, are a fantastic sight when using their pace to destabilise a defence. But Juventus almost laughed in their faces at Old Trafford. Enter, stage left, Sheringham. Ferguson noted in that first game how his veteran managed to find space where before there seemed none, even in such a short period. He knows that helter-skelter tactics will invite disaster in Turin. He knows he needs a different, far more Machiavellian approach, and the studious Sheringham, with his ability to pull the right strings at the right time, has suddenly become extremely important. It was Sheringham's deft over-head kick that provided Solskjaer with his 17th goal of the season, a short-range jab that finished off Wednesday. For the rest of the time Sheringham and his colleagues simply toyed with them. The veteran headed the second just before the interval then delivered the ball which Scholes belted past Pavel Srnicek, one of the few Wednesday players to come out of the game with any honour. Ferguson can count on having Peter Schmeichel back for Wednesday after he damaged a groin against Arsenal. Denis Irwin also came on as United, finishing with almost a reserve side, went through the motions. But Giggs remains the big worry. He will spend the next 24 hours working on mobility and having treatment after picking up an ankle injury following his winner against Arsenal. Even with Sheringham back to his elegant best, the loss of the Welshman would be a savage blow to a side looking for a second miracle in a week.
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Subject: The Times defends Martin Here's a contrasting view to the Martin piss-take article posted by Dave Menashe earlier (BTW, Dave what was the source of that article?) You may start to feel a little nauseous as you read this article ... Matt Dickinson says that anger over moves to tighten the Old Trafford purse strings is misplaced Expensive tastes: United are not willing to plunge so heavily into the transfer market this summer after allowing Ferguson to spend ?28 million to recruit Stam, left, Yorke and Blomqvist Fans' criticism of United a bit rich For the crime of sharing a beer with Martin Edwards in a bar in Lodz late last year, the punishment was to be threatened with a bottle in the face. "How can you buy a drink for that traitor," the Manchester United fan snarled, his San Miguel brandished ever closer. In the best journalistic traditions, I made my excuses and left. The drinking holes will be out of bounds once again this week as the lynch mob reconvenes in even greater numbers in Turin. Some of the fans are on the warpath again and the United chairman, as much as the Juventus supporters, is at the top of their list. His crime, apart from becoming chairman in the first place, was to say that there will be no money available to Alex Ferguson this summer beyond that needed to replace Peter Schmeichel. "With spending £44 million over the next two seasons developing the ground to a capacity of 67,000 and also on the new training complex at Carrington there will be no more spending like last year [when £28 million purchased Jaap Stam, Dwight Yorke and Jesper Blomqvist]," Edwards said. "We have to make sure we do not go heavily into the red. It is not a bottomless pit, that is the reality of it." Cue howls of outrage. The criticism will be nothing new to Edwards, who hears little else, and there is no doubt that his timing could have been better. The club has just been named the richest in the world, with a turnover in 1997 of £87.94 million, and supporters want to look forward to the second leg of their European Cup semi-final against Juventus on Wednesday rather than hear tales of hard times. But it has reached the stage where the criticism of Edwards is as demented as the Manchester Evening News poll that demanded Ferguson be fired a year after securing the Double in 1994. It is a fact of life that supporters share no more affinity with a club's board than they do with their bank manager - the responsibility to be prudent makes both appear killjoys - but Edwards is facing a barrage of abuse that goes beyond reason and it is time that the fans acknowledged their good fortune instead. If their greatest desire is to see the best players coached by the best manager while they sit in the best ground in the country, then surely they are wallowing in the riches of Croesus at Old Trafford. And the man who has made it possible, if not through his own abilities then through astute delegation, is Edwards. It was the supporters, after all, who wanted Ferguson dumped in 1989, when the club was underachieving, and it was Edwards who, with the advice of his board, ensured that he stayed. The chairman has probably not been patted on the back too many times for that. "Sack him," they cried again when Ince, Hughes and Kanchelskis were sold, but, mercifully, sanity prevalied among the directors. It is the way of supporters that they want everything both ways, never more so than when it comes to Old Trafford financing. They want the club to be hugely successful, which Edwards ensured by launching it on the Stock Exchange, and yet they also want it run by some kindly benefactor with a bottomless pit of cash. Life, except at Ewood Park, is not like that. Those supporters conveniently ignore the fact that many of them were hardly rushing to put their funds into the club when the first share issue was met by an underwhelming response. So much for putting your money where your mouth is. Hindsight is a wonderful thing for those with axes to grind, so Edwards is still criticised for the proposed sale to Michael Knighton for £10 million a decade ago, never mind that it was Knighton, rather than Edwards, who was seen as the screwball at the time. Now he is attacked for accepting a £623 million offer from BSkyB - 40 per cent owned by News International, owner of The Times - that was legally impossible, never mind daft under any rationale, to resist. There are wider football arguments against the BSkyB takeover, but they make least sense of all from the mouths of United fans who may now, as Edwards's warning over transfer funds suggests, lose out. There will be more money to spend than he will admit and his gloomy forecast is more an irritated response to those supporters who opposed the BSkyB deal than a realistic assessment, but the point is made nonetheless - Rupert Murdoch would have allowed heavier spending on players. So, United will carry on with the same board until the next bid, probably a hostile one, and supporters can rest assured that it is in safe hands. Soaring wages, which have ruined other clubs, have been maintained at sensible levels. The best manager in the country will shortly become the highest-paid. Yet still Edwards cannot win. The supporters want big-money signings but whinge that Old Trafford is run more like a corporation than a football club. They complain that the ground needs expanding and yet, when the prices go up to pay for the work - and are still cheaper than many of their rivals' - the chairman is accused of a rip-off. Supporters say he should sell the club and, when he offers to, he is branded a traitor. Then there is the issue of his £90 million worth of shares, which the real supporter would, of course, happily donate to the club. Are they sure? Despite the fact that he knows more Manchester United trivia than half the Stretford End combined, Edwards will for ever have to live with the accusation that he is not a committed fan. He will probably be told it to his face this week in Turin. So it is no surprise to hear that he is increasingly tired of the day-to-day running of the club and may soon relinquish it for a place on the football board only. Then some other poor soul will become chief executive and get it in the neck for making United the most successful club in the country. It is a thankless task, even if it is a well-paid one.
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Subject: Brilliant take on Edwards What price European glory now? by Martin Samuel Had Michael Knighton been able to locate a wad of money slightly slimmer than that handed over for a new centre-half at Old Trafford last summer, it could all have been so different. Carlisle United might not now be stampeding towards the Conference, for starters. And Martin Edwards' share of the thwarted £623 million BSkyB bonanza would have been less than the going rate for a rusty satellite dish. Because he would have sold the richest club in the world to a passing juggler for ten million quid a decade ago. Edwards might talk about his dream and how it has been denied by spiteful fans and the Monopolies Commission. But that gem from history is the reality. In the recent memory of all but pre-teen supporters, he priced Manchester United at slightly less than Jaap Stam. And got away with it. If Knighton could have located the readies, Edwards' status would be that of football's answer to the A&R man at Decca records who rejected The Beatles on the grounds guitar bands were a thing of the past. As we approach the end of the century, a journalist might have knocked on the door of his Cheshire home. "Hello, Mr. Edwards. I'm from The Express. We're doing a feature on the biggest wally of the Millennium. I've already spoken to that bloke from Decca and Gerald Ratner and if I could have five minutes of your time I'd only be left with the fella who bought the Hitler diaries to do." The film 'How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying' could have been made for Edwards, whose greatest talent was in employing people to realise a potential he clearly did not see. And yet, this weekend, he has reinvented himself in interview - as the visionary, the captain of industry, the man who sits at Old Trafford plotting and planning his brilliant strategies, as opposed to a settler who finds gold on his land, waiting for the first stranger to hit town with an idea and a bankable cheque. He had a dream, apparently, that with Rupert Murdoch's millions Manchester United could be the best, most successful team in the land (he obviously wasn't concentrating when they won the Double twice without Murdoch's help a few years back - you know how distracting life can be in the world of high finance). He didn't know exactly how much BSkyB were to put in, but it was going to be, like, a lot. But now these nasty old fans have stirred the Monopolies Commission up and the whole thing is ruined and just for that no-one can have any players except a replacement for Peter Schmeichel all summer. Edwards didn't exactly stamp his little foot and lisp 'tho there!' at the end of his speech but he might as well have. Indeed, considering the childish tone of the whole outburst it wouldn't have surprised if he'd concluded the whole thing with the words: "And do you know something else? The goalkeeper we buy is going to be rubbish! "We'll get him from Nottingham Forest or Ecuador or somewhere like that. And he'll smell funny and keep llamas in the penalty box and have to keep going home to see his mum. Just because you wouldn't let Sky buy my club. See how you like it then." Yet the fans Edwards dislikes so much may have enabled him to stumble into even more money by accident. During the delayed takeover bid, Manchester United's share price rose above that offered by Sky and accepted by the board. The club was worth even more than Edwards had sold it for - some City analysts believe closer to a billion pounds, though a generally accepted figure is around £800m. It seems the chairman could have been, quite literally, selling Manchester United short again - as he did at the weekend with an announcement that can only drive a wedge between himself and the most important figure at Old Trafford, manager Alex Ferguson. When Ferguson is eventually dragged from his office at the training ground shortly before his 90th birthday, he will be able to drive past Old Trafford on his way to the retirement home and say to himself: "I built that." Because while Edwards claims the reason for spending restrictions on the field is a £44m ground improvement programme off it, he neglects to accept the only reason 67,000 people want to come to see Manchester United is the success given them by a remarkable manager, who, if he finds himself short-changed in the summer, has every right to wonder if he might not be better appreciated elsewhere. There is little doubt that without Ferguson's knowledge of the shortcomings of his squad last season and the investment to act on it, there would be no treble campaign this season. Ferguson replaced Gary Pallister with Jaap Stam, selected Dwight Yorke as the perfect foil for Andy Cole and, most importantly, brought in Jesper Blomqvist as cover for the injury-prone Ryan Giggs. The Swede has started 17 games for United this season - 12 Premiership, three Champions League, two FA Cup - and United have lost once and scored 42 goals in that sequence. He has come on as sub on eight further occasions and, without him, United would have very real problems going into Wednesday's game in Turin with Giggs still a doubt. He cost, in terms of the richest club in the world, small change - one third of Yorke's transfer fee, yet the treble might not be on without him. Now, on the other side of the pitch, Blomqvist II is needed. David Beckham's fitness levels might be the envy of all, but so were Roy Keane's until he got himself crocked in September and missed an entire season. Suppose Beckham had similar misfortune - or just a niggling hamstring. Where is his cover? And it is that sort of minor, yet vital, deal that Edwards, in a fit of pique, claims Ferguson will be denied. Not by him, of course. Oh no. Perish the thought. He had a dream, remember. And in that dream he - well, actually, someone else - gave Ferguson all he desired and United ruled planet football. So it's not Martin who has caused this cash crisis in La-La Land. It's you. The punters. The ones who turn up every week and pay money. Who sit on the M6 watching 40 quid's-worth of petrol burn away en route to Southampton. Who have helped create one of the most rapidly expanding business empires in the world. Who mill around the megastore on the off-chance a new duvet cover is on the market. You callous lot. How inconsiderate. Keep your noses out in future or we'll buy someone from City. We're not joking. Now leave us alone. Can't you see Martin Edwards has got a business to run?
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Subject: FERGIE TO LAND BOSNICH ? (Mirror) ASTON VILLA goalkeeper Mark Bosnich last night agreed to sign for Manchester United. By HARRY HARRIS The Aussie international had talks with United boss Alex Ferguson yesterday and a move will be sealed this summer. Bosnich will become one of the Premiership's top earners scooping £50,000-a-week when the deal goes through - but Villa will not a penny for the £5million-rated star under the Bosman ruling. However, Bosnich cannot officially sign for United until after the season has ended. And that will throw up an interesting situation as United must play Villa at Old Trafford on May 1 as part of their tough run-in for the title. Fergie has long been an admirer of Bosnich, just back in action after a lengthy lay-off through injury. He has been linked with a series of keepers - including Dutchman Edwin van der Sar, Argentine Carlos Roa plus Ipswich's Richard Wright and Neil Sullivan of Wimbledon - in his search for a long-term replacement for Peter Schmeichel. However, the Bosnich swoop could be the only big-money deal for United during the close season. Chief executive Martin Edwards reported before United's victory over Sheffield Wednesday that there was a block on the transfer kitty following the collapse of BSkyB's £623m takeover bid. Ferguson is already planning summer swoops to strengthen his squad for next season when the increased Champions League schedule will result in a possible 60-match season when added to domestic commitments. He had been banking on another £30m investment to follow on from last year's £28m splash on Dwight Yorke, Jaap Stam and Jesper Blomqvist. And sources inside Old Trafford had suggested last week that there would be no problem in handing Ferguson that kind of cash again to maintain United's position as European front runners. Now it looks as though Edwards has cut the purse strings to leave Ferguson and the United fans bemused. Ferguson said: "Martin Edwards has not said anything to me about money. To be fair I have not asked him about it, but I will be having a chat with him. The demands of the Champions League next season will be enormous and we will need more players to cope with it." Schmeichel confirmed he would be leaving Old Trafford, saying: "My decision to leave is final." And he added: "I gave them a full year to find a replacement. If they wanted to go and have a talk with Mark Bosnich they could." Choice Ferguson's main target has always been to get a new No.1 - and Bosnich has always been his first choice. The Villa star has been injured for most of the season and then hinted that he fancied a move to Italy - Serie A giants Roma were linked to a possible deal. Ferguson switched his attentions elsewhere and Dutch star van der Sar became front-runner along with Roa. The England call-up of Ipswich youngster Wright also caught Ferguson's notice as did the performances and Scotland selection of Sullivan. Ferguson had also planned to sign a young left-back, a midfielder schemer, right-wing cover for David Beckham and possibly a left-sided centre-half. Dreams of a mega-money move for Tottenham's England ace Sol Campbell have also been dashed unless there were player swaps involved.
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Subject: Please tell me I'm not dreaming... From: "Paul O'Farrell" Greetings Fellow Reds, Apologies to those who aren't in Sydney, but this snippet of news has left me speechless.... >>> Pre season tour 1999 *** Sydney 17/7 <<< Oh God, how I've longed for this moment. United WILL be here in Sydney. It sure aint Old Trafford, and I doubt United will field a full strength side, but even if it's a team of eleven Ralphie Milne's on crutches that'll do me :- )))) Sorry to ramble, it's probably boring for those of you lucky enough to go to OT, but this piece of news means so much to this exiled Red.... Cheers all !! Paul (N.R.T.F) Sydney Oz. ofarre@integral.com.au
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Subject: Ferguson furious as dubious offside decision subjects his team to Villa Park replay Extended semi riles United - Times BY OLIVER HOLT MANCHESTER UNITED 0 ARSENAL 0 after extra time THERE was finesse and there was finery at Villa Park yesterday afternoon, but both were relegated to subservience. Baser virtues triumphed in this FA Cup semi-final between the nation's two best sides and acquired a nobility of their own in the process. There was an occasional shimmy from Dennis Bergkamp, the odd piece of vision from the Dutchman that took the breath away and one run in the dying seconds of extra time that eliminated Roy Keane and Ronny Johnsen in a couple of mesmeric shuffles and seemed as if it might be about to settle the tie. There were some clever passes from Keane, too, and a brace of dipping, curling free kicks from David Beckham and Ryan Giggs that commanded awe because of their precision and power. They were like flowers planted on barren ground. This was a game of destructive beauty, a game where all creativity was lost. That extra-time run by Bergkamp was stifled by a lunging tackle from Gary Neville, Giggs's free kick was clutched by David Seaman and a late break by Fredrik Ljungberg foundered on the excellence of Peter Schmeichel. The one time that the ball did bulge the net, dispatched there by a fierce half-volley from Keane in the 39th minute, it was ruled out by a dubious offside decision that penalised Dwight Yorke, even though he was clearly not seeking to interfere with play. Alex Ferguson, the United manager, described the decision - which provoked fury among the United players - as "absolutely ridiculous". Keane explained why it angered his side so much. "We knew how tight it was going to be," he said. "We knew there was only ever going to be one goal in it. That's why we were so disappointed." More than anything, this was a game that relied on the apparently ageless excellence of the Arsenal defence for its inspiration. They were utterly unbreachable yesterday, neutralising Yorke and Andy Cole and reducing Beckham and Giggs to peripheral figures. At the heart of that defence, a back four that has conceded only 13 goals in the FA Carling Premiership this season, Tony Adams and Martin Keown played as well as they have done all year. Keown, in particular, was unyielding in the challenge, impossible to beat. On the rare occasion that United had half an opening, when they might have won one challenge in the opposing penalty area, Arsenal invariably won the second. If Adams was beaten, Keown was there to mop up, and vice versa. More often, they broke up play with a thudding tackle or a neat intervention. To make United's attacking task even harder, Patrick Vieira and Nelson Vivas worked away like demons in front of the defence, stopping their opponents from running directly at Adams and Keown. They were a formidable barrier. Even when Vivas was sent off five minutes into the first period of extra time, earning his second yellow card for elbowing Nicky Butt in the face, Arsenal breathed hard, regrouped and returned to the task. Only two minutes from the end, when Adams collided with Nigel Winterburn, did United have a clear opportunity, and Yorke dragged his shot wide from ten yards. That, in fact, was the game in microcosm. With Arsenal playing conservatively, looking to hit United on the break, the onus was on Ferguson's side to break them down. To do that, their forwards needed to be on top form, their finishing at its most clinical, but Cole and Yorke fell short of the performances that have made them such a feared partnership. Indeed, it was Arsenal who forced the few half-chances there were before the interval. Schmeichel had to arch his back to tip over a fierce header from Adams in the 25th minute and, ten minutes later, the Danish goalkeeper flung himself to his right to push out Bergkamp's shot after it had flown at him through a crowd of players. On the stroke of half-time, Yorke shot weakly and straight at Seaman after an exchange of passes with Cole. Then, after the break, Cole failed to convert an enticing cross from Gary Neville and, soon afterwards, struck a tame shot into the arms of Seaman after Giggs had released him in the centre. Nicolas Anelka, who had a subdued game, wasted a chance to break the stalemate three minutes from the end of normal time when he wriggled past Jaap Stam for the first time, but he sliced his shot high and wide. Both sides tired in the second period of extra time and the chances came in a flash flood as the game ebbed away. None of them were taken, leaving Ferguson, in particular, to rue his side's profligacy. "There was not much between the two sides," he said. "I think it was a predictable result, to be honest with you. We had enough chances to kill them off. We created more than them but we did not take them and that is why we have to go to a replay." It will take a mistake or a moment of brilliance to separate these sides on Wednesday. Yesterday, neither was forthcoming. MANCHESTER UNITED (4-4-2): P Schmeichel - G Neville, R Johnsen, J Stam, D Irwin (sub: P Neville, 85min) - D Beckham, R Keane, N Butt, R Giggs (sub: O G Solskjaer, 99) - D Yorke, A Cole (sub: P Scholes, 113). ARSENAL (4-3-3): D Seaman - L Dixon, M Keown, A Adams, N Winterburn - R Parlour, P Vieira, N Vivas - N Anelka (sub: Kanu, 100), D Bergkamp, M Overmars (sub: F Ljungberg, 90). Referee: D Elleray. ------------------------------------ Matt Dickinson says the boys of the old brigade who constitute Arsenal's defence continue to amaze by their resilience Adams presents indestructable barricade If Tony Adams is the Doctor of Defence, as his manager claims, then yesterday he allowed the rest of us a glance at his thesis. The Arsenal captain has produced some immense performances for club and country over more than a decade, but few can have equalled this colossal display. Some of his tackles would have stopped the traffic. He must have been that good to have narrowly pipped Martin Keown to this observer's man-of-the-match award. With some justification, Keown has complained recently that he has not been recognised as a defender of international calibre. So here goes. Martin, you are a great defender but Tony, I am afraid, is still that little bit better. In tandem, and with Nigel Winterburn, Lee Dixon and David Seaman in their own resolute mood, the safest bet yesterday was that not even the country's most prolific attack would be capable of breaching England's most steadfast defence. The reduction to ten men, when Nelson Vivas was rightly dismissed four minutes into extra time, only made Arsenal's stubbornness more certain. The resilience is in the blood. Adams threw himself into tackles with an enthusiasm that belied his 32 years and dodgy ankles, as well as embarking on the odd rampage upfield. At one point in the first half, he charged forward with such unlikely speed that he appeared to have got on the end of his own clearances and he, more than anyone, did not deserve to lose this game. There have been times this season when the pain in his legs has prompted talk of retirement and he will prove irreplaceable when the day eventually comes. They will clear the marble halls of Highbury for another bronze bust. With Patrick Vieira and Roy Keane matching each other in magnificence in midfield and both attacks sporadic in their effectiveness, this was the sixth meeting in succession in which United have found themselves unable to overcome their sternest rivals. It is a run of four defeats and two draws that stretches back to February 1997 and, in the minds of the United players, the little doubts must have started to become self-fulfilling. Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole must feel as though they are banging their heads, as well as their shots, against a brick wall. Arsenal will certainly have left Villa Park in the jauntier mood. Without the burden of a European campaign to distract them, they will feel that the return of Emmanuel Petit from his three-match suspension for the replay on Wednesday will give them a slight edge. They appeared less willing than United to gamble on throwing bodies forward yesterday, but the Frenchman's versatility will allow them to do so in greater numbers. Perhaps by Wednesday, Nicolas Anelka will have been taught the rules of offside. And, of course, there will still be that back four to protect David Seaman, provided that they have all recovered from the aches and pains that prove more reluctant to depart by the year. Winterburn, 35, was bleeding from his chest early on after a strong challenge from Beckham and finished extra time clutching his toes as cramp set in. Meanwhile, Dixon, 35, could barely muster the energy to clear the ball past the halfway line. It was left to Keown and Adams to carry them through, a task they performed with remarkable calm as well as courage. "They are tough, they are intelligent and they will recover for Wednesday," Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, said. "They will make it. They have made if before. We had our usual resilience and organisation and we needed the brilliance at the back. We are still in the FA Cup because of our defence." He could not have put it better.
Phil Neville talks about Italy and the team

Subject: NEVILLE HAS MIND ON ITALIAN JOB Gary Neville is playing mind games to crank up the pressure on Juventus ahead of Wednesday's Champions' League showdown. In a ploy manager Alex Ferguson would be proud of, Neville insists the advantage lies with Manchester United going into the semi-final return. Neville reckons Juventus could rue the chances they missed in the first leg at Old Trafford before Ryan Giggs scored in stoppage time to salvage a 1-1 draw. He believes Giggs' goal has put United right back in contention and he is confident they can score in Turin's Stadio delle Alpi to complete another Italian job. ''I think we probably came out of the first leg feeling a bit better than Juventus did because they had led 1-0 until the 89th or 90th minute and then we scored to dampen their spirits,'' he said. ''They had chances in the first half to make it two or three so in those terms we've come out of the game a lot better. ''We hope we can take the form we showed in the second half into this game and play with the passing and movement we know we can. We want to get our forward lads going again because we know if we get the ball into them, they will score goals for us.'' United limbered up for their biggest game in two years by strolling past an awful Sheffield Wednesday side at Old Trafford. After reading the riot act to his side, Owls boss Danny Wilson agreed with Neville that United have a good enough goal threat to win for the first time in Italy. ''I think they've got a great chance of going through,'' he insisted. ''You can't write off a team with the talent Manchester United have, which I think some are doing. When you've got the likes of Dwight Yorke, Andy Cole, Teddy Sheringham, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Nicky Butt and Paul Scholes, who can all score goals, they've got to be a threat. ''I don't think Juventus will count their chickens too early, but I hope they do because if they think it's a foregone conclusion, they might just get a surprise.'' Ferguson is confident of leading United to their first European Cup final in 31 years because of the side's immense fire power. His biggest problem could be deciding who to play up front. He rested Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole, who has had an ankle problem, for the game against Wednesday because he feels they are going through ''a flattening out period''. Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer started for the second game running and they netted a goal apiece in the first half before Paul Scholes completed the scoring on 62 minutes. Sheringham, in particular, looked sharp and his glancing header was his 250th senior goal. Ferguson claims he has a ''good idea'' which two will face Juventus. ''I've a fair idea of what my team will be,'' he said. ''I've got to analyse in my own mind what I think Juventus might do and that has a bearing on how I will set my team up. I think Juventus are a high-class team who will try and beat us. I would just like to have all my players fit to make sure I'm picking the right team.'' Ferguson should have his wish and apart from knee ligaments victim Henning Berg, Giggs is his only injury worry. The Welsh international has dispensed with his crutches and is in a race against the clock to recover from his ankle injury. He was due to start jogging yesterday and Ferguson said: ''We're just waiting on Ryan and he is doubtful.'' United came through Saturday's game unscathed which was hardly surprisingly because it was played with all the intensity of a testimonial. No-one was booked, which says it all, although Wilson insisted this was not because Wednesday hope to finish top of the Fair Play league and possibly earn a European place. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' FERGIE - UNITED MUST SPEND MONEY EVEN WITHOUT BSKYB Alex Ferguson could be at odds with his chairman Martin Edwards over money for new signings this summer. Manchester United supremo Edwards claims the collapse of BSkyB's takeover bid could severely reduce Ferguson's transfer kitty. Edwards claims the world's richest club is strapped for cash because they are spending £44m on redeveloping Old Trafford and building a new training complex. Edwards had been banking on extra revenue from BSkyB and he now admits Peter Schmeichel's replacement may be the only new face this summer. Ferguson claims he has not discussed his close-season spending plans with Edwards, but he believes he will need an even bigger squad next season to cope with the demands of the expanded Champion's League. ''He (Edwards) had not said anything to me about money and in fairness I haven't asked him,'' said Ferguson. ''So it's something I can't answer until I have a chat with the chairman himself. But in the context of next season the demands of the Champions' League are going to be enormous. We're going to have to have a squad of players to cope with that. Young players like (Wes) Brown and (Jonathan) Greening could augment the squad, but you're definitely going to need a lot of players. ''You hope to get through the stages of the league and that's 12 games immediately. With Premiership games that's 50 matches before you even talk about another Cup tie. So you can see how the resources get drained.'' Edwards accepts Ferguson's point that he needs a huge squad, but he insists there will be no repeat of last summer's £28m spending spree on Jaap Stam, Jesper Blomqvist and Dwight Yorke. ''We're spending £44m over the next two seasons developing the Stretford end and scoreboard end to expand the capacity to 67,000 and also the new training complex at Carrington,'' he said. ''That was committed before the Sky bid came in and we had to make sure we don't go heavily into the red. It isn't a bottomless pit and that's the reality of it. We will have to replace Peter Schmeichel, but that might be the end of our spending this summer. ''There were no figures mentioned about how much money Sky would pump into the club. However, we believe for some reason that they would have supported the board with what they wanted to do. Obviously nobody is going to write you out a blank cheque but the resources could have been better.''
Phil Neville talks about Italy and the team

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