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Date: Fri Oct 15 GMT+00:00 1999
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This Issue:
1. Heroes and Villains - Personal Match Report by RED KELLY
2. Don't Believe What The Seagulls Say" - Personal Match Report by 'The Old Fart'
3. MEN -  Manchester United News - Young guns misfire
4. Keane/May return boost «« 
5. Reds await World Club opponents «« 
6. Fergie takes the flak!! «« 



Barry Comment:
The injury crisis could well be on the turn. Back this weekend Keano, May 
and Giggs. Imminent could well be Gary Neville & Jesper Blomqvist.
Now for the start of another unbeaten run?!

Message from Graphics Designer Justin at http://www.red11.org
I've done a Fergie Years tribute wallpaper for the world to enjoy...Hope you
like.....and include in daily news as the timing for a tribute wallpaper is
updated with the testimonial: Now running at:  http://www.red11.org/alex
or direct url -

Book Note from Pete - Thanks Buz!
I found myself in Bolton this afternoon (well someone has to - don't they?)
and decided to take Paul Buz's advice about the ECF video. Whilst I was in
there I noticed a book called 'The Unseen Archives - A photographic history
of Manchester United'. It is 384 pages of pictures (a few articles and
stats) and is quite excellent. It costs only (GBP) 9.99. An absolute
bargain. So thanks Buz.
Cheers,    Pete   http://www.cheswem.u-net.com/

ECL Group D  ** Manchester United **
Olympique de Marseille * NK Croatia Zagreb * SK Sturm Graz

Manchester United FC Champions League Squad List
 1 Mark John Bosnich      2 Gary Alexander Neville 3 Dennis Joseph Irwin
 4 David May              6 Jakob Stam             7 David Robert J Beckham
 8 Nicholas Butt          9 Andrew Alex. Cole      10 Edward Sheringham
11 Ryan Joseph Giggs     12 Philip Neville         14 Johan Jordi Cruyff
15 Lars Jesper Blomqvist 16 Roy Keane           17 Raimond RJH Van der Gouw
18 Paul Scholes          19 Dwight Yorke           20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 Henning Berg          23 Michael Jamie Clegg    25 José Quinton Fortune
26 Massimo Taibi         31 Nicholas James Culkin  33 Mark Antony Wilson
34 Jonathan Greening

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Previous News:
 BSKYB Takeover news/pics at http://www.red11.org/mufc/bskyb.htm
  Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
 Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!

*** PREM FIXTURES ON 16/10/99 ***
             Arsenal  v  Everton
       Coventry City  v  Newcastle United
        Derby County  v  Tottenham Hotspur
        Leeds United  v  Sheffield Wednesday
      Leicester City  v  Southampton
           Liverpool  v  Chelsea
   Manchester United  v  Watford
           Wimbledon  v  Bradford City

*** FIXTURES ON 17/10/99 ***
       Middlesbrough  v  West Ham United

Pos Team                  P   W   D   L   F   A   GD  Pts
 1  Leeds United         10   7   1   2  19  12    7   22
 2  Manchester United    10   6   3   1  23  15    8   21
 3  Sunderland           10   6   2   2  18   8   10   20
 4  Chelsea               8   6   1   1  15   3   12   19
 5  Arsenal              10   6   1   3  13   9    4   19
 6  Everton              10   5   2   3  16  10    6   17
 7  Leicester City       10   5   2   3  17  13    4   17
 8  Aston Villa          10   5   2   3  11   9    2   17
 9  West Ham United       8   5   1   2  11   6    5   16
10  Tottenham Hotspur     9   4   2   3  16  14    2   14
11  Middlesbrough        10   4   0   6  11  15   -4   12
12  Liverpool             9   3   2   4  10  10    0   11
13  Southampton           9   3   2   4  16  19   -3   11
14  Coventry City        10   2   3   5  12  14   -2    9
15  Watford              10   3   0   7   6  11   -5    9
16  Derby County         10   2   3   5  10  18   -8    9
17  Wimbledon            10   1   5   4  14  23   -9    8
18  Bradford City         9   2   2   5   4  13   -9    8
19  Newcastle United     10   2   1   7  20  23   -3    7
20  Sheffield Wednesday  10   1   1   8   8  25  -17    4

16-OCT-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Watford  (FA Premier League, HOME)
19-OCT-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Marseille  (UEFA Champions League, AWAY)
24-OCT-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Spurs  (FA Premier League, AWAY)
27-OCT-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs NK Croatia  (UEFA Champions League, AWAY)

The line-up for the testimonial game is:
Eric Cantona		Peter Schmeichel
Zinedine Zidane		Gabriel Batistuta
Paul Gascoigne 		Juninho
George Weah		Alessandro Costacurta
Christian Ziege		Lillian Thuram
Roberto Mancini		John Collins


UNITED Stats v All teams:
ALL FIXTURES at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix992000.htm
First Team Fixtures 1999/2000
All dates/times subject to change
Dates of possible cup ties also shown

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/07/99    Melbourne Australia   pre-season  W  2-0     -    60,000
18/07/99    Sydney    Australia   pre-season  W  1-0     -    78,000
21/07/99    Shanghai  Shenhua     pre-season  W  2-0     -    80,000
24/07/99    Hong Kong South China pre-season  W  2-0     -    40,000

 1/08/99    Arsenal   Wembley Charity Shield  L  1-2     -    70,185
 3/08/99    Omagh Town Omagh Bomb Fund        W  9-0     -     7,000
 4/08/99    Wigan Athletic friendly           W  2-0     -    15,000 
08/08/99    Everton                  Away PL  D  1-1    10    39,141
11/08/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Home PL  W  4-0     3    54,941
14/08/99    Leeds United             Home PL  W  2-0     1    55,187
22/08/99    Arsenal                  Away PL  W  2-1     1    38,147
25/08/99    Coventry City            Away PL  W  2-1     1    22,024 
27/08/99    Monaco - Lazio               ESC  L  0-1     -    15,223
30/08/99    Newcastle United         Home     W  5-1     1    55,190
11/09/99    Liverpool                Away     W  3-2     1    44,929
14/09/99    Croatia Zagreb           Home EC  D  0-0     -    53,250
18/09/99    Wimbledon                Home     D  1-1     1    55,189
22/09/99    Sturm Graz               Away EC  W  3-0     -    16,480
25/09/99    Southampton              Home     D  3-3     1    55,249
29/09/99    Marseille                Home EC  W  2-1     -    54,276
 3/10/99    Chelsea                  Away PL  L  0-5     2    34,909
11/10/99    Sir Alex testimonial     Home F   L  2-4   [RED LEGENDS]      
13/10/99    Aston Villa              Away WC3 L  0-3     -    33,815

16/10/99    Watford                  Home PL   15.00
19/10/99    Marseille                Away EC   19.45 
23/10/99    Tottenham Hotspur        Away PL   15.00 
27/10/99    Croatia Zagreb           Away EC   19.45
30/10/99    Aston Villa              home PL   15.00
 2/11/99    Sturm Graz               Home EC   19.45 
 6/11/99    Leicester City           Home PL   15.00
20/11/99    Derby County             Away PL   15.00
24/11/99    ?     EC
27/11/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Away PL   15.00
30/11/99    Tokyo  Palmeiras         WCC       20.00
 4/12/99    Everton                  Home PL   15.00
 8/12/99    ?     EC
11/12/99    FAC 3 Will not enter ...
18/12/99    West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
26/12/99    Bradford City            Home PL   15.00
28/12/99    Sunderland               Away PL   20.00  "live on sky"
 3/01/2000  Middlesborough           Home PL   20.00

 ***** 5-14 /01/2000 Brazil WTC  *****   [3-4 games]

*  8/01/2000  FAC 4 Will not enter ...
15/01/2000  Leeds United             Away PL   15.00
22/01/2000  Arsenal                  Home PL   15.00
* 29/01/2000  FAC 5 Will not enter ...
 5/02/2000  Coventry City            Home PL   15.00
12/02/2000  Newcastle United         Away PL   15.00
* 19/02/2000  FAC 6 Will not enter ...
26/02/2000  Wimbledon                Away PL   15.00
 1/03/2000  ?   EC
 4/03/2000  Liverpool                Home PL   15.00
 8/03/2000  ?   EC
11/03/2000  Derby County             Home PL   15.00
15/03/2000  ?   EC
18/03/2000  Leicester City           Away PL   15.00
22/03/2000  ?   EC
25/03/2000  Bradford City            Away PL   15.00
 1/04/2000  West Ham United          Home PL   15.00
 5/04/2000  ?   EC qf i
 8/04/2000  Middlesborough           Away PL   15.00
*  9/04/2000  FAC sf Will not enter ...
15/04/2000  Sunderland               Home PL   15.00
19/04/2000  ?   EC qf ii
22/04/2000  Southampton              Away PL   15.00
24/04/2000  Chelsea                  Home PL   15.00
29/04/2000  West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
 3/05/2000  ?   EC sf i
 6/05/2000  Tottenham Hotspur        Home PL   15.00
10/05/2000  ?   EC sf ii
14/05/2000  Aston Villa              Away PL   15.00
* 20/05/2000 Wembley FAC f Will not enter ...
24/05/2000  ?    EC f



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Subject: Heroes and Villains - Personal Match Report by RED KELLY When you buy a ticket for the Worthington Cup you know you are going to be watching the reserves, that doesn't make any difference to the opposition support though - they are only too pleased to display their unbelievable small mindedness and immeasurable delight in beating "Man U". So it was at Villa Park last night when their fans showed their true colours and the increasing gulf of class between them and us, by screaming like the demented fools they have become as their team bullied their way to a 3-0 win over a bunch of kids, most of whom were 20 years of age or younger. It was around 6 o'clock when I was picked up and taken to one of the few 'local' games I get to in any one season and an hour later we had negotiated the traffic jam on the M6 and were parked up and slurping down a couple of cans in readiness. Twenty minutes later we were on our way to the ground walking down the hill among over excited Villa fans who were trying very hard to be humourous with their false Cockney accents trying to take the piss out of "Man U". Sorry chaps - it didn't quite work as the poor Brummie has absolutely no chance of putting on any other accent other than Brummie, but they still couldn't understand why we were laughing at them. Inside Villa Park it seemed as though United had eventually sold all the seat allocation as we walked the length of our bit searching for our seats which were on the very back row. It seemed as though our seats had been double booked, but everyone nudged along a bit and it really didn't matter as we were all standing anyway. There was an announcement suggesting, "would all Manchester United supporters please sit down" but no-one did and that was the end of it. The stewards were constantly parading up and down behind us but none of them even tried to do anything about our anarchy. There were a few kids by us and we were stood behind a lad in one of those strange red and black hat thingys with points on top that the daft Dane Leeming or Gumbie Roberts might choose to wear - it was that daft! His father was concerned that we could see as the lad was stood on his seat - we told him he'd have to stand sideways so that we could see through the points on top of his hat which made him look like a rooster. The teams came out with Ole leading the way. I can't think of any other person who was more worthy of the captain's armband than Ole except maybe Bosnich - just to wind up the Villa fans! I don't think the honour did Ole any favours though as he was too busy taking his responsibilities to heart and looking after his charges, which left us light up front. I assume Sheringham would have played had he not suffered a knock on Monday and think if he had things just might have ben different as his experience up front would have helped take the pressure off Ole's shoulders. The lads were very nervous at first and we feared the worst as Villa attacked constantly. The main point of their attacks seemed to be directly in front of us down the Villa left where Michael Clegg went missing time after time. His enthusiasm for going forward meant that if Villa lobbed the ball over the top and out left the on-rushing attacker would suddenly find himself in acres of space and United's goal exposed. Just as I thought we were getting it together Joachim turned Curtis and curled a superb shot past Bozzy. Suddenly you'd have thought they'd won the bloody European Cup as they went berserk on and off the pitch. Taylor came muscling into the goalmouth past Bosnich and blasted the ball against the post and gestured towards us. Before then we had accepted the fact we were watching the reserves, but that changed everything for me. I felt and showed anger and disgust at the pathetic show of ego and from then on viewed the game from a different perspective. The Holte End sang "Bozzy, Bozzy what's the score" and "stand up if you hate Man U" and we sang "stand up if you hate Man U". They don't get it do they! The lads gave as good as they got for the rest of the half and came very close to an equaliser as Greening and Chadwick jinked their ways through the Villa defence. At our end Bosnich showed his class and made a couple of outstanding saves which endeared him to me at least. Every time he took a goal kick there would be a crescendo of noise - from them boos, and from us cheers. He coped with their taunts of "you fat b.....d" and to be honest he'd slimmed down considerably from his previous porkiness. The kids never stopped trying to play football whereas Villa often resorted to bullying tactics they were assured of succeeding with, as it was definitely men against boys. Shotgun Gregory was patrolling the touchline sucking furiously on his lollipop and barking out orders to his bruiser boys as they were crashing into every blue shirt that moved leaving several prostrate on the ground clutching various parts of their bodies. It was a wonder none of them got seriously hurt, but they reached half time with their pride still in tact. Throughout the first half and in fact the whole game Bosnich encouraged and talked with his defence and as he walked off the pitch at half time he had his arm around John O'Shea while still egging him on. We had arranged to meet the lap dancing Jon Leigh at half time by the cafe at the entrance, but found a row of stewards blocking our way through at the back. Undeterred we made our way down the terracing by the pitch where we found another line of stewards blocking our way. I haven't got a clue why they'd decided to effectively halve the stand and prevent anyone form crossing the line and I doubt whether they had either. I asked them if they would let us through but they steadfastly refused so I told them I had to meet my wife at the opposite corner and they relented and also allowed Clive to follow me after I'd told them "he's with me". It was all a lie of course and I'm not sure what they made of Clive saying he had to meet my wife as well, but we were through anyway and just then, along came Jon with Pete and Hal in tow. We made our way over to the corner anyway when Nigel appeared as well having bluffed his way through the blockade. It seems these guys are easily fooled!! We all agreed that none of the lads had let either us or themselves down and that in particular Chadwick would make the grade as soon as Fergie wanted him to. Nigel had decided at half time that he could no longer stand to be in the same quiet place he was for the first half so was crammed into our space where he seemed a lot more content as at least there was some singing going on. At the start of the second half Ole was put through and seemed to be about to make the scores level when he dallied too long and a saving tackle was made. Ole stood there head in hands and we wondered what might have been as soon afterwards there was a mix up down the other end and Taylor scored their second. Mass delirium followed and much Bozzy baiting, but he was unmoved and even managed to wind up his former fans. The kids continued to hold their own. There were a couple of substitutions one of which brought David Healy on and with his first touch he very nearly scored after another great passing move. The shape of the team looked better with him on the right, Chadwick on the left and Greening more central and between them they caused some considerable alarm in the Villa defence. It was to their credit that none of the lads let their heads drop but as the extra time board showed two minutes we were hoping for a miracle. Just as I was saying to the others how superb it would be to see a goal, bloody Steve, bloody Stone went and scored for them to make it three. I had meant a goal for us you shithead. My dreams of a 2-2 scoreline, extra time, and a last penalty saved by Bozzy were now mere dreams as the final whistle blew and we stayed to applaud our boys off the pitch. They aren't the class of '92 but there are one or two or maybe three or even four of these lads who wouldn't look out of place in the Premiership. They need more experience and more strength, but the likes of Luke Chadwick could step up as Giggs' deputy right now. Young Healy impressed too with good touch and balance - he looked a lot like Ben Thornley and plays with the same promise before Ben's injury ruined his United future. Both those lads are only 19. Curtis (just 21) and O'Shea (only 18) did well in the centre of defence against some over enthusiastic bruising forwards. Ronnie Wallwork (just 22) looked good in midfield and Greening (20) showed some great skill up front. And the old man - captain Solskjaer - well what more can we say about someone who won us the Holy Grail, he always has been and always will be a special player for me and I suspect for everyone else too. We may have lost 3-0 last night but I enjoyed my rare opportunity to see these lads play before they make the first team and there was enough promise there to suggest that one or two of them may be called up sooner rather than later and then we'll see if the class of '99 can compete with the class of '92. As we left the stadium the results from elsewhere brought the smiles back to our faces as we learned of the last minute winner that beat the scouse and the Villagers from Chelsea losing at home to Huddersfield. But one last thing I'd like to mention is the Barca type bruising to the back of my legs that's appeared this morning - now that takes me back - again!! Postscript: At just after midday today there was due to be an unveiling of a statue in Dudley market place to commemorate of one of the most celebrated of young footballers ever to grace the shirt of Manchester United - Duncan Edwards. If any of the lads on view last night grow up to be half the footballer Duncan was then I will be more than happy. Copyright RED KELLY 1999
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Subject: "Don't Believe What The Seagulls Say" - Personal Match Report by 'The Old Fart' - Personal Match Report by 'The Old Fart' I don't write match reports for the first team simply because SALFORD LASS and RED KELLY already do it - and do it better. I've read some of the Daily Seagull match reports this morning. In addition the team comprised the reserve team (MY team - as far as reporting goes) so I feel justified. Hope nobody minds me venturing into the first team area for just this one match! One of the problems which those Listees residing without the UK have is that their main source of information is seagull reports. (As it happens seagull reports underpin my recent List difficulties). If any of you read the seagull reports from last night's match the picture you will get will bear NO relation to that which actually took place. Last night I was PROUD to be a supporter of Manchester United. Before I was a 'thinking Red', (Sir) Matt staggered the footballing world by playing a team consisting of boys. In those days a player was not considered first team material until he was in his early/middle twenties. (Sir) Matt changed all that. Last night was simply a case of Sir Alex the Wizard continuing that (successful) theme. Forget the seagull bollocks about Manchester United showing 'disregard' for this most 'Worthless' of cup competitions, this was Sir Alex taking a number, a large number, of young boys up another level. Let me tell you that they did NOT let either Sir Alex, Manchester United, the supporters of Manchester United OR the memory of the wonderful Sir Matt down, for one second. They were magnificent and a credit to the Red shirt. Aston Villa were a disgrace and so were their supporters. I have always had a soft spot for Villa fans and, indeed, for Villa Park, my favourite away ground. Villa fans have always been dedicated, even during their very dark days (and dark they were indeed) and have shown a reasonable 'balance' over the years. Not last night. Aston Villa played a full strength side, comprising some very, very experienced and seasoned professionals. Nothing wrong with that at all. But then these (so called) professional set about attempting to kick our young and totally inexperienced boys out of the game. The worst transgressor was Dion Dublin (he should, this morning, hang his head in total shame) and Dion HAD to walk when he struck a Manchester United player right at the end (his second 'yellow' - the referee, as I predicted at the time, choosing to take NO action, when he should have booked both players and thus sent Dublin from the field - and there are those on this List who call me paranoid - they have not got a clue). Dublin put his studs down Higginbottom's thigh in the first ten and later elbowed another lad. He was a thug throughout and I was disgusted with him. Bosnich really did lose his rag and was complaining to the referee constantly about the Villa behaviour. The referee, as you would expect (or as I would expect), did b......s all to protect our boys. Indeed the first 'yellow' was to Curtis for a non-challenge (paranoia?). Before the match my dad said he felt we would lose and so did I. After ten minutes dad said "We'll be lucky to get away less than six" - I agreed. With twenty to go dad said "Our kids look tired and the Villa strength should tell" - he was right. Except both he and I were wrong! For the fifteen minute spell from that point we were far and away the stronger and better side. At that point a draw was NOT beyond us. Their third was an outrage and totally unmerited. That third was my only disappointment last night. 1. Bosnich - dad said "Has he lost a bit do you think?" and I agreed. I think he's shed at least a stone (might not miss another half) and he looks much better for it. For those of you who have never played the game let me tell you that lack of fitness (through being overweight) affects the MIND just as much as it affects the body. For a keeper this is a disaster situation because their's is a 'mind' role. He had a good game last night. The no-mark, small time, Villa fans baited him for the full ninety - he did not let that affect him and made three quite excellent saves. 2. Clegg - I hate to say it but this lad is not going to make it. The powers-that-be at Old Trafford think he will so I'm bound to be wrong (as I always have been) but he just doesn't demonstrate enough of the basics to suggest he is up to it. His first touch is..... well it's non-existent. Our Bert has a better first touch when I throw him one of his toys. Simple as that. 3. Higginbottom - the last time we had seen him with the big lads was at Barnsley and he had a cracker - last night he was excellent again. He was on the receiving end of some dreadful and totally unjustified thuggery and kept his head. This kid, it is suggested (ie from Belgium), has a suspect temperament and the Villa s**thouses 'tried him out' - he passed the test with flying colours and I was delighted both with, and for, him. He had to go off in the second half when he was clattered for the umpteenth time. He didn't complain - just got on with his work. Good lad this. 4. O'Shea - did NOTHING wrong. I said to dad beforehand that he would be tested by Dublin's power in the air and Joachim's pace - he was NOT found wanting in ANY department. He was my man of the match - although every one of the boys was a star. 5. Curtis - as I said recently I think this lad is more comfortable (in his mind) when he plays in the centre of defence and not on the flank. In the centre you can see the play slightly easier than when wide. He had a good game last night and was very mobile across the back line. I thought he did very well against Joachim - a player with both guile and pace. 6. Wallwork - worked his socks off. Simple as that. This lad has a good engine and really does compete for the ninety. 7. Greening - ran the line very well and never stopped running. It has to be said that little of what he did came to much but then he was up against a good defence. His mobility is excellent and he was constantly 'showing' for the ball. 8. Twiss - like Ronnie he worked very hard indeed. The fact that we 'contained' Villa is to his great credit. He was tireless in midfield. He was on the receiving end of dreadful treatment and had to go off in the second half as a result. He also looked very, very tired, which is not a surprise when you know how much work he got through. 9. Ole - a man (although he still looked the youngest on the field!) amongst a lot of boys. Little Ole had a great game, running the line with Greening and bringing others into the game. Like Greening (and Cruyff) most of what he did came to nought but that does not take anything away from the lad's contribution. He should have scored right at the start of the second half (which would have made the score 1-1 and would have led to our winning the game) but he delayed his shot and lost the chance. That was the only disappointment. 10. Cruyf - like the other lad's he worked very, very hard. Those of you who have been on the List for a while will remember me commenting upon his performance in the Worthless cup at Filbert Street a couple of years ago when I reported that I would, that night, have paid his airfare home myself (so disgusted, was I, with his lack of effort in the Red shirt) - well last night was the complete opposite of that. He ran his arse off and you can ask for NO more of any player. He, once again, earned my respect and went up in my admiration. 11. Chadwick - only a few days ago I asked (rhetorically) if this kid might make the step up in the absence of Giggs and Jesper. I did not think he was ready. I was wrong. For forty-five last night he was absolutely excellent. He gave us width and also supplied some excellent crosses. When talking to dad recently I described Luke as "being like Nobby Clarke", now most of you will never have heard of Nobby Clarke but he was a winger for Manchester City in the 50's and ran with his head looking at his toes. Chadwick is exactly the same and MUST learn to lift his head. But that notwithstanding he made the big step up last night and acquitted himself very, very well. He is ready in my opinion. In the second half he tired a bit and that is understandable. He was using physical and, more significantly, mental energy and he had every right to be knackered in the second half. He had a smashing game. 12. Healy - the crowd loved him. Firstly because he played wide right and got in some great crosses and secondly because they can chant "Heeeelee, Heeeelee, Heeeelee" a la "Heuwzee, Heuwzee"!!! So if the boy makes it (I doubt it though) he is set for hero status at OT. Let us all hope he does. 13. Wellens - me old mate! If you read my reserve team reports then you KNOW that I like this lad a great deal. His is the 'never-say-die' attitude which I had meself. He's a bit more skillful than I was (not much actually) but he plays like a lion and I love to see that in any player. Last night I thought he looked great in the centre of midfield. It could just be that, in the better company, he might make it. Oh, I DO hope so!!! Just before the final whistle I said to dad "I wonder if the Villa fans will write to the authorities and ask for their money back as we have played the reserves - like the sad b*****ds at Port Vale did a couple of years ago?". Well bugger me if, as we walked away from the ground, this total a**ehole said (assuming us to be Villa fans) "Don't you object to paying twenty quid to see their reserves?". I nearly fell on the sodding floor. I felt me dad grab me arm!! I said "Which would you prefer (you a**ehole) to beat our reserves 3-0 or to lose to our first team?" It will not surprise you, I guess, to hear that he said nowt and just buggered off. What a set of total knobheads? Keep the faith Copyright 'The Old Fart' No part of this work to be used without the author's permission http://www.cheswem.u-net.com/ 'The Old Fart' Reserve reports are here: http://www.red11.org/reserves
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Subject: MEN - Manchester United News - Young guns misfire Aston Villa 3 Manchester United 0 John Prince reporting Tough luck . . . Bosnich got an unpleasant reception from Villa fans, but pulled off some fine saves THERE isn't a lot of sympathy around for Sir Alex Ferguson's famous side, but anyhone with a heart should have felt for his battling youngsters at Villa Park last night. Eight of the starters were 22 or younger and they faced up to a hugely experienced Premiership side with strength and talent throughout. Yet until Steve Stone's injury-time third goal, the Reds could at least have escaped with a respectable defeat. Nearly 34,000 turned up to watch, admittedly at reduced prices, knwoing in advance that United were unlikely to field a star side. It was Villa's second highest home gate this season, illustrating the attractiveness of the treble winners. Fergie unusually watched the entire game from a stand seat and aftewards was disappointed, but supportive of the kids' efforts. ``When they had the ball, they expressed themselves well, as you expect any Man United player to do. At times they played quite well, but were not strong enough, as we thought would be the case. And the defending was not that great. ``No matter how young the players are, if you give away goals like that it is going to be a difficult night.'' The large United following must have wished it were possible to haul on Keane, Beckham, Scholes and the others to try to boss the talented Villa. But the Reds' bench contained youngsters unheard of except by true United fans. It was, in that respect, disappointing for even the Villa fans, wishing as they were for a more glorious victory, but the Claret and Blues are at least on course for a route into Europe. Fergie was unapologetic about his team. ``I picked it because I had to, and it was the best team to play,'' he said. ``There are a lot of first team players injured and we have a game on Saturday and a big European tie next Tuesday. I cannot afford players injured with Tuesday night in mind. ``I expected a result tonight and if we hadn't lost a goal after halt time we might have done that.' 'Keeper Mark Bosnich, at 27, the oldest in the United side anticipated flak from fans at his former club - and how he got it. He was jeered and insulted, in words and music, from start to finish, and showed his character by emerging as United's star man. He stopped an effort from Villa's slippery Julian Joachim with his legs and showed safe hands to hold a high cross from Gareth Barry. But he was helpless for Villa's first as Joachim slipped past John Curtis and toed his shot into the top corner. When Joachim squirmed through the defence and hit a shot, Bosnich saved at full stretch with his feet, and then held Barry's follow-up effort. Former United striker Dion Dublin won Villa cheers when, after Bosnich held on to Barry's cross, he bundled Bosnich and the ball into the net, but was penalised. And the Aussie 'keeper, recently demoted to third spot at Old Trafford behind Van Der Gouw and Taibi, made a great stretch to reach Ian Taylor's header. Solskjaer was in the dismal position of operating alone up front, with Cruyff bolstering midfield. But United could make little impact faced with the defensive strength of Ehiogu and Calderwood. Ronnie Wallwork skied one over the top from 25 yards after a Lee Hendrie error and Villa sub Steve Watson had to make a panic tackle on Solskjaer after he had misjudged a high ball and let in the Norwegian striker. United's defenders were lost when Villa's Mark Delaney hurled a long throw into the box. Danny Higginbotham's headed clearance attempt was all wrong, Jon Greening missed his bid to clear up the danger, and Taylor brought a special cheer from the Bosnich-baiters as he volleyed the second. United's England under-21 winger Luke Chadwick, 18, put in his exciting sprints, but was closely covered by former United junior Mark Delaney. Solskjaer showed great skill to put Greening through but the 20-year-old bent the shot wide. And Reds sub David Healy, a real talent, hit a bending shot from the edge of the box from which 'keeper Enckelman made a fine save. Bosnich again shone when he touched over a Hendry volley and the United goal escaped again when sub Darius Vassell placed a shot - just over Bosnich's crossbar. Stone's third goal for Villa came when, from close in, he hooked it past Bosnich with the help of a deflection off John O'Shea. Fergie gave due credit to Bosnich saying: ``He had a great game, made two terrific saves in the first half and another in the second.'' But the manager's reflections on the game were realistic. ``In terms of sheer strength, it was always going to be a problem for my young players. Probably there were just too many of the young ones tonight - but we weren't outplayed.'' Villa boss John Gregory said: ``We lost it a little in the last 20 minutes. They have good players and they kept the ball well. Bosnich made some good saves and one very good stop with his feet. But we should have been 3-0 up at half-time. ``Mark would have been expecting that reception here. I won't comment on how United view the Worthington Cup, but for us it is still a major tournament. They have bigger and better prizes to go for.'' Under-fire Fergie hits back MANCHESTER United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has defended his selection policy in the Worthington Cup despite being accused by former Old Trafford boss Ron Atkinson of devaluing the competition. Ferguson fielded a below strength team even by his standards in last night's tie at Aston Villa - without a single member of his first choice starting line-up in the 16 for a match where tickets cost up to £23. After the game he bemoaned the fixture list facing his treble-winning team and a long list of injuries. But his outburst came just 48 hours after all of United's stars had played some part in Ferguson's testimonial against a World XI which is expected to net him around £1million from a 54,000 sell-out. Atkinson said: ``I thought Alex was just warming them up on Monday for this game. I knew a lot more of the players that played on Monday than last night! I think that it needs to be looked at. It's okay to rotate your squads but I don't think you can devalue competitions the way this particular competition might be being devalued.'' Ferguson, however, was unrepentant after his side's 3-0 reversal and reacted angrily to a question about the side he had picked. He said: ``That's a stupid question. It was the best team to play. Just look at our fixture list. I've got 11 players injured at the moment.'' DELIGHTED Huddersfield boss Steve Bruce said nothing should be taken away from his players because they beat a weakened Chelsea side 1-0 in the Worthington Cup last night. Kenny Irons's goal after 77 minutes sealed victory for the Yorkshire side, who now play hosts to Wimbledon in the fourth round. Bruce said: ``That's a great result for us and it's not often a club like ours can come and win at Chelsea.
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Subject: Keane/May return boost «« Light is appearing at the end of the injury tunnel which has hit United's start to the season. Keane: Set to return With Ryan Giggs already fit again, Roy Keane will be the next to join the first team squad after his lay off, and David May will follow close behind. May has not played this season after pulling up half way through the Charity Shield on August 1, with a thigh injury. David May has been pencilled in for a return next Thursday when United Reserves face Bolton Wanderers Reserves at the Reebok Stadium and could play his way into contention for the second group stage of the Champions' League should United qualify.
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Subject: Reds await World Club opponents «« United will know who their opening round opponents are later today when the draw for the World Club Championship is made in Rio de Janeiro. They have already been told that it will not be Real Madrid with Europe's entrants being kept apart in the early stages but there will be plenty of tough opposition from South America where Corinthians, Rayos del Necaxa, and Clube Regatas Vasco da Gama, are joined by Al-Nassr, and Australian Champions South Melbourne. The African Champions' League winners will also be included group once that competition is decided in December.
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Subject: Fergie takes the flak!! «« Sir Alex Ferguson is unmoved by criticism of Manchester United's apparent lack of interest in the Worthington Cup, and next season will stick to the same policy of using the competition to give his young players a taste of senior football. United's sides have steadily become less experienced since going out to York City in 1995, and the team which lost 3-0 at Aston Villa was hardly recognisable as one from Old Trafford. As TEAMtalk forecast earlier this week, Sir Alex gave debuts to two of his rising stars, central defender John O'Shea and forward Luke Chadwick, with the rest of the line-up, apart from Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Mark Bosnich and Jordi Cruyff, coming from the reserve ranks. O'Shea and Chadwick are both 18 years of age and have bright futures according to the United coaching staff, but they could do little to hold off a full strength Villa side. Sir Alex was unmoved by comments about his selection, and the Football League and sponsors Worthington, know they are on dangerous ground if they get too critical. United, Arsenal and Chelsea would all support complete withdrawal from the competition, seeing it as an unnecessary inclusion on an already full fixture list. Chelsea also went out last night after making eleven changes to the side which beat United last week. In the last four seasons United have gone out in the early stages at Leicester, Ipswich, Tottenham and Aston Villa and on each occasion fielded an under strength side.
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Subject: McGUINNESS SLAMS BECKHAM FA RAP By David Anderson, PA Sport David Beckham is being unfairly singled out by the Football Association because of who he is, according to former Manchester United manager Wilf McGuinness. The FA this week spoke to Beckham after a series of acts of petulance perpetrated by him. But McGuinness feels there are several other players who have committed worse misdemeanours than the United midfielder this season. McGuinness picked out Dennis Wise's tackle and follow-up on Nicky Butt during Chelsea's 5-0 win over United as an example of this inconsistency and he believes Beckham is being targeted because he is such a high-profile figure. "I could name a whole team of players who should be up before the FA before David Beckham," he said. "You look at Dennis Wise - and Eric Cantona got banned for nine months for a similar kung-fu attack. "I'm joking a little, but you get my point. "I think this is wrong, and it's just because of who David Beckham is and who he plays for. "He also seems to be in with a shout for the European footballer of the year, and the FA don't want him to be suspended if he wins that. "In general David Beckham cannot win. A year or so ago he was being criticised for diving or staying down injured. "Now he is gesturing or retaliating in a certain way, and although it's not violent he's being pulled up for this sort of thing. "Whatever he does he is scrutinised and he still gets a tremendous amount of abuse, whereas certain other high-profile people can get away with other things." McGuinness claims Beckham is just the latest victim of a trend which goes back to George Best. "I think it's always been this way that the FA have tried to look at high-profile players and tried to run them," he said. "George Best was just the same, and I remember when George got a four-week suspension for knocking the ball out of the referee's hands. "High-profile or not, there's got to be a quieter way of dealing with players like this."
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