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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Mon Sep 13 07:43:25 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Can We Play You Every Week? Personal Report from Richard
2. Where's your Bayern Munich Flags? Personal Report by John Leigh
3. Goalkeepers by Robert Fleming
4. Beckham sums up Utd's hunger for glory - Soccernet
5. Bosnich faces fall to No. 3 (Soccernet)
6. Fergie defends Cole after sending off
7. Beckham escapes F.A. action over Anfield actions
8. United's early risers make most of Anfield hospitality 
9. Report - LIVERPOOL 2 MANCHESTER UNITED 3 

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MANCHESTER UNITED DAILY NEWS  Monday 13th Sept 1999:

Barry Comment:
Today a new personal report from Richard & a good Goalkeeper article from
Robert Fleming.
Only two days to go before Europe CL starts again!
Away for the week Bill will be fixing Daily News 
from Tues-Thurs inclusive.

SUNDAY
**** Both the People and News of the World report 
- UNSETTLED RIVALDO `IS UNITED TARGET'
WHILE THE Sunday Mirror says the Argentine striker Gabriel Batistuta
remains their top transfer target - ahead of Brazil's Rivaldo - both the
People and News of the World report a stepping-up of United's interest in
the latter, who has apparently fallen out with the Barcelona coach, Louis
van Gaal. 
The News of the World reckons United's board have already given approval to
an pounds 18m transfer fee.


*** To date our unbeaten runs stand currently as:
27 games League
40 games League and Cup
35 games domestic League and Cup
figures by Masterfan Paul Hinson

Group D  ** Manchester United **
Olympique de Marseille * NK Croatia Zagreb * SK Sturm Graz

Manchester United FC Champions League Squad List
 1 Mark John Bosnich      2 Gary Alexander Neville 3 Dennis Joseph Irwin
 4 David May              6 Jakob Stam             7 David Robert J Beckham
 8 Nicholas Butt          9 Andrew Alex. Cole      10 Edward Sheringham
11 Ryan Joseph Giggs     12 Philip Neville         14 Johan Jordi Cruyff
15 Lars Jesper Blomqvist 16 Roy Keane           17 Raimond RJH Van der Gouw
18 Paul Scholes          19 Dwight Yorke           20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 Henning Berg          23 Michael Jamie Clegg    25 Josť Quinton Fortune
26 Massimo Taibi         31 Nicholas James Culkin  33 Mark Antony Wilson
34 Jonathan Greening

Real Audio - Last weeks Daily News Sound Archive:
Click on INDEX at http://www.red11.org/sound

Size  Date    Time File Name / Description   
54k Sept 11   0.49 alex_after_pool.rm 
	Sir Alex comment after tremendous result at Anfield 
73k Sept 11   1.07 best_rodney.rm 
	George Best & Rodney Marsh comments on Anfield win! 
149k Sept 10  2.17 jaap_before_liv.rm
	Sylvestre Signs + Jaap before Liverpool match 
50k Sept 10   0.46 appeal.rm 
	Result of the Massimo Appeal 
162k Sept 9   2.29 alex_book_sales.rm 
	Waterstones comment on Alex's "Managing My Life" book sales 
90k Sept 9    1.22 jaap_sept99.rm 
	Jaap Stam Interview Sept 1999 - general comment 
190k Sept 9   2.55 euro_time.rm
	Alex comment on the Euro decision on Massimo 
798k Sept 8   12m masterfan992000_1.rm 
	Paul Hinson Defends his Masterfan Trophy pt1 
	- Exciting competition!  Streaming masterfan992000_2.ram
873k Sept 8   13m masterfan992000_2.rm 
	Paul Hinson Defends his Masterfan Trophy pt2 
	Paul's comeback in the last round!  Streaming masterfan992000_2.ram

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99/2000 fixtures/match reports are at
 http://www.red11.org/mufc/992000.htm

Mark Bosnich's Personal Details 
http://www.red11.org/mufc/bosnich.htm

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MANCHESTER UNITED STATS v ALL teams on the Web
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats.htm

Previous News:
 BSKYB Takeover news/pics at http://www.red11.org/mufc/bskyb.htm
  Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
   http://www.iol.ie/~redcafe/kidd.htm
 Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!
   http://www.red11.org/mufc/news/schmeichel.htm


*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 11/09/99 ***

             Arsenal   3-1   Aston Villa           38,093
             Chelsea   1-0   Newcastle United      35,092
       Coventry City   3-4   Leeds United          21,532
           Liverpool   2-3   Manchester United     44,929
       Middlesbrough   3-2   Southampton           32,165
 Sheffield Wednesday   0-2   Everton               23,539
          Sunderland   2-0   Leicester City        40,105
     West Ham United   1-0   Watford               25,310
           Wimbledon   2-2   Derby County          12,820

*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 12/09/99 ***
       Bradford City   1-1   Tottenham Hotspur     18,143

*** CONDENSED LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 12/09/99 ***

Pos Team                  P   W   D   L   F   A   GD  Pts
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 1  Manchester United     7   6   1   0  19   6   13   19
 2  Chelsea               5   4   1   0   9   2    7   13
 3  West Ham United       5   4   1   0   9   3    6   13
 4  Leeds United          7   4   1   2  12   9    3   13
 5  Arsenal               7   4   1   2  10   7    3   13
 6  Aston Villa           7   4   1   2   9   6    3   13
 7  Middlesbrough         7   4   0   3  10  10    0   12
 8  Sunderland            7   3   2   2   8   8    0   11
 9  Everton               7   3   1   3  13   9    4   10
10  Tottenham Hotspur     6   3   1   2  10   8    2   10
11  Leicester City        7   3   1   3   9   8    1   10
12  Liverpool             6   3   0   3   8   7    1    9
13  Southampton           6   3   0   3  10  12   -2    9
14  Derby County          7   2   2   3   7   9   -2    8
15  Watford               7   2   0   5   4   8   -4    6
16  Wimbledon             7   1   3   3  11  16   -5    6
17  Coventry City         7   1   2   4   8  10   -2    5
18  Bradford City         6   1   2   3   3   8   -5    5
19  Newcastle United      7   0   1   6   8  19  -11    1
20  Sheffield Wednesday   7   0   1   6   3  15  -12    1


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 NEXT MATCHES
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14-SEP-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs NK Croatia  (UEFA Champions League, HOME)
18-SEP-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Wimbledon   (FA Premier League, HOME)
22-SEP-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Sturm Graz  (UEFA Champions League, AWAY)
25-SEP-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Southampton (FA Premier League, HOME)
29-SEP-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Marseilles  (UEFA Champions League, HOME)


*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - 

UNITED Stats v All teams:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/
ALL FIXTURES at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix992000.htm
 
First Team Fixtures 1999/2000
All dates/times subject to change
Dates of possible cup ties also shown

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
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15/07/99    Melbourne Australia   pre-season  W  2-0     -    60,000
18/07/99    Sydney    Australia   pre-season  W  1-0     -    78,000
21/07/99    Shanghai  Shenhua     pre-season  W  2-0     -    80,000
24/07/99    Hong Kong South China pre-season  W  2-0     -    40,000

 1/08/99    Arsenal   Wembley Charity Shield  L  1-2     -    70,185
 3/08/99    Omagh Town Omagh Bomb Fund        W  9-0     -     7,000
 4/08/99    Wigan Athletic friendly           W  2-0     -    15,000 

08/08/99    Everton                  Away     D  1-1    10    39,141
11/08/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Home     W  4-0     3    54,941
14/08/99    Leeds United             Home     W  2-0     1    55,187
22/08/99    Arsenal                  Away     W  2-1     1    38,147
25/08/99    Coventry City            Away     W  2-1     1    22,024
30/08/99    Newcastle United         Home     W  5-1     1    55,190
11/09/99    Liverpool                Away     W  3-2     1    44,929

14/09/99    Croatia Zagreb           Home EC   19.45 
18/09/99    Wimbledon                Home PL   15.00
22/09/99    Sturm Graz               Away EC   19.45
25/09/99    Southampton              Home PL   15.00
29/09/99    Marseille                Home EC   19.45
 3/10/99    Chelsea                  Away PL   16.00   "live on sky"

*11/10/99   Sir Alex Ferguson's testimonial OT [Schmeichel + Cantona]

13/10/99    ?     WC 3
16/10/99    Watford                  Home PL   15.00
19/10/99    Marseille                Away EC   19.45 
23/10/99    Tottenham Hotspur        Away PL   15.00
27/10/99    Croatia Zagreb           Away EC   19.45
30/10/99    Aston Villa              home PL   15.00
 2/11/99    Sturm Graz               Home EC   19.45 
 6/11/99    Leicester City           Home PL   15.00
20/11/99    Derby County             Away PL   15.00
24/11/99    ?     EC
27/11/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Away PL   15.00
30/11/99    Tokyo  Palmeiras         WCC       20.00
 1/12/99    ?     WC 4
 4/12/99    Everton                  Home PL   15.00
 8/12/99    ?     EC
11/12/99    FAC 3 Will not enter ...
15/12/99    ?     WC 5
18/12/99    West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
26/12/99    Bradford City            Home PL   15.00
28/12/99    Sunderland               Away PL   20.00  "live on sky"
 3/01/2000  Middlesborough           Home PL   20.00

 ***** 5-14 /01/2000 Brazil WTC  *****   [3-4 games]

*  8/01/2000  FAC 4 Will not enter ...
12/01/2000  ?    WC sf i
15/01/2000  Leeds United             Away PL   15.00
22/01/2000  Arsenal                  Home PL   15.00
26/01/2000  ?    WC sf ii
* 29/01/2000  FAC 5 Will not enter ...
 5/02/2000  Coventry City            Home PL   15.00
12/02/2000  Newcastle United         Away PL   15.00
* 19/02/2000  FAC 6 Will not enter ...
26/02/2000  Wimbledon                Away PL   15.00
27/02/2000  ?   Wembley WC f
 1/03/2000  ?   EC
 4/03/2000  Liverpool                Home PL   15.00
 8/03/2000  ?   EC
11/03/2000  Derby County             Home PL   15.00
15/03/2000  ?   EC
18/03/2000  Leicester City           Away PL   15.00
22/03/2000  ?   EC
25/03/2000  Bradford City            Away PL   15.00
 1/04/2000  West Ham United          Home PL   15.00
 5/04/2000  ?   EC qf i
 8/04/2000  Middlesborough           Away PL   15.00
*  9/04/2000  FAC sf Will not enter ...
15/04/2000  Sunderland               Home PL   15.00
19/04/2000  ?   EC qf ii
22/04/2000  Southampton              Away PL   15.00
24/04/2000  Chelsea                  Home PL   15.00
29/04/2000  West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
 3/05/2000  ?   EC sf i
 6/05/2000  Tottenham Hotspur        Home PL   15.00
10/05/2000  ?   EC sf ii
14/05/2000  Aston Villa              Away PL   15.00
* 20/05/2000 Wembley FAC f Will not enter ...
24/05/2000  ?    EC f

http://www.red11.org/mufc/match.htm

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 THE FANTASTIC TRIPLE WAS WON!!
EC links + Personal diaries here:
 http://www.red11.org/mufc/barcelona.htm


 Its the presentation of the European Cup at Nou Camp
  Video including sound   57secs  1.5 meg 

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Subject: Can We Play You Every Week? Personal Report from Richard In the absence of our usual reporter, RED KELLY, who unfortunately had to bow out at the last minute, I shall attempt to get halfway towards his usual high match-reporting standards. Right now,I'm under doctors orders to control stressful situations. In fact,I should try to avoid them completely.When quizzed by the docs about my typical week,I had to confess that it isn't so much work that winds me up,it's bloody football,especially "away" games.So what's the best way to avoid stress ? Well,simple answer really....don't put yourself in the situation to start with. Easy,I thought.Cut out the "aways", don't go to "Euro Aways",and everything will be alright. Wrong. I forgot something. Football,United, they're a drug that I am hopelessly addicted to.If I go,I get my "fix". If I don't,I get withdrawal symptoms. I can't win. I've tried, boy have I tried.I gave up my Everton and Arsenal tickets, but I couldn't resist Coventry (and suffered as much as anybody with the reds putting us all through the mincer for those last 10 minutes). And then the Liverpool tickets went on sale. Jeez,what do I do,I thought ? This is THE away game to go to this season. Every other game pales into insignificance. In that life-defining hour immediately after Ole's toe-end had put the ball in the back of the german's net,one of the many,many delirious thoughts that was going through my head,was "I can't wait,I REALLY can't wait,to go to Anfield next season".But remembering the 3-3 in '94 when we were three up and 2-2 last season when we were two up,I knew exactly how stressful this would be. Sod it I thought. I'm going. I can't miss this piss-take.It would be more stressful not going and thinking that I should be there,than actually going. And so to the day. I was supposed to be going with RED KELLY, until I got a call from somebody sounding like the Budweiser frog at 7:15am. It turned out to be RK sounding very unwell, saying that he couldn't make it all the way to Liverpool. Problem. Big problem. For health reasons,I'm unable to drive again until next May at the earliest, so I couldn't drive us. I tried to get a lift sorted with a mate on his way up from Worcester, but timewise the diversion would have left us not getting to Liverpool until after KO. Keep trying I thought. In the meantime, RK was able to drive as far as my house to drop off his ticket in case I was able to shift it for him.I then 'phoned Coventry train station, to be told that there was a train, with connections, leaving at 8:25am. There were no buses near to me and there wasn't sufficient time to arrange a taxi, so RK was made to suffer a little longer and drove me to the station (cheers RK !!). So finally, I was moving. I made a few calls on the way up trying to shift RK's ticket. RK did likewise from home. One of RK's mates phoned me and we arranged to meet by the Shankly gates at 11:15. The train journeys were uneventful. Full of Liverpool fans strangely enough (do you come from Merseyside ?), plus a sprinkling of cockney reds. Arrived at Lime Street at 11am, jumped into a taxi and asked to be taken to the football. Didn't instigate a conversation with the driver for obvious reasons,but in his attempt to secure a tip,he started talking about the game.After a few vague answers to his questions (ie,without giving anything away),he turned out to be an Evertonian and shared a mutual dislike for anything dirties-related.In the space of the 10 minute journey we almost became best mates,sharing anti-Liverpool stories along the way.He came out tops by saying that him and his son were dancing and hollering around their living room when Eric scored the winner in the '96 final,and when Teddy and Ole did the business in Barca,just to piss their LFC neighbours off. In fact,he said that many Evertonians were ecstatic when we won in Barca,not so much that United had won, but that it really sickened the dirties !! The conversation even drifted towards Altrincham (my family's home town). I mentioned witnessing their greatest ever moment when the Robins beat Birmingham City (an old first division team then) at ST Andrews in the FA Cup 3rd round (1986 I think),and it turned out he was there to see it as well as he was mates with the then manager !! Top cabby I thought,you've secured your tip now !! I left the cab saying that I hoped we got the right result for him as well,which he enjoyed ! Made it to the ground in time, met up with RK's mate who was having his ticket and entered the cesspit to be greeted with the usual Kop Flag Day when United are in town. How sad have these muppets become ? Is this the only way that they can get themselves fired up when they play us ? They just don't understand. All the reds around me were laughing their heads off !!! No class whatsoever. Anybody remember Anfield '94 when they had a whole load of anti-United flags,topped with the big "Form is temporary,Class is permanent" banner ? Funny that lads,but I haven't seen this one for MANY years now !! Bumped into Big Kev,who I hadn't seen since the Munich Beer Festival last season when, as Kev was dancing on top of a table in the 10,000 strong HB tent, Mick yanked down his shorts and left him standing there with his tackle in full glory much to everybody's laughter,except for the 6 rubber-gloved bouncers who dragged him outside with his shorts still around his ankles !! The game started off with United in full flow and it was no surprise that we scored in the 4th minute. I was on the second row and couldn't see who scored,but it really didn't matter.We were taking the piss on and off the pitch and the second goal was coming long before it eventually did.Another spot on free-kick cross from Becks and Cole emerged from a pack of defenders to nod home mumber two. They pulled one back through a bit of wayward wondering by the otherwise faultless Taibi,who I thought had an excellent debut along with the equally impressive Silvestre.Good finds here Fergie,especially with the keeper.I am not the only one who has very serious reservations with Bosnich, though I feel sorry for VDH as it looks as if he'll go another season now playing insufficient games for a medal if we win the league again this year. Still,I hope that he gets the nod for the first stage of the CL games. The scousers were all frothing at the mouths when Butty fisted the ball away from a corner. God know how the referee or linesman didn't see it;we all certainly did,and then took great delight in winding the b......s up by holding our hand up into the air,pointing to it and singing "handball,handball" !!! More generosity from Carragher on the stroke of half-time and the much- deserved 2 goal lead was restored. Apart from Cole's chance at the beginning of the second half (it was a corner,Carragher mis-kicked the ball in front of Coley's head,instead of putting it away for his hat-trick (wouldn't that have been fun !!),most of the action was contained at the other end.They pulled one back again,Cole got himself sent off for stupid retaliation (Becks should have followed - when the hell will he learn ?) and then it was all backs to the wall for the team,and the (I knew this would happen) maximum stress levels for me and the other 3000 reds !! Time seemed to take forever,Fergie had a fit on the touchline at the ref once the 3 minutes stoppage were over (some things never change !) and we all breathed a huge sigh of relief when the whistle finally went. Walked back to Lime Street with Kev,hit the station bar for a few beers along with other reds getting trains back,and then began the treck back home. Song of the day ? Well,there were three really."La Marseillaise" and "Ooh Aah Silvestre" for our french debutant. This lad's become a really big hit already.He never flinched once,has great pace and can cross the ball.Considering that he only arrived at OT the day before,this was an excellent debut. And the third song ? "Can we play you every week ?" For the sake of my health,I hope to god that this never happens !!!! -- Copyright © 1999 by Richard. All rights reserved. Not to be reproduced without permission of the author
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Subject: Where's your Bayern Munich Flags? Personal Report by John Leigh Another quick match-goer report for reds around the world who were unable to attend..... 7:00 on a Saturday morning. Should be fast asleep getting rid of that hangover. After all, Friday night is Friday night. Instead, the worst sound in the world: the sound of my alarm clock. Yes, thanks to TV, Police, etc. we are never ever ever going to play the scousers at 3 o'clock on a Saturday again (unless it's 3am). 7:15 and I finally manage to drag myself out of bed and into the shower. 15 minutes later I'm in my car. Another 30 seconds later I'm back in the house retrieving the 12-pack of Boddies from the fridge, and a further 4 minutes later I've done another about-turn from about a mile down the road to come back home for my phone..... 8:30 and I'm at the Post House Hotel next to Haydock Park Racecourse to meet a group of lads from various parts of Manchester plus a lad from the www.m-u-f-c.co.uk board who I haven't met before. We have breakfast, and retire to the bar - which is open at 9:00. A few pints of Guniess later and the father of the lad from the www.m-u-f-c.co.uk board is driving us all to Anfield in his estate car, and telling us about the camcorder tape he has from within the Nou Camp with all 3 goals plus the REAL celebrations that he is going to copy and send to me. Can't wait to receive it. At this point we realise that we have accidentally forgotten to pay for our breakfast, but surprisingly none of us want to go back to settle the account. When in Rome.... The traffic into the cesspit is pretty heavy, so we crack a few cans. The rest of the lads are upbeat about the game, but I'm worried that having Keano out and the scouse team bereft of most of the normal idiots who are beaten before they take the pitch against us - plus their recent record - may count towards a shock result. We are soon mingling with the shell-suited ones and now the beer is talking "I hate these f*****g scouse b******s" is the generally-aired view. And who can disagree? Horrible spit-spouting accents, unwashed, clueless in the clothing department, we are all having to walk with our hands on our wallets, the list of reasons to hate scousers just goes on and on. By 11:20 we are stood in front of our seats and the anti-scouse atmosphere is rising. "We are the Champions - Champions of Europe". The accoustics are crap in the new Anfield Road End and we never got that chant going the way we did at Highbury (all 4,000 singing it in unison for 20 minutes non-stop). However, we DID sing it ALL the way through the hideous "You'll never walk alone" blaring out over the tannoy with 40,000 scousers singing along to it holding their scarves (strangely, not Arsenal or Bayern this time). Then the players were out on the pitch. After a few quick forays by the scousers into our half easily dealt with by Jip Jaap, the shirts (the navy Lacoste-like thing, white shorts, white socks) begin to seriously dominate the dirties and it is no surprise when inside 5 minutes the ball is in the back of the scousers net in front of a despairing Kop to the delight of the 4,000 travelling fans at the other end of the ground. We go mad, despite having no idea who has scored. Now here I must declare some bias. If somebody came along and killed my entire family in cold blood, I could not hate him more than I hate scousers. So when Andy Cole gets a free header 4 yards out and it ends high in the net to make it 2-0, all United fans within a 5 yard raduis got a non-homosexual hug from an absolutely delirious Jon Leigh. Not that I was the only one who was happy. We couldn't see anything but a seriously big win. Maybe today we could eradicate the memory of letting them off the hook at 3-0 5 years ago. But, of course, this is United so we have to give them one back don't we? Out of absolutely nothing, the scousers are awarded a free kick when Scholes allows a mickey to foul him and then dive gracefully to the floor. During the free kick from which our 2nd goal had been scored, the entire United end was in the middle of "If you all hate scousers clap your hands". Now, again, the same chant starts. It gives me a feeling of forboding. Sure enough, Taibi comes out for the cross, misses it by miles, and an unidentifiable scouse player has the simplest of tasks in heading it into an empty net. Incredibly, we are now only 2-1 up. The scousers are suddenly awake now, and they even threaten to score again, but Taibi saves well one-handed to his left from Berger. Then, from a corner, Nicky Butt picks the ball up, checks it for scratches, autographs it, and chucks it out of the penalty area. Amazingly, the referee misses all of this and despite scouse protests (for which there are no bookings) he does not award the blatant penalty. "In your Liverpool slums", we sing, laughing at the scousers. At some stage in the first half, Fowler (still cheating, pushing, kicking, nudging, diving) comes over near to the away support, who serenade him with "You Scouse B.....d" at full volume. Real scouse hatred. Great. Then Becks misses a chance in front of the Kop. He picks up one of the missles aimed at him from the Kop and pretends to throw it back. Taking the piss. Wonderful. Then Giggs is played clean through. Great save from the goalkeeper, but as Ryan tries to get the ball back he is pulled up just short of the edge of the penalty area by a scouse defender who is stood at the edge of the 6-yard box with the elastic of Ryan's shorts in his hand. Ryan is unable to stretch the elastic any more than about 8 yards so he can't reach the ball. Blatant penalty, but yet again the referee waves play on. Then we get another free kick. "Come on, lads, 3-1" - Becks swings it over and yet again it ends up in the scouse net from a once-more unidentifiable source. Cue more delirium. Cue more "Champions" and a new chant: "Where's your Bayern, where's your Bayern, where's your Bayern Munich Flags?". Half time and the feeling downstairs is that it's wrapped up. Maybe the scousers might get another, but we will get 2 or 3 more surely. Should have known better. We sit back, content to defend our lead, and the scousers get up a head of steam. In the stands, we are going through the full United repertoir - 'Pride of all Europe', 'Whenever they're playing in your town', 'If you all hate scousers', 'In your liverpool slums', 'We f*****g HATE scousers' (to the tune of 'Those were the days'), 'You're not famous any more', 'They're on the dole, all the scousers on the dole', etc. Some great saves from Taibi, and the United defence looks shaky - particularly from crosses. And we are giving the ball away too cheaply. And not closing them down. Or so it seems. Then the scousers score. 3-2. Shit. They're up for it now. Then Song, who has been kicking and climbing over Cole and Yorke all game, goes completely over the top against Andy, who naturally retaliates. The referee has no option. 2 yellow cards, in Andy's case a red as well. I am looking forward to seeing Song sent off at Old Trafford. Please. The scousers are really at us now, going through the whole repertoir - late tackles, cheating, diving, off-the-ball pushing and kicking, the lot. They're playing a bit of football as well, they've got nearly all the possession. Golden Boy comes on for Camara - who we are glad to see the back of. We finally get in their half. Becks comes over to take a corner. Gets the full United applause and breaks out into a big grin. Ever time we get a throw-in, various missles land on United players' heads. But this is Merseyside, home of the lovable scouser, so they're only having a bit of fun. It's 1:15. 15 minutes to go. Every time I look at the clock, it has stopped. It's still 1:15. My watch has stopped as well. About an hour later, it's 1:16. We miss a couple of chance to catch them on the break and finish it. We sing a few more songs. 1:17. Finally, after about 4 lifetimes, the assistant hold up the board: 3 minutes injury time. It looks like we may have weathered the storm. We break out again. Giggs heads for the corner flag, and sells a brilliant dummy to Berger who is still heading for the corner flag as Ryan makes his way into the scouse penalty area. He doesn't cross it, but gets a corner instead. Good thinking, Ryan. Becks plays it short. Ryan puts it against the corner flag and wins a throw-in. Fergie comes off the bench and holds up 3 finger to the referee: "You've played 3 minutes injury time now, it's full time, blow you b*****d!!". The referee goes over and bollocks him. We take the throw. We've won a corner, but it doesn't matter. Right in front of us, the referee blows for full time and we've beaten those dirty workshy thieving grannystabbing scouse b......s in their own hovel again. The players all come right over to join in the celebration and are well-pleased. Particularly Becks, who clearly hates them as much as we do. Now we have to wait 30 minutes to get let out, but we don't mind. We go through the full repertoir to the departing miserable scousers as they leave for their hovels: 'You're not famous any more', '10 years since you won the League', 'Where's your Bayern Munich flags?', 'Get to work you lazy twats', 'Sign on', and many more. We get let out, and walk away from Anfield with big grins on our faces. I hate going to Merseyside. I hate going to Anfield and seeing all those horrible scousers. But I love beating them. Jon Leigh
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Subject: Goalkeepers by Robert Fleming Well I have to say there has been a certain ammount of speculation with regards to this rather vital position on the list, and in the media recently, and with due cause. We have spent money on a new goalkeeper, bought one on free transfer and lost the best goalkeeper in the world recently. However, many of you out there have been bagging Mark Bosnich like nobodies business, and why? Because when he returned to England he chose Villa instead of United, and you can't forgive him. He has only played a few matches (5?) for United since his return, and yes his form has been poor, I'll admit it. But so was Schmeik's when he first arrived. I already mentioned that distribution of the ball was not worth comparing, but as a shot stopper, I still believe Bosnich is the best choice to replace Schmeik's. After watching the game vs. Liverpool I felt that Taibi didn't perform that much better than Bozza. He made a couple of outstanding saves, and was very imposing in front of goal, howeverone of Liverpool's goals was totally his fault, and he scuffed a few kicks as well, which in my opinion is the only real weakness in Bozza's game. Admittedly, he is crap at clearences, however United have to adjust to how he distributes the ball differently. When the keeper has the ball, all of united's players can't expect to go and camp on the opposing 18 yard box like what they did with Schmeik's, in expectance of receiving a 100 metre bombshell into the opposition half. Villa managed to adjust to his distribution technique. Why can't we, the best side in the country. While I am reserving judgment on Taibi until I see more than one outing, I did like his style. However I am not going to write him off after a few games, and mistakes, for a new club who happen to be European Champs and the most popular club in the world, like some of you have done for Bosnich. Don't you feel it would be intimidating being asked to come and fill in the (rather large) boots of Schmeiks straight off?? I know I would be shitting bricks standing between those two posts. And finally, I don't believe for a minute, the signing of Taibi was either a) Writing off Bosnich, or b) some spiteful form of revenge. For the last few years we have had the best goalkeeper in the world, and quite a classy no.2 goalkeeper in Rai Van Der Gouw. Rai is getting quite old as players go, 36 or 37 this year, and I wouldn't be surprised to find out he was thinking of leaving either this year or next, and what sir Alex has done is to get two world class goalkeepers for the next few years. By the time Rai leaves us, Taibi or Bozza will be a firm no.1 and the other will be a top class reserve goalkeeper, while Rai retires to Amsterdam to sit in a comfy chair drinking cool drinks watching the reds march across Europe in the years to come. Glory be to United!!!!! ___________________________ United Are Treble Champions!!! --------------------------------------------- Robert Fleming Hobart, Australia.
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Subject: Beckham sums up Utd's hunger for glory - Soccernet Beckham sums up Utd's hunger for glory By John Richardson David Beckham stepped into the Anfield bear-pit and proved that, for all his inventiveness and passing ability, he retains the steely resolution of a footballing street-fighter. At times - and seemingly to the delight of his holier-than-thou detractors - he goes over the top, placing himself at the mercy of the officials. He raked angrily at Jamie Redknapp's outstretched leg in retaliation for a late, clumsy challenge. Beckham's famous Argentine adversary Diego Simeone would probably have fainted, judging by his reaction to that notorious flick of the leg in France 98. Bashing Beckham for his basic instinct to survive in the midfield jungle has become a national pastime. But his resilience is one of the reasons Manchester United have exploded out of the blocks for their best start to a season under Sir Alex Ferguson. Beckham and the majority of the United side have seen it, done it and are wearing the T- shirt - a redesigned number of course - but their determination to succeed hasn't been eroded by continual success. Anyone supposing that the Treble triumph of last season would leave United with a soft underbelly will be disappointed. Nothing has changed, including the ritual of Sir Alex tapping ferociously on what surely must be a specially reinforced watch to inform the referee that time is up. But as they demonstrated with their two late goals in Barcelona's Nou Camp to beat Bayern Munich in the Champions League final, United hate being second best to anyone. Surely, though, with several play-ers missing and Liverpool under Gerard Houllier beginning to inspire hope on the Kop, Saturday was going to be the day when a 26-game unbeaten run in the League would end. Wrong. Liverpool's defence went walkabout and United sauntered into a 3-1 lead by half-time. Andy Cole's free header from Beckham's 18th-minute cross was sandwiched by Jamie Carragher's two unfortunate own-goals, while Sami Hyypia replied for the hosts. Houllier changed his system at the interval and Patrik Berger responded with a cultured finish to cut the deficit in the 68th minute. When Cole was sent off for tangling with Rigobert Song, the original optimism of the Liverpool fans was rekindled. But with Beckham, the peerless Jaap Stam, the hardworking Dwight Yorke and debutant goalkeeper Massimo Taibi outstanding, Liverpool were to be denied and United beat the old enemy for the seventh time in their last nine meetings. At the final whistle, Ferguson raised his arms in triumph and the incredible era of Old Trafford success showing no signs of abating. Five of his players were involved in England's Euro 2000 qualifying setback in Poland but he said: 'The players have focused really well. 'There was a bit of disappointment among them, but against Liverpool there is no time for sorrow. You have to get on with it and perform.' Houllier sees United as the benchmark for the aspirations of his own side. He said: 'Many of their players have played together for a long time - they have a good lot there. They look like a team of champions. 'They forget about the trophies, titles, everything - they look as if they want to win every game. That is the label of a good side. 'I think that we can reach that here. It will take years but we have got the spirit and quality. 'We should have got something from the game, but when you give away two own-goals against a side of the calibre of Manchester United, you know you are going to be punished. 'We have to stop making mistakes, we also have to improve the pace and control of our passing. And we have to learn to contain teams who switch play so quickly from end to end like United do. We have to learn to turn our own possession into quick attacks like they did.' When Liverpool did blast through United's granite-like resistance, they discovered that Taibi seems to share the same appetite for big confrontations as his predecessor Peter Schmeichel. He may have gifted defender Hyypia his first goal for the club by missing a cross but he silenced the cries of 'dodgy keeper' with some fine reflex stops. Frustratingly for United, the 29-year-old Italian will not be able to play in the opening sequence of Champions League games after a foul-up over his registration. He does, however, have an admirer in Liverpool goalkeeper Sander Westerveld, who said: 'We thought it would be a good thing for us that he was making his debut. We decided to hit him with plenty of crosses. You saw with that first goal that he made a big mistake. 'But he responded well in the second half. In the end, I believe he saved United. Without him we would have scored at least one or two more goals.' United defender Stam agreed, saying: 'He made some great saves. He can't speak English but he is learning the football terms. He was tremendous.' Another United new boy, defender Mickael Silvestre, also settled in quickly, which did not surprise Houllier, who had also been keen to sign him. In the end United beat Liverpool to the punch. That seems to be the way it goes between these two deadly rivals these days.
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Subject: Bosnich faces fall to No. 3 (Soccernet) By Peter Fitton EXCLUSIVE: Mark Bosnich is 48 hours away from the most humiliating moment of his career in a weekend of increasing despondency over his Manchester United future. Just two months ago the easygoing Australian goalkeeper arrived at Old Trafford as Peter Schmeichel's high-profile replacement. Now he faces the brutal reality of being only third choice. He is not guaranteed a place in Sir Alex Ferguson's team for Tuesday night's first defence of the European Champions League against Croatia Zagreb at Old Trafford - even with new 4.5 million signing Massimo Taibi unable to play because of UEFA regulations. And despite being fully fit, Bosnich was overlooked for the 16-man squad that faced Liverpool at Anfield yesterday. The 27-year-old's goalkeeping role is threatened by Dutchman Raimond Van der Gouw, for much of the Nineties Schmeichel's understudy at United and 10 years older than Bosnich. Ferguson intended to use Taibi against the Croats and his debut at Anfield yesterday emphasised that he is United's new No 1. His unexpected exile has left Ferguson with an uncomfortable dilemma in choosing between suddenly fallen star Bosnich or the veteran Van der Gouw. United's management have been less than happy with Bosnich's attitude and physical condition since his summer arrival and ordered him to lose at least a stone to make his best playing weight. Now, after playing in just two games, Bosnich is fully recovered from a hamstring injury. 'He has done a good week's training,' said Ferguson. Whether that will be enough to convince Bosnich's doubting boss will not be determined for another 48 hours. Roy Keane, Denis Irwin and Gary Neville, the latest major casualties for United, will all miss the game.
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Subject: Fergie defends Cole after sending off Alex Ferguson angrily leapt to the defence of Andy Cole after watching his star striker sent off. The Manchester United man was given his marching orders after a second-half scuffle with Rigobert Song. It was his second booking and he deserved to go. But Fergie, celebrating his best-ever start to a season at United, was left seething. He insisted: "Song was kicking kicked lumps out of Cole. I know you shouldn't retaliate but there is supposed to be protection for forwards and I thought that was unfair in the circumstances." But referee Graham Barber, like everyone else, saw Cole react by kicking out. It left United down to 10 men for the final 19 minutes of the game but, by that time, victory was already being placed in the bag. Two own goals from Jamie Carragher, seven bookings, one red card, and a mountain of end-to-end action made this a grudge match to remember. If you add to that two debuts in United's line-up - keeper Massimo Taibi and defender Mickael Silvestre - the clash was packed with incident, controversy and moments of stunning football. And England midfielder David Beckham was back to all his old tricks. His world-class free kicks set up the first two United goals. But he allowed himself to be wound up by the Kop fans and could have been sent off for stamping on Jamie Redknapp, after the Liverpool captain caught him with a late lunge. It is a problem Fergie is constantly being asked about. But when you have a side playing as well as his, despite injuries to Roy Keane, Denis Irwin and Gary Neville, headaches such as Cole's dismissal and Beckham's erratic temperament are soon soothed away. Fergie added: "Our first-half performance was excellent, absolutely superb. "We could have been five or six up but, in the second half, we rolled with the luck and our keeper had to make a couple of great saves. At times it was backs to the wall." Fergie had to send on the young Ronnie Wallwork after Nicky Butt limped off with a serious groin injury. Butt's injury means Fergie will be without 11 players for Tuesday's Champions League clash against Croatia Zagreb.But he was boosted by the displays of Taibi and Silvestre. Fergie insisted: "Taibi has learnt exactly what Peter Schmeichel learnt in his first game for us. "Peter came out for a high ball and missed it by three yards, but he went on to become a great keeper. Massimo redeemed himself and deserved to be man of the match." Taibi was facing chants of "dodgy keeper" after he came out to meet a Redknapp free kick in the 23rd minute, flapping wildly and missing the ball completely. Liverpool defender Sami Hyypia was given a simple diving header into the roof of United's net. That mistake allowed Liverpool to claw their way back into the game. Carragher started a nightmare afternoon by heading the ball into his own goal in the third minute, the result of a swirling Ryan Giggs cross. And after Cole headed in United's second in the 18th minute following a brilliant Beckham free kick from the right, Carragher capped a day that will cause him a few sleepless nights. Beckham won a free kick just before half-time in exactly the same place which produced United's second goal. He whipped in another beautifully struck cross to see Henning Berg storm in and head the ball down and in to a bunch of Liverpool defenders. It bounced off Song's leg and, as Carragher dived in to clear, he merely pushed it over his own goal-line. Liverpool chief Gerard Houllier said: "We have to blame ourselves for our defending against set pieces. "When you play Manchester United you cannot make mistakes like that. We lost two goals from the same scenario." Ref Barber should have awarded three penalties. The first was when Nicky Butt clearly handled the ball. The second, just as blatant, came as Liverpool's David Thompson tugged on Giggs' shirt. In the second half, Redknapp was taken down by Jaap Stam. An even stronger claim may have been when Robbie Fowler was charged down by Silvestre. But with Liverpool trailing by two goals it took Patrik Berger, who fluffed two shots in the first half, to produce a piece of brilliance to put the Merseysiders back in the hunt. He fended off a challenge from Berg and slotted the ball devastatingly past Taibi. A few minutes later Cole, booked in the first half for dissent, was heading for an early bath and suddenly United were having to defend in numbers. It seemed incredible that Liverpool missed so many close-range opportunities. Fowler squandered one of the best chances and Michael Owen slammed a shot into the side netting. Yet United always threatened on the break, as the impressive Beckham repeatedly found Giggs with pinpoint accuracy. But it was Taibi, threatening to prematurely end the Old Trafford career of Mark Bosnich, who had to produce the most heroics. Berger forced a breathtaking one-handed save from the former Inter Milan player, while Fowler was twice denied. The tension and drama continued all the way to the final whistle and the deafening noise from the Kop reached its highest pitch when a late lunge from Redknapp flattened Beckham. As Beckham pulled himself to his feet, he clearly stamped on Redknapp. But Barber decided to book both players when he would have been within his rights to have flashed a red at Beckham.
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Subject: Beckham escapes F.A. action over Anfield actions David Beckham was public enemy No.1 at Anfield after another display of World Cup-style petulance. Beckham stamped on Jamie Redknapp's leg in the heat of the battle against Liverpool. Earlier he had flapped out his leg at Steven Gerrard. Beckham's reaction was reminiscent of his kick at Diego Simeone, which led to his red card against Argentina in St. Etienne. That incident has haunted Beckham, although he overcame it and enjoyed the best form of his career last season. Now he is teetering on the edge again and he has already collected three cautions in United's Premiership campaign. But Beckham will escape any FA action over the Redknapp stamping, which was seen by millions on TV. An FA spokesman said: "It has been dealt with by the referee as he saw fit." Daily Mirror >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + 365 article 13-Sep-1999: When will Beckham learn ? Sometimes it's very difficult to have sympathy with people, isn't it? And if David Beckham had received the red card he should have got for stamping on Liverpool's Jamie Redknapp on Saturday lunchtime few, if any, would have felt sorry for the Manchester United midfielder. When Beckham escaped censure last month after giving Leeds fans the V-sign, many - including representatives from the Football Association - felt his reaction was entirely justified by the obscene chanting of the away supporters. One song in particular, about his infant son Brooklyn, would have been enough to bring most of us to breaking point. After Saturday afternoon's act of petulance, however, Lancaster Gate should reconsider its decision and deptuise someone to have strong words with the Manchester United midfielder. For after a 1998/99 season in which he displayed remarkable maturity in the face of severe provocation, it seems like he has gone back to the bad old ways. Football365 readers who saw the Redknapp incident were unanimous in their condemnation of Beckham. Reader Andrew Garwood-Gowers from Brisbane summed up many people's feelings by saying: "He obviously hasn't learnt from his World Cup dismissal against Argentina last year. Twice in Saturday's clash against Liverpool he foolishly lashed out in retaliation after being fouled. The second incident involving England team-mate Redknapp should surely have resulted in Beckham's dismissal. He was extremely fortunate to escape with a booking." And Andrew Thomson added: "When will he ever learn? I understand Beckham was this week voted Sportsman of the Year in GQ magazine. He can play football, but he's no sportsman." United were grimly hanging on to their 3-2 lead after Andy Cole's dismissal when Beckham saw fit to rake his studs down the back of Redknapp's leg after getting the hump with a sliding challenge from the Liverpool captain. You didn't need to have an A-level in lip-reading to see what Redknapp thought of his England team-mate and there could have been no complaints - not even from Sir Alex Ferguson - had referee Graham Barber brandished a second red card in the direction of a United player. Instead, and probably because of the fact that Cole had already gone, the official bottled it. Beckham had already escaped punishment for a petulant flick of the boot at Steven Gerrard, and these are hardly isolated incidents. He also has a problem with back-chat to referees - a problem which would have kept him out of last week's crucial England qualifier in Poland had the referee in the previous Luxembourg game not given him the option of apologising rather than getting booked. Mindful of the fact that a Beckham red card might have seen his side lose two or possibly three points on Saturday, perhaps Ferguson will now act. But since the manager's reticence to criticise his players in public is widely believed to extend to behind closed doors, the FA should have a quiet word too. by Ian Cruise Football 365
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Subject: United's early risers make most of Anfield hospitality There is rarely any shortage of excitement or drama when these bitter North-West rivals meet, and yesterday morning's humdinger at Anfield was no exception. The emotions of a full house of nearly 45,000 were fully engaged as the contest swayed one way then the other, before United deservedly went back down the East Lancashire Road with yet another win over Liverpool. The Manchester club have emerged victorious from seven of the last nine tribal wars between the two clubs. They proved their class and maturity again yesterday by winning a ferocious battle, despite lacking seven first-team players because of injury and having to defend their lead with only 10 men for the last 19 minutes after striker Andy Cole was sent off. Gerard Houllier's remodelled Liverpool did well to get back into contention after going 2-0 and 3-1 down, but United's calm and disciplined defending made sure there was to be no dramatic, last-gasp equaliser of the sort Paul Ince managed in the corresponding fixture last season. "Where's your big-time Charlie now?" the United fans had chanted mockingly and prophetically when their team were lording it over the opposition in the first half. Liverpool, so sound at the back against Leeds and Arsenal, lost largely because their old defensive faults resurfaced alarmingly when they had to deal with crosses and free-kicks from the flanks. Poor Jamie Carragher was debited with two own goals as he and fellow central defender Sami Hyypia failed to deal with the ball convincingly in the air; but the credit ought go to the high quality of the deliveries supplied by Ryan Giggs and David Beckham. "We are disappointed because, on the whole, despite the way things turned round, we should have got something out of the game," admitted Houllier. "But we've got to blame ourselves for the mistakes we made at set-pieces. When you are playing Manchester United you can't give them two goals. In the Premiership you pay for any mistake; but when you play Manchester United you pay double." United's latest win came at a price, however. With Roy Keane sidelined by a hamstring injury he suffered playing for the Republic of Ireland, the loss of Nicky Butt with a groin strain shortly before half-time leaves manager Sir Alex Ferguson with a major problem in central midfield for Tuesday's opening Champions' League match against Croatia Zagreb at Old Trafford. He had to plug the gap yesterday by bringing on Ronnie Wallwork, the young centre-half whose career will be in the balance this week when a Belgian court rules on his appeal against a life ban imposed by the Belgian FA for allegedly attacking a referee in the players' tunnel while he was on loan to Antwerp. But Wallwork could not be registered for the Champions' League in such circumstances. Ferguson must also bring in Raimond van der Gouw for Massimo Taibi, the £4.5 million goalkeeper who was given a daunting debut by Ferguson yesterday. Taibi, who had an interpeter behind his goal to help him communicate with his defenders, was badly at fault for Liverpool's first goal but redeemed himself with saves from Patrik Berger, Vladimir Smicer and Robbie Fowler that Ferguson named him man of the match. Taibi had little to do for most of the first half. United controlled the shape and the tempo of the match so well that an awkward 25-yarder from Fowler and a blistering left-footer from Berger were the only shots he had to save. He came for Jamie Redknapp's long diagonal free-kick after 23 minutes but missed and Hyypia dived to score with a header. But, by then, the ball had ended up in their own net twice. It was put there first by Carragher when, after only three minutes, the young defender headed Giggs' centre into the far corner as he raced towards his own goal. Sander Westerveld, Liverpool's Dutch goalkeeper, had just as little chance of saving when Cole rose virtually unopposed to thump a header past him from a flighted free-kick by Beckham, who was fortunate to stay on the pitch after taking kicks at Steven Gerrard and Redknapp. Liverpool should have had the chance to equalise after 29 minutes but the referee, Graham Barber, failed to spot Butt's handling of a Berger corner in the penalty area. Since Barber also ignored the incident in which Liverpool's David Thompson pulled Giggs back by the shirt at the other end, it was even on that score. Not so in terms of goals. United scored a third just before the interval when Henning Berg launched himself at another of Beckham's inviting free-kicks and his header ricocheted in off Carragher's arm. Even before Cole was sent off for wrestling with, and taking a kick at Rigobert Song, the striker's second bookable offence, Liverpool had won control of the game. But as they drove forward, Taibi made excellent saves from Smicer, on for Thompson, and Fowler before Berger ran on to a pass from Dominic Matteo and slipped the ball past the keeper from an acute angle with 22 minutes left to play. Houllier used what he hoped would be his trump card by sending on Michael Owen for Titi Camara and Vegard Heggem for Gerrard after 64 minutes, but the best even Owen could manage was the shot he rolled past Taibi and against the outside of a post. Telegraph
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Subject: 365 Report - LIVERPOOL 2 MANCHESTER UNITED 3 Michael Owen is on stand-by to make his first full start of the season - and offer a major cash boost to Third Division Hull. The young England star could well be on from the start on Tuesday at Boothferry Park as Liverpool face the first leg of their Worthington Cup clash with the side who are 17th in the Nationwide League basement. It is being screened live on Sky, but Hull's stadium could well have a 13,000 capacity to see Owen start his first match in five months. After the shambolic defensive display that cost Liverpool a 3-2 defeat by Manchester United on Saturday morning, Anfield chief Gerard Houllier will turn to bolstering his attack now that Owen has played three 20-minute bursts as substitute for club and country inside a week. Owen is clearly now fit, and Houllier left him on the bench at Anfield to play fair with the players - most notably Titi Camara - who so impressively beat Arsenal a fortnight ago. But there is little point now in not giving Owen a full match after his recovery from a hamstring injury. A much gentler introduction at Hull has clearly been preferred than throwing the teenager into a top Premiership clash. But while Houllier gave up trying to make a case for his defence after the United defeat, he will know that Owen's return up front to partner Robbie Fowler is just as important to Liverpool than plugging the constantly alarming gaps in their back line. Houllier could even use £3.5m defender Stephane Henchoz in some capacity at Hull. The Swiss defender played a full international against Belarus last weekend, against Liverpool's wishes. They complained to UEFA and the Swiss FA because Henchoz hadn't played any sort of match since his summer hernia operation. But the giant defender got through the game unscathed, and his presence at the heart of Liverpool's defence is now clearly needed. With midfielder Vladimir Smicer also back after a groin injury, and a second-half substitute against United, Houllier could well have all his summer signings available - apart from Dietmar Hamann - by the end of the week and in contention to play at Leicester on Saturday. That will help Houllier get over his exasperation at the re-emergence of the defensive shortcomings Liverpool just can't seem to solve whatever nationality wears a shirt in their back four. Houllier didn't try a cover-up after seeing Jamie Carragher score two own goals and Andy Cole head home virtually unopposed in the first half against United. ''We couldn't handle positioning at free kicks, and it makes it difficult for everybody,'' said Houllier. ''Seeing us come back so strongly after the break didn't make me feel any happier. We defended too deeply, we seemed frightened of the swerve on the ball when it came in from the likes of David Beckham. ''We didn't give our goalkeeper the chance to sweep behind the back line. If you want to beat Manchester United you can't make the kind of mistakes we did. Jamie owned up to the final touch on their second goal. But really there were two chances to clear the ball before it went in. We should have got something from the game, but when you give away two own goals against a side of the calibre of Manchester United, you know you are going to be punished. ''We have to accept that there are three factors we must face up to if we are going to match teams like United. Firstly we have to stop making these mistakes and we also have to improve the pace and control of our passing. And we have to learn to contain teams who switch play so quickly from end to end like United do. We have to learn to turn our own possession into quick attacks like they did. United now have beaten ourselves, Arsenal and Leeds already this season. They have shown their standards again and all I can hope is that the Champions League tires them out otherwise they will have pulled away from the rest.'' But first things first. Houllier needs Owen back to give his attack that extra dimension, and he needs Henchoz at the heart of his defence to take the pressure off Sami Hyypia in the air, and stop relying on Carragher when surely his best position is central midfield. As Houllier said before the match, Liverpool have still got a very long way to go before they can start being talked of as championship contenders. United made short work of that fanciful claim on Saturday morning. Meanwhile, Ronnie Wallwork desperately hopes his first Manchester United appearance of the season will not be the last of his career. The centre-half was pitched into the fray at Anfield as an emergency midfielder when he replaced the injured Nicky Butt for only his second Premiership appearance. Wallwork played his part in United's rearguard action following Andy Cole's dismissal as they recorded their sixth successive league win to open up a six-point lead at the top of the table. A Cole header was sandwiched by two Carragher own goals, while Hyypia and Patrik Berger scored for the Merseysiders. Wallwork's glee following the victory could be shortlived and on Friday he may be told that he will never kick a ball again for United or any other professional club. That is the date set for his appeal hearing against a life ban imposed for attacking a referee in Belgium last season while on loan at Royal Antwerp. Wallwork was banned after the Belgian football authorities found him guilty of grabbing the official by the throat at the end of a Second Division play-off match against La Louviere. Wallwork's United team-mate Danny Higginbotham, who was also on loan at Antwerp, was banned for a year for his part in the fracas. Wallwork, who was 22 on Friday, had his sentence temporarily lifted ahead of his appeal and he admits it was hard playing against Liverpool with the ban hanging over him. ''It's good that they have suspended the sentence for two weeks and hopefully they will not send me down for life,'' he said. ''It was hard against Liverpool and I just had to concentrate when I got on the pitch. The gaffer told me to concentrate and I did just that.'' United boss Sir Alex Ferguson was stunned by the severity of the sentence and Wallwork claims he has been a huge help. ''The manager has stuck by me and said he will help me out with anything that happens,'' he said on MUTV. ''He's been very supportive of me.'' Although Wallwork is allowed to play again, he is not eligible for United's opening Champions League group game against Croatia Zagreb at Old Trafford on Tuesday. United could not register Wallwork because he was banned at the time and he is one of 11 players ruled out of the match. Italian goalkeeper Massimo Taibi and French defender Mickael Silvestre, who made their debuts at Anfield, are unavailable because they were not signed before the Champions League transfer deadline. Nicky Butt (groin), Roy Keane (hamstring), Jesper Blomqvist (knee), Denis Irwin (Achilles), Gary Neville (groin), Wes Brown (knee), David May (knee) and Ronny Johnsen (knees) have all been ruled out. Ferguson admits it will be difficult to choose his side and he said: ''I've a real problem for Tuesday. I don't have Silvestre, Denis or Gary Neville, although Phil Neville should be all right after he came off with a touch of illness against Liverpool. ''It seems the natural thing to bring Michael Clegg in at right back because Wallwork is not registered. We have a problem in midfield and obviously Scholes is OK, Giggs is OK and Beckham is OK so there's three.'' Ferguson is likely to move David Beckham inside to centre midfield alongside Paul Scholes and deploy Jonathan Greening on the right. He also needs another goalkeeper and Mark Bosnich could face the Croatian champions, who are managed by Ossie Ardiles, after resuming training following his hamstring injury. Whatever team Ferguson fields he will expect them to start well and he does not want to give Zagreb the sniff of an upset against the Treble winners. ''Croatia Zagreb have a lot of quality and I think it's important in that kind of game to get a start,'' he said. ''No matter what team I play, they've got to get a start.''
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