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Date: Thu Jun 10 04:34:50 EDT 1999
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This Issue:
1. Re: Ask the Statman
2. Bulgaria 1-1 England
5. Bus Parade account


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Subject: Re: Ask the Statman > >Could you please forward this to Statman Paul. The email address below >just returns the message to me. Have a read of his answer it's >fantastically interesting. >Thanks, >Geoff > > >Thanks Paul. Amazing, fasinating stuff... > >You leave United for Liverpool at your peril.. >Feb 1954 Tommy McNulty (Full-Back) 7000...56-58 United Double League >Champions!! >Apr 1964 Phil Chisnall (Forward) 25,000...65 & 67 United Double League >Champions , Euro Champions 68!! >And then there's Paul Ince. >Maybe this is where the term 'to kop out' comes from! > >What's very interesting is that once Sir Matt arrived he stopped signing > >Liverpool players completely. Do you think this was a concious decision >given Sir Matts playing career at Liverpool? (I wonder if his tranfer >dealings with City follow a similar trend ) > >Thanks again Paul. You've supplied great stats to back up my boasts. >Cheers, >Geoff > > > The MasterFan 99 wrote: > >> ===================================================================== >> >> Date: Friday, June 4, 1999 >> Time: 8:13 PM EST >> >> Submitted by: Geoff Carew >> Email address: gcarew@iol.ie >> Subject: Ask the StatMan >> >> question: Hi Paul, >> Just read the school report - Great stuff! >> Who apart from Paul Ince has gone from Old Trafford to Liverpool? I'd >also be interested to know if any players went the other way.And has >anyone ever gone directly from one to the other? >> Thanks, >> Geoff >> >> >============================================================================ > >> The following have gone directly from Liverpool to United: >> Aug 1912 Tom Chorlton (Full Back) >> Sep 1920 Tom Miller (Forward) 2000 >> Feb 1929 Tommy Reid (Forward) >> Jan 1938 Ted Savage (Half-Back) >> Nov 1938 Allenby Chilton (Half-Back) >> >> The following have gone directly from United to Liverpool: >> Nov 1913 John Sheldon (Forward) >> May 1921 Fred Hopkin (Forward) >> Feb 1954 Tommy McNulty (Full-Back) 7000 >> Apr 1964 Phil Chisnall (Forward) 25,000 >> >> As you can see, it is a select few. >> Apart from Paul Ince I cannot think of any others to play for both >> clubs. John Gidman and Ted MacDougall were >> on Liverpools books but did not make the first team.
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Subject: Bulgaria 1-1 England England wasted the chance to take a significant stride towards the European Championships, as they stumbled to a draw against 10-man Bulgaria in Sofia. The result keeps Kevin Keegan's qualification hopes alive - but the coach will have expected a victory when Bulgarian substitute Martin Petrov was sent off in the second half. And he will not have been too impressed by a scratchy performance against a side whose chances of reaching the finals were already over. Skipper Alan Shearer put England ahead in the 15th minute with a piece of vintage centre-forward play. Everything looked healthy for the visitors following an impressive start - but within three minutes Bulgaria were level through Georgi Markov. After their early moments of dominance - led by their three-pronged strikeforce - England's threat faded. And even when Petrov was sent off for a second bookable offence they could find no way through. Stoichkov stars There were frequent scares at the back for England's three-man defence on an uneven pitch, as Bulgaria's veteran striker Hristo Stoichkov produced a virtuoso display in his last international game. One of the few signs of optimism for England came in the performance of teenager Jonathon Woodgate. The Leeds defender showed he has the temperament for international football with an assured debut, which included one stunning tackle from behind to deny Radostin Kishishev a near certain goal. Woodgate was unlucky to be replaced in the second half, as Keegan sought to exploit the numerical advantage by switching to a 4-4-2 formation. But even the reshuffle could not provide the breakthrough as Bulgaria condemned England to another draw. Redknapp denied England were clearly in determined mood at the start following the adject display in the 0-0 draw with Sweden last Saturday and they thought they had gone ahead in the 12th minute. Jamie Redknapp's spectacular 30-yard free-kick arrowed into the top corner of Dimitar Ivankov's goal, but it was ruled out because the referee was not ready - to the disgust of England's players. But the setback did not prove too costly, as two minutes later England were ahead - thanks to a Sunderland-Newcastle combination. Sunderland's Michael Gray produced a deep cross from the left which caused chaos in the Bulgarian penalty area. Newcastle striker Shearer instantly latched onto a under-hit clearance, before swivelling and sending a low shot across the keeper into the far corner of the net. It was the England captain's first goal in open play for his country for almost a year. Bulgaria bounce back But within three minutes Bulgaria were level. One-time European Footballer of the Year Stoichkov sent a powerful cross to the far post, where Georgi Markov stole in to head the ball from close range past a leaden-footed David Seaman. Stoichkov was beginning to enjoy himself and eight minutes before half-time he carved open the England defence with a surging run and cross - but somehow Hristo Yovov missed the most straightforward of chances, scuffing the ball wide from three yards out, with the goal gaping. England's big chance of victory came with half-an-hour left when Martin Petrov was sent off for a second bookable offence, after clattering Sol Campbell in the air. It was an inauspicious introduction to the international scene for Petrov, who had been on the pitch for just eight minutes. Teddy Sheringham put a header narrowly wide and David Batty saw a long-range shot saved by Ivankov, but otherwise England failed to produce too much of a attacking threat. Bulgaria were at least as effective as England going forward, Stoichkov going close following another of his trademark bullish runs and Seaman saving well from Milen Petkov. Keegan can at least take consolation from the fact that victory in Poland in the autumn could still secure England's place in a qualification play-off. Teams: Bulgaria: Ivankov, Kichichev, Zagorchich, Stoilov, Markov, Kirilov, S Petrov, Stoichkov, Yovov, M Petkov, Iliev. Subs: Gospodinov, Borimirov, Grouev, Stoianov, I Petkov, Batchev, M Petrov. England: Seaman, Gray, Neville, Southgate, Campbell, Woodgate, Redknapp, Batty, Sheringham, Shearer, Fowler. Subs: Ferdinand, Walker, Sherwood, Parlour, Dyer, Cole, Heskey. Referee: Mario Van Der Ende (Holland)
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Subject: REDS TAKE ON THE WORLD By Wynne Galf Tuesday, June 08, 1999 06:00 Reds fans already claim that Manchester United is by far the greatest team in the world. On 30 November 1999, the treble-winners will try to substantiate that statement by winning the World Club Championship for the first time. As the champions of Europe, United will take on the champions of South America in a global version of 'It's A Knockout' in Tokyo, Japan. The Reds' only previous WCC appearance, in 1968, ended in defeat by Estudiantes of Argentina. It was a stormy affair, particularly the first leg in Buenos Aires when Sir Matt Busby's legendary players were effectively kicked off the park in a 1-0 defeat. As the great manager himself said, "Holding the ball out there put you in danger of your life." Nobby Stiles would certainly testify to that, having been punched and butted during the game. Topping that, it was the United man, rather than his assailants, who was first booked for displaying a toothless grin to the referee, and later sent off, for pulling his socks up in an aggressive manner. George Best was the only United player who 'scored' on the trip. Even soccer legend Bobby Charlton was questioned by secret police about why he had shaved his head. It was just as bad off the pitch. In the Directors Box, Chairman Louis Edwards had his cigar snatched off him and rammed up his nose, whilst the poor Kit Man was arrested, had electrodes attached to his gonads, was tried for crimes against the State, and was finally executed in the Eva Peron Stadium before a good-natured Bank Holiday crowd. Around 500 Reds made the one-way trip, many of them disappearing after a visit to the local Frey Bentos Meat Pie factory. A spokesman said "Most of them were being used on the production line, mainly for filling in." George Best was then shown the red card in the second leg at Old Trafford for dribbling past an opponent, before Brian Kidd was dismissed for wearing a provocative number 8 on his back. A lapse in concentration by the referee enabled Willie Morgan to score for a 1-1 draw on the night, but a 2-1 defeat on aggregate. Let's hope there's more football, and less controversy, in this year's one-off match. The World Club Championship trophy would certainly make a worthy addition to United's trophy cabinet. Tickets for the game are available now from the Nippon Stadium, Tokyo, to supporters able to produce a full Token Sheet from the 1967-68 Season, from 9.30am to 1pm today. Prices range from 3000-8000 yen.
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Subject: SCHMEICHEL: HUGHES CAN DO THE JOB Peter Schmeichel believes that his former Manchester United team-mate Mark Hughes will make a tremendous manager. The Great Dane comes face to face with Hughes, and another Old Trafford pal in Ryan Giggs, tomorrow Euro 2000 qualifying clash at Anfield. And the Denmark star's glowing endorsement of Hughes' qualities will make interesting reading for the Football Association of Wales. They have appointed Hughes and Neville Southall as joint caretaker bosses in the wake of Bobby Gould's shock resignation in Bologna on Saturday after the 4-0 defeat by Italy. Whether one of them gets the job permanently, or they are appointed as a partnership, will depend very much on the result at Anfield. The FAW's council meet at the end of the month to decide their future but Schmeichel maintains Hughes, especially, has what it takes to be a boss. Schmeichel, playing in his last game in Britain before quitting United after their Treble triumph, said: "Mark and Neville have got the job for this one game. "And although I don't want them to be too successful in this match, I know they both want the job and both of them in their own way deserve to get their chance to be manager. "On the international scene they are two massive names and that can only benefit Wales. After Anfield, I wish them both all the best. "Bobby Gould quitting surprised me because only a couple of months ago he was talking about qualifying for the finals. But that is Wales' problem, not ours." Speaking specifically about his old friend Hughes, Schmeichel added: "For Mark, if he could get that job it's a great chance for him to make his mark as a manager. "He has managerial ability. He's experienced and been with a number of clubs where he's seen the ups and the downs. He's been around and has got a lot to offer the game. "You see players like him stepping straight from playing into management and they surprise you. I think he will do well." Schmeichel is also wary of facing the 35-year-old Southampton striker with so much at stake. He said: "I've faced him a few times on the pitch now. He's a very difficult player to play against. "You think you have won the ball but he still seems to get a pass or shot in. He's a fantastic player, one of the best I have ever played with. "And as far as management lessons, he could not have had a better person than Alex Ferguson to learn from. We can both say that. "Our manager has done extremely well wherever he's been. He's got this driving force and wants to win every game." Schmeichel has never faced Giggs in a competitive game, and has an interesting view on why the winger never seems to play as well for Wales as he does for United. "Maybe he's not being played in the same way he is with United. He seems to be played in different positions. "It's all about pace and passing and he's best on the wing. Maybe for Wales he doesn't play in that role too often." Danish boss Bo Johansson, a friend of Gould's, was stunned by his departure. He said: "It is impossible to know how Wales will react to their manager resigning. "It did surprise me, especially how it happened like that after a match. "And yes, sometimes when a manager goes the players do seem to raise themselves for the next game. "What we do know is that we will be playing against a team with tremendous fighting spirit, and knowing what has happened Wales will face us with an even greater spirit." The Welsh players know that player power is being blamed for the rapid exit of Gould in Italy, and they know the spotlight is firmly on them to rescue their Euro 2000 dreams. Southall has been handed that job, in conjunction with Hughes, and the former Everton goalkeeper said: "The players have shown their commitment in training so far, and their determination and ability to come back and to put things right. "At club level you get the chance to put things right quickly after a bad result, and we have this chance to do the same at international level. "They are resourceful, and lifting players to represent their country should not be a difficult task." Southall added: "We can't do anything about Saturday's result, it is gone. Footballers never look back unless they have won something, we all have to look forward now. "Denmark are a fine side, we don't need lifting to play against them. Maybe against a lesser team it would be harder, but this is a real challenge for us. "They have the best goalkeeper in the world and we know we have to beat him." Wales could have defender Chris Coleman back after injury, while Robbie Savage is available after suspension. But whether Southall and Hughes plan to change the formation to a 4-4-2 system, and where Ryan Giggs plays, is being kept a secret. Southall added: "It's been quite extraordinary how well the lads have trained. "They know the importance of this game. They know we haven't got time to get it perfect, but they have been passionate and committed. Their attitude has been spot on. "If we show the same attitude and passion on Wednesday that we have seen in training, we won't be far wrong. "What we can promise is that we will fight for every minute because we know how important this game is." Wales (probable): Jones (Southampton), Robinson (Charlton), Coleman (Fulham), Page (Watford), Symons (Fulham), Barnard (Barnsley), Speed (Newcastle), Hughes (Southampton), Savage (Leicester), Giggs (Manchester United), Saunders (Benfica).
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Subject: Bus Parade account The parade on Deansgate was a great occasion. I arrived at Deansgate at 5pm and didn't see the players until 8pm or so and it was crazy. The luckiest people in my view were the shop owners who could get a eye-level view with the players as they occupied the first floor from their shops, Blacks camping shop for example. Down at ground level it was a poor view as being only 5ft 8, my view was often restricted. I managed to get infront of the bus momentarily only to pushed out the way by the crowd. The bus passed and i went behind it and thats when it got dangerous. The masses that had followed the bus from Old Trafford surged up behind me and virtually swept me and other people off their feet. This was quite a nervy moment for many young kids as if they fell over, they would have been trampled on by the thousands that went by. There was a young girl who collapsed nearby and the ambulance blokes were anxiously getting people to walk round them as they were restricting their work. The noise level before the bus came was dead quiet, when it did come, the noise just erupted, songs about Jip Jaap, Ole, Teddy Teddy and so on stung my ears as the sound built up from the Nowhere bar to the MEN Arena. People were hanging off lamposts, people's shoulders, walls and some unlucky bloke when i walked past Kendals department store was lying on the ground, being attended to by paramedics, looking like he fell off the roof. He was unconscious when i walked passed him. Later in the week, i discovered this poor chap tripped off the roof, fell 10-12 feet and broke his arm!! Ouch!! I managed to grab 4 or 5 pictures of the passing bus when i was infront of it, Cole looked pissed, Yorkie had his arm round Cole, Teddy had his cap on back to front and Keano looked really miserable sat at the back-left of the bus, obviously thinking he was not part of the team that won the cup but he is part of it. The players just looked amazed by the amount of people that were there, just waving their hands at the crowd on auto-pilot. I didn't realise how full Deansgate was of people till i saw the TV pictures as you can't really see that far ahead of you when you are at ground level. Getting nearer Kendals was particularly dangerous, i almost broke my ankle stepping on the thousands of bottles strewn across the road. At this point, kids were crying, either for the fact they had seen the players, or for the fact that the large crowd seemed intimidating, which it was as it was getting dangerous as people were pushing and falling over due to being slightly too drunk. The teenage girls certainly enjoyed seeing the bus, "Ooo, Becks is gorgeous!" to "Cor, Yorkie is f*&king nice!". Make your own mind up! The bottles on the floor crunched and cracked under the thousands of feet. The Moon under Water pub was where the densest bottles were to be found. I followed the bus all the way to the MEN Arena and saw the bus enter the stadium. The noise was still there as the bus disappeared. The kids who were in the music school opposite the MEN Arena, mostly girls had to endure the rendition of "Get your T*ts out for the lads!" which lasted for 20 or so seconds before embarrasment came over the singers of this sexist song! A once in a lifetime event!! Thats as much as i can remember!! Berni
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