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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS Date: Thu Apr 08 22:18:38 EDT 1999 Mail: email@example.com This Issue: 1. All time UNITED FA Cup Semi-Final Stats 2. The Old Lady shows her muscles - OUR SALFORD LASS 3. Wot No Noise? - Personal report by RED KELLY 4. Touts' by OUR SALFORD LASS 5. Chris The Yank #2 6. JUVE SEEN NOTHING YET, WARNS KEANE 7. Ferguson strives for right balance in Turin return ++++++=========+++++++========+++++++++========++++++++ ALL 1998/99 Results & Fixtures: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm Next Games: APRIL 99 11 Arsenal (FAC)(N) 12.30 UK FA Cup Semi-Final; at Villa Park; Live Sky Sports Uk 17 Sheff Wed (PL) (H) 15.00 UK 21 Juventus (EC) (A) 19.45 UK European Cup Semi-Final 25 Leeds (PL) (A) 11.30 UK Live Sky Sports UK ALL UNITED Results since 1886: http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/ *** LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 06/04/99 *** Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts --------------------------------------------------------- 1 Manchester United 31 18 10 3 69 32 37 64 2 Arsenal 32 17 12 3 43 13 30 63 3 Chelsea 30 16 11 3 45 23 22 59 4 Leeds United 31 16 9 6 52 28 24 57 5 West Ham United 32 13 8 11 34 40 -6 47 6 Aston Villa 32 12 10 10 41 39 2 46 7 Derby County 31 11 11 9 35 36 -1 44 8 Liverpool 30 12 7 11 57 41 16 43 9 Middlesbrough 31 10 13 8 42 41 1 43 10 Newcastle United 32 11 9 12 43 45 -2 42 11 Wimbledon 32 10 11 11 36 48 -12 41 12 Tottenham Hotspur 31 9 13 9 35 37 -2 40 13 Sheffield Wednesday 32 11 5 16 38 36 2 38 14 Leicester City 30 9 11 10 32 39 -7 38 15 Coventry City 32 10 7 15 34 43 -9 37 16 Charlton Athletic 31 7 10 14 34 41 -7 31 17 Blackburn Rovers 32 7 10 15 32 43 -11 31 18 Everton 32 7 10 15 26 40 -14 31 19 Southampton 32 8 6 18 28 57 -29 30 20 Nottingham Forest 32 4 9 19 30 64 -34 21 *** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 21/03/99 *** Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend. -------------------------------------------------------------------- 15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052 22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039 09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147 12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193 20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142 24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181 03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251 17/10/98 Wimbledon Home W 5-1 2 55,265 24/10/98 Derby County Away D 1-1 2 30,867 31/10/98 Everton Away W 4-1 2 40,079 08/11/98 Newcastle United Home D 0-0 3 55,174 14/11/98 Blackburn Rovers Home W 3-2 2 55,198 21/11/98 Sheffield Wednesday Away L 1-3 2 39,475 29/11/98 Leeds United Home W 3-2 2 55,172 05/12/98 Aston Villa Away D 1-1 2 39,241 12/12/98 Tottenham Hotspur Away D 2-2 1 36,079 16/12/98 Chelsea Home D 1-1 2 55,159 19/12/98 Middlesbrough Home L 2-3 3 55,152 26/12/98 Nottingham Forest Home W 3-0 3 55,216 29/12/98 Chelsea Away D 0-0 3 34,741 10/01/99 West Ham United Home W 4-1 3 55,180 16/01/99 Leicester City Away W 6-2 2 22,091 31/01/99 Charlton Athletic Away W 1-0 1 20,043 03/02/99 Derby County Home W 1-0 1 55,174 06/02/99 Nottingham Forest Away W 8-1 1 30,025 17/02/99 Arsenal Home D 1-1 1 55,171 20/02/99 Coventry City Away W 1-0 1 22,596 27/02/99 Southampton Home W 2-1 1 55,316 13/03/99 Newcastle United Away W 2-1 1 36,500 21/03/99 Everton Home W 3-1 1 55,182 03/04/99 Wimbledon Away D 1-1 1 26,121 *** TEAM RESULTS SUMMARY - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 21/03/99 *** P Won Drawn Lost For Against Points ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Home 16 11 (69%) 4 (25%) 1 (6%) 38 (2.4) 16 (1.0) 37 (2.3) Away 14 7 (50%) 5 (36%) 2 (14%) 30 (2.1) 15 (1.1) 26 (1.9) Total 30 18 (60%) 9 (30%) 3 (10%) 68 (2.3) 31 (1.0) 63 (2.1) Averages per game in (brackets) *** TEAM STATISTICS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 21/03/99 *** AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 55,183 HIGHEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 27/02/99 - Southampton (55,316) LOWEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 15/08/98 - Leicester City (55,052) BEST WIN: 06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1) HEAVIEST DEFEAT: 20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3) BEST HOME WIN: 17/10/98 - Wimbledon (5-1) HEAVIEST HOME DEFEAT: 19/12/98 - Middlesbrough (2-3) BEST AWAY WIN: 06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1) HEAVIEST AWAY DEFEAT: 20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3) ************************************************************* CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE: ------------------ GROUP D P W D L F A Pts Bayern Munich 6 3 2 1 9 6 11 Man United 6 2 4 0 20 11 10 Barcelona 6 2 2 2 11 9 8 Brondby 6 1 0 5 4 18 3 ************************************************************* CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE QUARTER-FINALS -------------------------------- Manchester Utd 2 - 0 Inter Milan Real Madrid 1 - 1 Dynamo Kiev Juventus 2 - 1 Olympiakos Bayern Munich 2 - 0 Kaiserslautern **DYNAMO KIEV 2 - 0 REAL MADRID (Agg:3-1) FC KAISERSLAUTERN 0 - 4 **BAYERN MUNICH (Agg:0-6) INTERNAZIONALE FC 1 - 1 **MANCHESTER UNITED (Agg:1-3) OLYMPIAKOS 1 - 1 **JUVENTUS (Agg:2-3) ************************************************************* CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE SEMI-FINALS ----------------------------- Manchester Utd 1-1 Juventus Bayern Munchen 3-3 Dynamo Kiev (2nd leg to be played 21 Apr 99) ************************************************************* ++++++=========+++++++========+++++++++========++++++++
Subject: All time UNITED FA Cup Semi-Final Stats 1909 (Bramall Lane) 40,118 UNITED 1 (Halse) Newcastle 0 (United won Cup) 1926 (Bramall Lane) 46,450 UNITED 0 Manchester City 3 1948 (Hillsborough) 60,000 UNITED 3 (Pearson 3) Derby County 1 (United won Cup) 1949 (Hillsbrough) 62,250 UNITED 1 (Mitten) Wolverhampton Wanderers 1 aet 1949 (Goodison Park) 73,000 UNITED 0 Wolverhampton Wanderers 1 1957 (Hillsborough) 65,107 UNITED 2 (Berry, Charlton) Birmingham City 0 1958 (Villa Park) 69,745 UNITED 2 (Charlton 2) Fulham 2 1958 (Highbury) 38,000 UNITED 5 (Dawson 3, Charlton, Brennan) Fulham 3 1962 (Hillsborough) 65,000 UNITED 1 (Herd) Tottenham Hotspur 3 1963 (Villa Park) 65,000 UNITED 1 (Law) Southampton 0 (United won Cup) 1964 (Hillsborough) 65,000 UNITED 1 (Law) West Ham United 3 1965 (Hillsborough) 65,000 UNITED 0 Leeds United 0 1965 (City Ground) 46,300 UNITED 0 Leeds United 1 1966 (Burnden Park) 60,000 UNITED 0 Everton 1 1970 (Hillsborough) 55,000 UNITED 0 Leeds United 0 1970 (Villa Park) 62,500 UNITED 0 Leeds United 0 1970 (Burnden Park) 56,000 UNITED 0 Leeds United 1 1976 (Hillsborough) 55,000 UNITED 2 (Hill 2) Derby County 0 1977 (Hillsborough) 55,000 UNITED 2 (Coppell, J.Greenhoff) Leeds United 1 (United won Cup) 1979 (Maine Road) 52,524 UNITED 2 (Jordan, B.Greenhoff) Liverpool 2 1979 (Goodison Park) 53,069 UNITED 1 (J.Greenhoff) Liverpool 0 1983 (Villa Park) 46,535 UNITED 2 (Robson, Whiteside) Arsenal 1 (United won Cup) 1985 (Goodison Park) 51,690 UNITED 2 (Robson, Stapleton) Liverpool 2 1985 (Maine Road) 45,775 UNITED 2 (Robson, Hughes) Liverpool 1 (United won Cup) 1990 (Maine Road) 44,026 UNITED 3 (Robson, Webb, Wallace) Oldham Athletic 3 aet 1990 (Maine Road) 35,005 UNITED 2 (McClair, Robins) Oldham Athletic 1 aet (United won Cup) 1994 (Wembley) 56,399 UNITED 1 (Hughes) Oldham Athletic 1 aet 1994 (Maine Road) 32,311 UNITED 4 (Irwin, Kanchelskis, Robson, Giggs) Oldham Athletic 1 (United won Cup) 1995 (Villa Park) 38,256 UNITED 2 (Irwin, Pallister) Crystal Palace 2 aet 1995 (Villa Park) 18,897 UNITED 2 (Bruce, Pallister) Crystal Palace 0 1996 (Villa Park) 38,421 UNITED 2 (Cole, Beckham) Chelsea 1 (United won Cup) Summary: Bramall Lane P2 W1 D0 L1 F1 A3 Hillsborough P9 W4 D3 L2 F12 A9 Goodison Park P3 W1 D1 L1 F3 A3 VILLA PARK P7 W4 D3 L0 F11 A6 Highbury P1 W1 D0 L0 F5 A3 City Ground P1 W0 D0 L1 F0 A1 Burnden Park P2 W0 D0 L2 F0 A2 Maine Road P5 W3 D2 L0 F13 A8 Wembley P1 W0 D1 L0 F1 A1 TOTAL P31 W14 D10 L7 F46 A36 This is Uniteds 22nd FA Semi-Final, and previously we have not lost at Villa Park, in fact Leeds United were the last team to knock us out at this stage, back in 1970. Since then we have been successful in the last 9 Semi-Finals. Our FA Cup record against ARSENAL is as follows: 1906 4th Round (Bank Street) 26,500 UNITED 2 (Peddie, Sagar) Arsenal 3 1937 4th Round (Highbury) 45,637 Arsenal 5 UNITED 0 1951 5th Round (Old Trafford) 55,058 UNITED 1 (Pearson) Arsenal 0 1962 4th Round (Old Trafford) 54,082 UNITED 1 (Setters) Arsenal 0 1979 Final (Wembley) 100,000 UNITED 2 (McIlroy, McQueen) Arsenal 3 1983 Semi-Final (Villa Park) 46,535 UNITED 2 (Robson, Whiteside) Arsenal 1 1988 5th Round (Highbury) 54,161 Arsenal 2 UNITED 1 (McClair) P7 W3 D0 L4 F9 A14 On the one hand, it is the 20th anniversary of the dramatic Wembley meeting; on the other we won the only previous meeting at this stage held at the same venue.... -- Paul Hinson (email firstname.lastname@example.org) -- The best MANCHESTER UNITED STATS on the Web http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats.htm -- RESERVES AND JUNIORS http://www.red11.org/mufc/pontin.htm --
Subject: The Old Lady shows her muscles - OUR SALFORD LASS I arrived in Manchester yesterday afternoon to the sound of police sirens and Italians everywhere. All action was centred on Weatherspoons and I sat at the bus stop listening to the shoppers moaning about moronic football fans. Of course they had a point, as hoards of Red were running around Piccadilly at the time, throwing pint glasses at our visitors. I was feeling quite optimistic as I arrived at the Throstle's Nest to meet the son-and-heir and Pat Jennings. I had awoken with a sore throat and the beginnings of yet another deadly virus. Not something to feel excited about, you might think, but as this has happened before just about every Euro home game this season, I've begun to see it as a lucky omen (we football fans will grasp at anything, won't we?). The deadly duo eventually arrived, having had a hard afternoon's grafting in Weatherspoons. Yes, that same establishment where riots had broken out not more than an hour before! Pat insisted it had nothing to do with him as he swayed in his chair and kept muttering 'I'm only 8 stone!' He then spent the next hour playing with his new toy - sending a 'Live report from the Throstle's!' to the list and checking that no-one else in the pub had anything even remotely coming close to it in either cost or performance. Soon after, other list members started arriving and we had a very pleasant couple of hours trying not to talk too much about the game in case we got too nervous. Arriving in East Lower at about 7.30pm, we were joined by Tim who cheered me up immensely by telling me he had heard that season ticket renewals had gone out and we only had until the end of April to pay up! Thanks Tim, its being so cheery that keeps you going! We waved to Pat's young nephew, Daniel, who was sporting a new haircut and then the teams were out on the pitch. Zidane was hobbling around with his knee all bandaged up (easy to spot with his bald patch glowing in the lights) - amazing that he managed to recover miraculously as soon as the game started! The first half was surreal. I'm not sure whether it was the drugs coursing through my system (only Ibuprofen, before anyone asks), the fact that it was still light or the play on the pitch, but I was finding it hard to get into it. There was plenty of chanting and singing in the East Stand (with everyone being left to stand), but it didn't quite have the atmosphere of a Euro evening. Of course, it might have had something to do with the performance on the pitch, where Juventus were, as usual, giving us a lesson in how to play professional football. It was men against boys for most of the first half, and those around us were getting increasingly pissed off with Peter kicking the ball upfield to the Juventus defence, Scholes giving the ball away, and Becks giving a performance which was nowhere near his usual standard. As to Yorke and Neville - well both of them looked like they were still, mentally at least, in the dressing room. Only Andy was playing well. I was even heard to say we should bring Teddy on - not something you hear very often from my lips! When the Juventus goal came, it was no surprise. >From the moment that the move began we could see how it was going to end, with massive gaps in our defence. A stunned silence greeted the goal and the atmosphere never really recovered properly. From then on, it felt as if most of us were going through the motions, as the lethargy on the pitch spread to the stands. Half-time brought the arrival of Gary Pallister to do the draw - nice to hear his name echoing round the stadium again. Half-time also brought the arrival of the Sausage Man, who had been allowed out of the second tier for this one night, much to the excitement of the ladies of East Lower. Daniel also came down to get away from his drunken uncle for a few minutes, he wanted to stay with us for the second half, but was dragged kicking and screaming back to his seat. By midway through the second half, the mood had deteriorated still further and wasn't helped by Peter screaming at some fans because they hadn't returned the ball quickly enough. He was advised to turn his anger on his team-mates, where it belonged! Every time we got the ball, all eleven Juventus players were behind it and it looked like we would never get through. We gradually started to use the wide players better though, and Johnsen was a wise substitute for Berg as he is much faster and more versatile. Eventually, Fergie took my advise and substituted Yorke with Sheringham and we gave him some advice about how to make himself a United legend! And he very nearly did - from then on, the game changed. Teddy was getting to balls with his head and holding the ball up much better than Yorke had done, and it wasn't long before he had put the ball in the back of the net. The son-and-heir was, as usual, hugging a steward at the front (there's something going on between those two, I'm sure of it!) and generally going ballistic until my screaming 'it's off-side' eventually got through. Everyone at our end thought it was a goal and there was a lot of rude words spoken when the truth finally dawned. But they kept plugging away. We should have had a penalty but weren't given it, but then finally we got the piece of luck we had been waiting for. Teddy won the ball and got it into the box, Cole and another United player (can't remember who) fouled one of their defenders but the referee didn't see it and as the ball came loose, Giggs slammed it into the top of the net. This time, the son-and-heir could celebrate in earnest - the usual steward got his usual bearhug as we all went mental with relief. So an almost surreal Euro evening ended up 1-1, probably a better result that we deserved but one that certainly can be overcome in Turin. At the time, I was disappointed, but looking back at it now, I feel much better. I don't believe that Juventus are way ahead of us in skill and tactics, the way that most of the papers seem to be saying this morning. To me, it seems to be simply a mental thing - the players don't believe they can beat Juventus. That's the problem. Give them the belief and they can do it, I'm sure of it. Juventus came to do a job and they did it - with great professionalism, but they also allowed us to score an equaliser, they are not invincible, and I didn't see anything that led me to believe that our lads aren't their equals when they play well. Yorke looks overawed against decent European opposition, as I said last time, he is very inexperienced in Europe and it shows - but he will learn, and in the meantime we should start with Teddy (did I really say that??). And there were some plus points. Andy Cole was superb for the whole game, my man-of-the-match by a mile. When Yorke first came, it was he who sparked Andy into playing well, now Andy's moved beyond that. He was fast, skilful, strong - winning the ball on many occasions, and in my opinion as good as any Juventus player on the pitch. And even though we did not play as well as we would have all liked, we never gave up. There was a time when we would have folded, but not these days. As we've seen in the league and the FA Cup recently, this team doesn't give in until the final whistle goes. So, as you can see, I'm not too despondent. If anything, I think this will be good for us, because we won't go over there feeling over-confident (which we may have been this last few days - have they been believing too much of the hype?). Of course, all this optimism could just be the result of my poor state this morning! I spent most of last night with a soaring temperature, thrashing about in my bed reliving the match kick-by-kick. This morning, the whole world seems to be running at a different pace than I do, and every time I think about Sunday, I break into hysterical laughter! Oh well, its off to the funny farm for me then. How's the head this morning Pat?? :)) Copyright 1999 by OUR SALFORD LASS. All rights reserved. Not to be reproduced without permission of the author
Subject: Wot No Noise? - Personal report by RED KELLY I said as we made our way to the game last night, 'even if we lose I still think we'll go through,' and I have no reason to change that opinion. We deliberately set off early yesterday to make sure we could spend some time at the Throstles Nest as it has been ages since we were there. As there had been a couple of minor accidents on the M6 (so what's new) we decided to go up the M1 instead and had an easy journey arriving in Manchester around 5 o'clock. As we pulled into the carpark an announcement on the radio told us of trouble between the two sets of supporters away from the ground. Let's face it, there's no love lost, so perhaps we shouldn't have been surprised. Even at such an early hour Old Trafford was already buzzing and as we approached the forecourt it was pretty well packed. We fought our way past the multitude of Fartin's friends emerging from the Matchday Superstore at the corner of the ground with their arms laden with Megastore merchandise. Bearing in mind Terry's message yesterday about Sir Matt's birthday being on the same day as the European Final, we stopped and had a word with the great man as we passed the statue. There was already one other there craning his neck as he looked up, maybe having a word or two of his own, or maybe wondering who he was. It seems that the message takes a while to get through to heaven Terry, which is probably the explanation as to why it took us so long to score. Lost in the heavenly communication clouds perhaps, but we obviously didn't have a direct route through. Maybe the channels were being monitored by some goody goody who was looking down on the forecourt and could see nothing but inflatable red devils so decided to delay the message reaching it's destination. Other than dressing as the suggested 'lady luck' we did our best! First job done and Mick had to pay a visit to the Membership Office to sort out his return leg ticket for Juventus. They are begging people to buy tickets at the moment but strangely not many are taking them up on their generous offer. I'd have thought that =A350 odd for a ticket was pretty reasonable. Given the fact they were only =A316 last time the inflation in Italy must be incredible or have they just forgotten to change the currency and they are really 50 lira? The Membership Office windows have already been bricked up, presumably ready for the end of season developments at our end of the ground. They are temporarily housed a little further up Sir Matt Busby Way fighting for space with the programme stalls and fanzine sellers. As we made our way against the tide we stopped for a quick word with Barney and Kerry and then on up to the Nest. Last night it was full of listees too numerous to mention, 'always the same on Euro nights', Linda said. We like to make an early start for such special games, soak in some atmosphere, take time out to have a couple of pints and try and keep calm! With so much at stake it's difficult and the odd member was succumbing to frequent trips to the toilet. Having returned the morning before from a four day trip to a different time zone you could say I was relaxed. As my body still wasn't sure whether it was morning or evening, I'd say more disorientated would be closer to the point, but it helped me through what can be a nervous period prior to a big game. And while some were downing pints like there was no tomorrow, the rest of us tried not to talk too much about the game ahead, considering it better to keep our minds off it for as long as possible. With half an hour to go before kick-off we left the Nest and walked the long walk to Old Trafford. As we rounded the first bend and approached White City the crowds were becoming quite dense and by the time we reached Chester Road you couldn't see the tarmac. There had been a few frantic ticket exchanges in the pub and then on Chester Road, with Nigel in particular hopping around from foot to foot waiting for his to appear. Mick and I left them all with 15 minutes to go before kick-off and wandered down to the ground hand in pocket clutching mine (ticket that is). As per usual everyone was trying to get in at the last minute. Stay in the pubs as long as you can and then rush to the ground. The queues were immense at K Stand, so I snook in at East Lower, round the back and up the stairs to K arriving just in time to see the teams come out onto the pitch. The usual Euro hype was in evidence. The homogenisation of this competition has been in line with the rest of football. Media presence predominant, supporters take second place as long as they are kept in their place. More like kept out of their place by ticket price hikes, over zealous policing etc. No real supporters equates to no atmosphere. Homogenisation rules. I was standing at my usual seat next to Steve and my daughter Eliza who had managed to procure a ticket for somewhere else in K, but stood with us anyway. A certain amount of anarchy is still survives at Euros and aways thankfully. Anyway the faceless ones tend to make concessions to us at euros - well there is so much money at stake after all. The atmosphere was not as electric as usual for a European game which surprised me, it was the semi bloody final after all. It heated up a little over the first few minutes though when United were completely dominant, putting together some fine moves and coming very close to opening the scoring. Then what happened? Zidane and Davids took control and ran the midfield. Becks and Giggs had no joy from the two full-backs and frequently cut inside, with Andy and Dwight playing without much co-ordination. Congestion was the result which suited Juventus who stiffled United and played some great football. Having said that, United allowed them to, giving the ball away with alarming regularity. It was no surprise when they scored, the only surprise was that they didn't score more than the once, mostly thanks to Schmeichel making a couple of great saves along the way. The atmosphere went completely flat with a few trying in vain to encourage others to join in, but there was no spark on or off the pitch for most of the first half. For me it seemed to fly by though, and possibly just as well as the longer it went on the more chance United were going to concede another and effectively the tie would be over. Half time came and Gary Pallister came out onto the pitch to a huge welcome. Who says we don't treat our ex players well, the ones who haven't mouthed off that is. I went off downstairs for a wander and bumped into Barney again who was remarkably calm under the circumstances saying he didn't think it was possible we could play that badly again next half'. I wondered about his prophetic words as the second half began and we seemed to be in for more of the same, but gradually United took control and started to get that all important grip on midfield which allowed the wingers more space which would pin their defence back in it's own half where it belonged. But still we couldn't break through. I had started to look at my watch which is always a bad sign. Half an hour to go, twenty minutes to go, fifteen, ten........Yorke had gone off and Teddy had come on. We had thought it must have been Solskjaer standing on the touchline, but the introduction of Sheringham did change things. After a few minutes we thought he'd scored. Actually, we didn't know who it was, just that someone had dived in to deflect the cross into the net. As we celebrated the equaliser we suddenly realised the linesman had decided to raise his flag. He'd been off for a cup of tea and a meat and potato pie in the meantime, missed the 'goal' as he ran back onto the touchline with gravey all over his face, but still managed to instinctively reacted in Juve's favour in time for the ref to blow for no goal. How could this be? I thought that if there was a doubt, and surely there must have been for him to have waited that long to raise his flag, then the attacker should get the benefit of that doubt. Those are the rules aren't they, so we should have been at 1-1 with enough time left to win the game. But no, the referee seemed only too pleased to disallow the 'goal' and we were again left deflated. People began to sink into their seats with vague chants starting in the same few places in the crowd, they were mostly falling on deaf ears. Finally in injury time we experienced the relief we'd been preying for (well Mick had anyway). A ball won in the air fell to Giggs who smashed it into the net. Our heavenly call had finally got through. For a mere microsecond we looked over at the linesman who this time kept that bloody flag down and we were left to our celebrations, stopping briefly to check that the linesman hadn't changed his mind. Thank god for that. As Juventus had tired in those last few minutes we could easily have won with a bit more luck but to have drawn a game we looked like losing can sometimes be like a win. United didn't play well but Juventus did only score once. As we left the ground the feeling wasn't upbeat by any stretch of the imagination. We'd drawn our GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card and played it at the optimum moment. Surely we can't play as badly again, and surely we'll go through - I think we will. Copyright RED KELLY 1999. All rights reserved. Not to be reproduced without permission of the author
Subject: 'Touts' by OUR SALFORD LASS It always makes me laugh when the club starts making noises about touts. First of all, where do they think the touts get their tickets from? It's certainly not from the ordinary fan. Secondly, touts walk up and down quite openly on Sir Matt Busby Way and the club can't be arsed doing anything about it. I once went to get some tickets for a cup game and there were two touts on the pavement near the Superstore. As fans were leaving with their tickets, the touts were going up to them and offering all sorts of crazy prices for the tickets. I saw a couple of stewards watching them and asked why they didn't do something about it when it was illegal. They said that everyone at Old Trafford knows exactly who the touts are but never do anything about it. Now I wonder why? And the police are no better. Earlier this season, I was walking down Sir Matt Busby Way where a tout was standing quite openly shouting 'Does anyone need a ticket? 'There were two coppers standing two feet away from him and ignoring him. So it makes me laugh when they all go on about how terrible it is and how they're going to clamp down etc etc. If they really wanted to get rid of touts, they could do so easily. In the meantime, the surest way of getting rid of them of course is for fans not to buy a ticket off a tout! Copyright 1999 by OUR SALFORD LASS. All rights reserved. Not to be reproduced without permission of the author
Subject: Chris The Yank #2 'Through The Eyes Of a Yank' - Manchester United from the perspective of a teenage American Boy Hello fellow Manchester supporters, When I go into a chat and tell people who I support, I tell them the club with the best fans, Manchester United. I was truly overwhelmed by the response that I received for my column. I was really surprised when I checked my e-mail, and to my delight, seeing all the mail I had received. Keep it coming. I love when I receive mail. Also, you give me something to write about besides match reports. It was truly intimidating when I first started writing the column. Most of the people that read my column, are older and wiser. It is utterly weird to see the response that I get from people twice my age, saying that they LIKED my writing and it was very good. And I am only 15! Well, I admit, I didn't see the Wimbledon match. I caught some highlights on the Fox Sports Net show hosted Lionel Bienvenue. United was not on the ball. The whole team looked like their minds were somewhere else (hint: Juventus) The only bright spot in the match was when David Beckham scored a goal. I can empathize with United. They are going to play two of the biggest matches all year in a span of five days. First, they will take on the other Italian giant Juventus on Wednesday, then they will visit Villa Park on Sunday, and tangle with Arsenal, the second place team in the premiership. Ok, onto the Juventus match. The beginning of the match was fast and furious. Each side was going back and forth. It was a bit of a see-saw of a match. Frenchmen, Zinedine Zidane, the hero of the world cup, was nursing an injured knee, and Italian Alessandro DelPiero was no where to be seen. These were two advantages for United, considering they were a fully healthy team. United started the match with the upperhand, but the momentum quickly shifted. In the 25th minute, Juventus captain Antonio Conte fired a shot to the left of United keeper Peter Schmeichel and into the back of the net. The game progressed and half time the score was 1-0 Juventus' lead. At the begging of the second half, Henning Berg was replaced by Ronny Johnsen. United came out striking well, however Juventus was relentless stopping United at every turn. I began to lose home. Juventus was just showing us their capabillities. In the 68th minute Ferrara came in for an injured Montera. Then about five minutes later, Tacchinardi came in for DiLivio. Then within three minutes, Teddy Sheringham came in for Yorke to try and spark the United offense. It worked. Teddy, scored a goal, but the clearly intoxicated ref, called OFFSIDES! This put me into a coniption and slowly began to fall to my hands and knees praying for a United goal. God, answered my prayers. In injury time, when the game was just about over and all hope lost, Ryan Giggs reached into his bag of tricks and put the ball in the back of the net. So we are still alive and we do not have to climb such a big hill to win. The drunk ref blew his whistle and the game was at full time. Thank God!!! After the match, I sat thinking about what the score of the next game would have to be for United to win. To tie, there must be a score of 1-1. They could win by scoring 1-0, 2-1, 2-2 and so on. If they simply drew 0-0, Juventus would win because they have more away goals. This is so nerve racking, and you know what the beauty part about is, we must wait thirteen days. Why can't we just play tomarrow? -Chris the Yank RED at night UNITED delight! Contact me and tell me what you think about my column. Thriftygod@hotmail.com ICQ # 8544802 AOL Instant Messenger - ThRiFtYGoD
Subject: JUVE SEEN NOTHING YET, WARNS KEANE By David Anderson, PA Sport Ladbrokes lose faith in United Juve more than happy with draw Away goal-specialists Manchester United are confident they can score against Juventus in Turin and reach their first Champions' League final in 31 years. Antonio Conte's goal at Old Trafford means United must score at least once in the semi-final second leg in the Stadio delle Alpi to win the tie. That is a stiff proposition, but United have scored 12 goals on their last four trips and believe they can find the back of the net in Italy. Skipper Roy Keane is adamant they are still in with a chance even though the 1-1 first-leg scoreline was not what they had wanted. 'Two or three nil would have been ideal and we're disappointed to concede the away goal,' he said. 'But that's football and we always make life hard for ourselves. We'll keep going and we're confident of scoring over there. 'We know we're capable of scoring over there and fingers crossed we will.' Denis Irwin echoed Keane's battlecry and he pointed to United's impressive scoring record on their travels. He added that often this season they have played better away from home. 'We know we didn't play that well against them here, but then our best performances have come away from home,' he said. 'We've gone away and scored plenty of goals this season. We've been to Barcelona, Brondby, Bayern Munich and Inter Milan and scored plenty of goals. 'So I don't see any reason why we can't go over to Turin and score goals. Certainly there's nothing to be frightened of and we've played there before. 'Juventus are very good defensively and whether or not they will play for a 0-0 draw I don't know. 'It might serve us well to go over there and counter-attack a bit more, but we'll wait and see.' England boss Kevin Keegan is also upbeat about United's chances even though they needed a stoppage-time goal from Ryan Giggs to avoid defeat. 'Manchester United are a great team away from home when they counter-attack,' he said. 'They've scored plenty of away goals this season - six in Brondby, three in Barcelona and two in Bayern Munich - so they still have a good chance.' And Juventus midfielder Edgar Davids does not believe the tie is over. The Dutch international, who was superb at Old Trafford, knows Alex Ferguson's battlers will give the Serie A side a tough match in Turin. 'We know they can score goals on any occasion and it will be hard for us because they have shown that they can be dangerous,' he said. 'At 1-1 they have to go for goals and we know they will come at us. I know with English teams they will never give up and you never know what might happen. 'Manchester United are a great team and we know it will still be difficult for us. But we've got a great chance and it's good that we've scored the away goal. 'We will try to play like we did in the first half with the same determination and concentration. 'We hope we can win, but we will see about that.' United's defiant words should not mask the enormity of the task facing them. The Reds have lost all four of their previous visits to Turin and apart from a meaningless Anglo-Italian Cup game in 1973 they have never won in Italy. Quite simply United must produce their best Champions' League performance yet to get a result in the Stadio delle Alpi.
Subject: Ferguson strives for right balance in Turin return By David Lacey Friday April 9, 1999 The match programme at Old Trafford reminded Manchester United supporters that Peter Schmeichel was about to move within one Champions League match of equalling Bill Foulkes's club record of 35 European Cup appearances. By the end of Wednesday night older United fans were probably thinking more about Foulkes than about Schmeichel. It was Foulkes's goal that took United to the 1968 European Cup final. The 36-year-old centre-half enabled United to force a 3-3 draw with Real Madrid after Matt Busby's team had brought a mere 1-0 lead to the Bernabeu Stadium and found themselves 3-1 down at half-time. To reach a second final United look like having to summon up similar powers of recovery and more besides. Far from taking even a narrow advantage to Turin for the return of their semi-final against Juventus they needed a goal in stoppage time from Ryan Giggs on Wednesday night to force a 1-1 draw. The odds heavily favour Juventus, who are on the threshold of becoming the first club to play in four successive finals since Real in the late Fifties. United have visited Turin on four previous occasions in Europe and Juventus have won every time. Arsenal are the only English side to have beaten Juve in Italy, winning the second leg of a Cup Winners' Cup semi-final 1-0 there in 1980. United can point out there is a first time for everything, that before knocking out Internazionale in this season's quarter-finals they had never defeated Italian opposition over two legs. The one statistic that matters now is the away goal scored by Antonio Conte after 25 minutes which promised to bring Juventus victory on Wednesday until Giggs drove the ball home in the closing seconds. This threw United a lifeline with strings attached; they will have to score at least once in the Stadio Delle Alpi while ensuring that Juve do not increase their lead. For Alex Ferguson the second leg poses an intriguing problem. Does the United manager keep faith with his team's natural attacking instincts and regular scoring habits or would it be wiser to stiffen his midfield with Ronny Johnsen, keep everything tight and wait to hit the opposition on the break? In the quarter-finals Johnsen replaced Paul Scholes in Milan when Ferguson needed to protect a 2-0 lead, Scholes eventually coming off the bench to force the 1-1 draw. Given the pattern of Wednesday's game, Johnsen may again have an important role to play since United's overriding priority in Turin will be to stop Juventus scoring again. For the second half at Old Trafford Johnsen took over from Henning Berg, defensive hero against Inter, in the back four after Zinedine Zidane, Edgar Davids, Filippo Inzaghi and Conte had pulled United's defence apart in a familiar and predictable manner. As Romario and Rivaldo had at various times exploited the squareness of United's defenders for Barcelona, so Zidane, despite a stiff knee, thrived on the space he was given largely because United had four men marking one striker, Inzaghi, while nobody was picking up Conte, Davids or Angelo Di Livio. As Juventus ran riot before half-time Old Trafford was reminded that, while the view from the top of the Premiership may be lofty, more impressive footballing vistas are apt to be witnessed beyond the Alps or the Pyrenees. United are capable of winning a trial of wills in Turin but one would not give much for their chances in another battle of wits with Zidane. And it was primarily willpower which salvaged a draw on Wednesday. As waves of attacks broke over a tiring, panicky Juventus defence one could sense the Old Trafford crowd driving them on. But it will not be quite like that in the Stadio Delle Alpi. Even so, the continued vulnerability of the Juventus defence against crosses of any quality, whether from set-pieces or in open play, must give United a modicum of hope provided David Beckham is more of an influence in the return game. 'Something tells me we're going to win over there,' said Ferguson after the match. United will trust their manager is not just hearing things.
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