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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Fri Jan 08 08:50:25 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Reserves win at Villa but Youth team goes out of Cup
2. Fixture changes
3. Two M.E.N. Articles
4. NEW* LUXUS Wallsaver Programs from www.red11.org
5. SWEDE DREAMS FOR BOSS FERGIE
6. Re: Oldest MUFC Player
7. NICKY BUTT IS NOT A CHEAT 

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Daily RED Trivia  Fri 8th January 1999:

8/1/1884: Robert Beale born in Maidstone. A capable goalkeeper, Beale made his debut
 against Woolwich Arsenal in September 1912 after United paid £750 for him to
 Norwich City., His career shortened by the First World War, he made 112 appearances
 between 1912-15.

1949: FA Cup holders United thrash Bournemouth 6-0 in a 3rd Round tie at Maine
 Road watched by 55,012. Ronnie Burke 2, Jack Rowley 2, Stan Pearson and
 Charlie Mitten scored the goals. Team was: Crompton, Carey, Aston, Cockburn,
 Chilton, McGlen, Delaney, Pearson, Burke, Rowley, Mitten..  
 
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Barry Daily Comment:
In the Danish Media it is reported that Peter Schmeichel has been sent on a vacation
by Ferguson (like Scholes has).  
Apparantly he's going to barbados for a week and will not play against West Ham on Sunday.
info from  Bo Siemsen of Copenhagen ICQ : 21420965

+ Message from Pat.......
 Did anyone else get the 'members brochure' before Christmas. It has an
 interview with Jeppe, Stam and Dwight where they're each asked 15
 identical questions.
 I can't be arsed to type it all in but when they were asked 'What would
 you be if you were not a footballer?'
 Jeppe said 'Ice hockey player or Doctor'
 Dwight said 'A bit of everything - wheeling and dealing probably'
 And for some strange reason Jaap said 'I think I would be an
 electrician'.
 He also revealed he is learning to play golf, I bet the ball shits
 itself when he puts it on the tee! (tee-hee).
   Cheers
   Pat Jennings

http://www.iol.ie/~redcafe/kidd.htm
Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio

Next games: 
ALL Result/Fixture Index:
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  10/1 West Ham    (H) Sky Sports time 16.00 UK
  16/1 Leicester   (A)  15.00
  24/1 Liverpool   (H)  12.00 Sky Sports FA CUP 4th rnd
  31/1 Charlton    (A)  15.00 UK

UNITED Stats v All teams:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/

*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED  ***

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251
17/10/98    Wimbledon                Home     W  5-1     2    55,265
24/10/98    Derby County             Away     D  1-1     2    30,867
31/10/98    Everton                  Away     W  4-1     2    40,079
08/11/98    Newcastle United         Home     D  0-0     3    55,174
14/11/98    Blackburn Rovers         Home     W  3-2     2    55,198
21/11/98    Sheffield Wednesday      Away     L  1-3     2    39,475
29/11/98    Leeds                    Home     W  3-2     2    55,172
05/12/98    Aston Villa              Away     D  1-1     2    39,241
12/12/98    Tottenham Hotspur        Away     D  2-2     1    36,079
16/12/98    Chelsea                  Home     D  1-1     2    55,159
19/12/98    Middlebrough             Home     L  2-3     3    55,152
26/12/98    Notts Forest             Home     W  3-0     3    55,216 
29/12/98    Chelsea                  Away     D  0-0     3    34,741


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Champions League:
Group D         P  W  D  L  F  A   Pts
Bayern Munich   6  3  2  1  9  6  11   
Man United      6  2  4  0 20 11  10
Barcelona       6  2  2  2 11  9   8    
Brondby         6  1  0  5  4 18   3   

Dec  9 Brøndby         0-2  Barcelona
Dec  9 Man Utd         1-1  Bayern Munich

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CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE QUARTER-FINAL DRAW
 Manchester Utd    v   Inter Milan
 Real Madrid       v   Dynamo Kiev
 Juventus          v   Olympiakos
 Bayern Munich     v   Kaiserslautern

 Ties to be played on March 3 and 17


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Subject: Reserves win at Villa but Youth team goes out of Cup From the MEN: Villa Reserves 1 Man United Reserves 5 United came from behind to thrash a young Villa side on an eventful evening for midfielder Jonathan Greening. England youth Greening was dismissed in the 62nd minute for a second bookable offence, departing at the same time as Villa's Darren Byfield who retaliated to the United youngster's challenge. Byfield had set up the game's opening goal, scored by Darius Vassell, as David May was left flat-footed. Jordi Cruyff headed the visitors back onto level terms after Greening's 27th minute drive had been blocked on the line, then nine minutes later Greening shot United in front. The visitors took complete control after the double sending off and they made sure of victory in the 77th minute, when Ole Gunnar Solskjaer raced on to Phil Neville's through ball to strike home a fine cross shot. Solskjaer then provided the cross for Phil Mulryne to score from 10 yards in the 88th minutes, before the Norwegian brilliantly drove in an 18 yard effort for his second goal. United: Culkin, Clegg, Neville, May, Curtiks, Teather (Wilson 56), Cruyff, Mulryne (Bakircioglu, Notman 77), Solskjaer, Greening. Subs not used: Healy, Gibson, Nevland. (Kennedy Bakircioglou is a young Swedish striker who has flown over to play for the reserves on trial) --------------------------- Everton 4 Man United 0 Manchester United's hopes of adding to their proud FA Youth Cup record was snuffed out in a third round replay at Goodison Park last night. The Reds, winners of the trophy on eight occasions, rarely looked likely to prolong their involvement in this season's competition. Once Everton had opened the scoring in the 14th minute, through Joseph McAlpine, the tie became an uphill battle. And two Everton goals inside the opening eight minutes of the second half through Francis Jeffers and Leon Osman, sealed United's fate. Jeffers scored Everton's fourth goal in the 70th minute. United's Michael Stewart went close with a long range shot close to the end, but by then it didn't really matter. United: Rachubka, Lynch (Rose), Hilton, Roche, O'Shea, Clegg, Evans (Studley), Stewart, Wheatcroft, Fitzpatrick (Weller), Chadwick. Subs not used: Marsh, Cosgrove. ******************************************************
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Subject: Fixture changes The home game against Derby has been brought forward to Wednesday 3rd Feb KO 2000hrs (originally April 5th) but this is subject to either teams being involved in FA Cup 4th round replays. If either team does have a replay the Derby game will be played at a future date. The Arse game will either be played on Saturday 13th Feb KO 1500hrs or Wednesday 17th Feb KO 2000hrs but this is also subject to FA Cup 5th round commitments
Simplenet Webmasters Barry and Bill

Subject: Two M.E.N. Articles FERGIE LINES UP BECKHAM REST CURE By STUART MATHIESON DAVID Beckham is set to join Manchester United's rested World Cup stars and could miss Sunday's Old Trafford clash with West Ham. The Reds' FA Cup heroes are ready to stay on for a Premiership tilt as Alex Ferguson staves off World Cup fatigue. Caribbean holidaying keeper Peter Schmeichel could be United's only change from the side which set up an FA Cup fourth round heavyweight crunch with Liverpool following last Sunday's 3-1 home victory against Middlesbrough. World Cup conscripts Beckham, Gary Neville and Ronny Johnsen are set for extended rests with England's summer hero Paul Scholes already been given time off by Fergie. Beckham and Neville missed the Cup win because of suspensions while Johnsen was out with flu. Now Ferguson wants to add to his mid-season breaks policy with a reward for last Sunday's victors. ``There comes a point when a performance is so good that you have to say that they should be given another run,'' says the United boss. ``You can't ignore a display like the team put on against Middlesbrough last Sunday. The side were under pressure after losing a goal at home. We'd never been knocked out at the third round stage in my time at Old Trafford and there was all that pressure as well. ``I thought the team coped with that well. They handled the match brilliantly and you cannot ignore a performance like that.'' Schmeichel, on a family holiday in Barbados with Fergie's blessing, makes way for Raimond Van Der Gouw amid growing speculation about who will be the Great Dane's eventual replacement. Reports suggest Boro's Mark Schwarzer has jumped back up the pecking order following his impressive display against the Reds last Sunday in the FA Cup. Parma's 21-year-old keeper Gianluigi Buffon's name has also been thrown into the hat while young Swedish striker Kennedy Bakircioglou has staked a claim for a move to Old Trafford. He was flown over to play for United's reserves last night at Aston Villa. The Swede laid on two goals in the Reds' Pontin's League 5-1 win. COOKE'S BACK ON THE BOIL BY RICHARD BURGESS IT is the moment which every footballer dreads. . .when all his hopes and dreams are brought to a shuddering halt. For Manchester City new boy Terry Cooke, the moment arrived early last season when a serious knee injury sent his whole world crashing down. A fight for a first-team place at Old Trafford suddenly turned into a fight to save his career. The 21-year-old had serious cruciate ligament damage and admits his chances of playing again were only 50-50. ``It was a nerve-wracking time and it's not easy when you are working on your own to get fit again,'' says Cooke. ``Obviously, you wonder about your future, but it is important to try and stay as positive as possible.'' But with the help of fellow injury victim Roy Keane, the young winger fought his way back to fitness. After playing five reserve games this season, Cooke moved to Wrexham on a three-month loan in a bid to resurrect his faltering career. It was soon obvious that he had not lost his ability and began to show glimpses of the talent which marked him out as one of United's most promising newcomers. City boss Joe Royle explains: ``We were watching Wrexham in preparation for playing them and noticed how well Terry was playing. I have known about him since my days at Oldham when he was an outstanding prospect in United's youth team. He was brought through with all the other excellent young players there and has showed his form at first-team level. ``But the injury obviously made a massive impact on his progress. Willie Donachie was at the match when he injured his knee and it was obvious that it was a bad one. ``Still, he has turned things around and played very well against us. I think that was probably his best game for Wrexham and showed exactly what he can do.'' Cooke will sign for the Blues on a three-month loan next week after completing his spell at Wrexham. The youngster, who can play as a right winger or through the middle, has a slight calf injury at the moment and will miss Wrexham's match on Saturday against Reading. ``I have spoken to Terry and he is very keen to come to us,'' added Royle. ``Even though he is 22, he is still feeling his way in the game. City is a very big stage and it will be a chance for him to prove his ability. ``There is a possibility that we will sign him in a permanent deal, but first it is a just a question of seeing how he fits in at Maine Road.'' Cooke, a player with prodigious pace and the ability to play on the wing, fits the bill perfectly for City. Royle has been searching for a creative influence at the club all season and the young winger proved his ability with a stunning Boxing Day display against City, with Richard Edghill struggling to cope with his pace and skill. Birmingham-born Cooke joined United at the age of 13 and has been through the ranks with players like Phil Neville and Paul Scholes. He was part of the side which won the FA Youth Cup in 1995 and made his Premiership debut soon afterwards against Bolton. ``I only knew an hour before kick-off that I was playing so there wasn't time to get nervous,'' adds Cooke. ``I set up a goal for Ryan Giggs and but couldn't hold onto my place.'' His performance was enough to impress watching England scouts and Cooke has picked up four under 21 caps in his fledgling career. Loan spells with Sunderland and Birmingham followed, making four appearances for his home-town club. Coming from a family of Blues' fans, his promising performances were well received by the St Andrews faithful. Cooke will now be hoping another loan spell can launch a new and exciting stage in his roller-coaster career. Manchester United - The Legend: http://manunited.net
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Subject: *NEW* LUXUS Wallsaver Programs from www.red11.org *** NEWS NEWS NEWS *** www.red11.org does it again in 1999! Happy RED Millenium Year Download Desktop Manchester United Wallsaver program - - 3.2mb + Download David Beckham Wallsaver -- 1.8mb Deluxe Wallpaper and Screensaver program made by our Graphics expert Sam Hayward! -------------------------------- What is it? - This is a small program containing all our Desktop wallpaper. It uses these images within a screensaver program utilising numerous effects and transitions. The difference between this and any other screensaver is that each individual image can automatically be saved to your desktop at the click of a button. No need for any other utility or program. Also there are plenty of settings to tailor to your individual preferences. GO NOW TO: http://www.red11.org click on the bottom left link "RED Wallsavers" Enjoy! Barry, Bill, Paul, Sam & Diana. Famous RED "Our Salford Lass" has tested Sam's program and said this: "It's the best United screensaver I've ever seen. It's on both my computers at work and home, and I've also got it set to change my wallpaper every day! MUFC Hon. Executive CP Cheah Webmasters: Barry Leeming & Bill McArthur Graphics: Sam Hayward Stats: Paul Hinson Site Design Diana Low Webmaster Mail: barry@www.red11.org Url: http://www.red11.org World of Manchester United Football Club.
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Subject: SWEDE DREAMS FOR BOSS FERGIE To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU SWEDE DREAMS FOR BOSS FERGIE By Alan Nixon, Mirror Sport Manchester United boss Alex Ferguson is ready to snap up young Swedish striker Kennedy Bakircioglou in a shock deal. Fergie flew the giant teenager over to play for United's reserves on Wednesday night. Bakircioglou, who is also wanted by clubs in France and Switzerland, laid on two goals in the 5-1 win at Aston Villa. United are also chasing Middlesbrough keeper Mark Schwarzer as a replacement for Peter Schmeichel at the end of the season. Schwarzer fits the bill. He's big, commanding and at 26 has enough experience to handle the high profile position. Boro team-mate Neil Maddison said: "I would say that he's in the top three in the country and that's why United want to buy him. He was certainly outstanding against them in the FA Cup on Sunday." Iceman
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Subject: Re: Oldest MUFC Player >> Speaking of old players and Manchester United, here's one for those of you >> anorakls. Who is the oldest living Manchester United player? (i dont know >> the answer myself, so dont think you'll get a prize if you get it right!" >> Nick Coppack Bobby's a mere youngster at 61, so there are quite a few older than him. Some of the 1948 Cup winning team are still alive (Jack Crompton, John Aston, Charlie Mitten and probably a few others) and there are bound to be some surviving pre-WW2 players (John Aston, for example, made his debut in the '30's). Garth Dykes' excellent The United Alphabet (recently voted the best United book) would be a good reference point for this question, although it's a few years out of date now. Does this make me an anorakl? Paul O'H
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Subject: NICKY BUTT IS NOT A CHEAT Even If Maddison Didn't Make Contact, It Can Still Be A Foul By Philip Cornwall HOW often do you hear players appeal: "I never touched him!"? You could hardly have failed to notice Neil Maddison shouting the odds at Nicky Butt on Sunday when the referee awarded a penalty for Manchester United against Middlesbrough. It is even possible that the Boro man was right; the video evidence was inconclusive and Alex Ferguson and Bryan Robson disagreed over what they saw. But even if Maddison and Robson were right, that does not in itself mean the decision was wrong. Now this may come as news to many, but there is no need for a player to stand there and take the hit if someone is attempting to foul them. It's still a foul. Imagine that Maddison, to take an extreme example, attacked Butt with a machete but the United player leapt out the way and avoided getting his head lopped off. No-one would quibble that the Boro player had committed an offence. Well, the same applies if the weapon is feet or fists. Imagine the extreme example of the trip. Someone steams in, sliding so fast that there is no way for the player in possession to keep going towards the ball other than by jumping out of the way. Even if the only way you can avoid having your feet taken is by hurdling your opponent, then that opponent has still made an illegal challenge. This is what the law actually says: "A direct free-kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following six offences in a manner considered to be careless, reckless or using excessive force: - Kicks or attempts to kick an opponent - Trips or attempts to trip an opponent - Jumps at an opponent - Charges an opponent - Strikes or attempts to strike an opponent - Pushes an opponent" As long as the referee was satisfied that Maddison was careless in his challenge, and therefore illegally forced Butt to take evasive action - however slight - then it could be a penalty even if the two never came into contact. The next section of the law on foul play makes things clearer: "A direct free-kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following offences: - Tackles an opponent to gain possession of the ball, making contact with the opponent before touching the ball..." Maddison went for the ball; he missed it; it was Butt who got out of the way, not Maddison. It would be an absurd situation if a player had to take a hit in order to be awarded a free-kick or penalty. This applies every bit as much to Sunday's other 'controversial' penalty, involving Michael Owen at Port Vale; the defender went for the ball, missed, wound up taking the player, and that was that. Penalty kick. The laws have moved on, and the sooner players, managers and fans realise it, the better.
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