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Date: Fri Jan 08 08:50:25 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. Reserves win at Villa but Youth team goes out of Cup
2. Fixture changes
3. Two M.E.N. Articles
4. NEW* LUXUS Wallsaver Programs from www.red11.org
5. SWEDE DREAMS FOR BOSS FERGIE
6. Re: Oldest MUFC Player
7. NICKY BUTT IS NOT A CHEAT
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Daily RED Trivia Fri 8th January 1999:
8/1/1884: Robert Beale born in Maidstone. A capable goalkeeper, Beale made his debut
against Woolwich Arsenal in September 1912 after United paid £750 for him to
Norwich City., His career shortened by the First World War, he made 112 appearances
between 1912-15.
1949: FA Cup holders United thrash Bournemouth 6-0 in a 3rd Round tie at Maine
Road watched by 55,012. Ronnie Burke 2, Jack Rowley 2, Stan Pearson and
Charlie Mitten scored the goals. Team was: Crompton, Carey, Aston, Cockburn,
Chilton, McGlen, Delaney, Pearson, Burke, Rowley, Mitten..
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Barry Daily Comment:
In the Danish Media it is reported that Peter Schmeichel has been sent on a vacation
by Ferguson (like Scholes has).
Apparantly he's going to barbados for a week and will not play against West Ham on Sunday.
info from Bo Siemsen of Copenhagen ICQ : 21420965
+ Message from Pat.......
Did anyone else get the 'members brochure' before Christmas. It has an
interview with Jeppe, Stam and Dwight where they're each asked 15
identical questions.
I can't be arsed to type it all in but when they were asked 'What would
you be if you were not a footballer?'
Jeppe said 'Ice hockey player or Doctor'
Dwight said 'A bit of everything - wheeling and dealing probably'
And for some strange reason Jaap said 'I think I would be an
electrician'.
He also revealed he is learning to play golf, I bet the ball shits
itself when he puts it on the tee! (tee-hee).
Cheers
Pat Jennings
http://www.iol.ie/~redcafe/kidd.htm
Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
Next games:
ALL Result/Fixture Index:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
10/1 West Ham (H) Sky Sports time 16.00 UK
16/1 Leicester (A) 15.00
24/1 Liverpool (H) 12.00 Sky Sports FA CUP 4th rnd
31/1 Charlton (A) 15.00 UK
UNITED Stats v All teams:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251
17/10/98 Wimbledon Home W 5-1 2 55,265
24/10/98 Derby County Away D 1-1 2 30,867
31/10/98 Everton Away W 4-1 2 40,079
08/11/98 Newcastle United Home D 0-0 3 55,174
14/11/98 Blackburn Rovers Home W 3-2 2 55,198
21/11/98 Sheffield Wednesday Away L 1-3 2 39,475
29/11/98 Leeds Home W 3-2 2 55,172
05/12/98 Aston Villa Away D 1-1 2 39,241
12/12/98 Tottenham Hotspur Away D 2-2 1 36,079
16/12/98 Chelsea Home D 1-1 2 55,159
19/12/98 Middlebrough Home L 2-3 3 55,152
26/12/98 Notts Forest Home W 3-0 3 55,216
29/12/98 Chelsea Away D 0-0 3 34,741
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Champions League:
Group D P W D L F A Pts
Bayern Munich 6 3 2 1 9 6 11
Man United 6 2 4 0 20 11 10
Barcelona 6 2 2 2 11 9 8
Brondby 6 1 0 5 4 18 3
Dec 9 Brøndby 0-2 Barcelona
Dec 9 Man Utd 1-1 Bayern Munich
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CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE QUARTER-FINAL DRAW
Manchester Utd v Inter Milan
Real Madrid v Dynamo Kiev
Juventus v Olympiakos
Bayern Munich v Kaiserslautern
Ties to be played on March 3 and 17
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Simplenet Webmasters Barry and Bill
Subject: Reserves win at Villa but Youth team goes out of Cup
From the MEN:
Villa Reserves 1 Man United Reserves 5
United came from behind to thrash a young Villa side on an eventful evening
for midfielder Jonathan Greening. England youth Greening was dismissed in
the 62nd minute for a second bookable offence, departing at the same time
as Villa's Darren Byfield who retaliated to the United youngster's
challenge. Byfield had set up the game's opening goal, scored by Darius
Vassell, as David May was left flat-footed. Jordi Cruyff headed the
visitors back onto level terms after Greening's 27th minute drive had been
blocked on the line, then nine minutes later Greening shot United in front.
The visitors took complete control after the double sending off and they
made sure of victory in the 77th minute, when Ole Gunnar Solskjaer raced on
to Phil Neville's through ball to strike home a fine cross shot. Solskjaer
then provided the cross for Phil Mulryne to score from 10 yards in the 88th
minutes, before the Norwegian brilliantly drove in an 18 yard effort for
his second goal.
United: Culkin, Clegg, Neville, May, Curtiks, Teather (Wilson 56), Cruyff,
Mulryne (Bakircioglu, Notman 77), Solskjaer, Greening. Subs not used:
Healy, Gibson, Nevland.
(Kennedy Bakircioglou is a young Swedish striker who has flown over to play
for the reserves on trial)
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Everton 4 Man United 0
Manchester United's hopes of adding to their proud FA Youth Cup record was
snuffed out in a third round replay at Goodison Park last night. The Reds,
winners of the trophy on eight occasions, rarely looked likely to prolong
their involvement in this season's competition. Once Everton had opened
the scoring in the 14th minute, through Joseph McAlpine, the tie became an
uphill battle. And two Everton goals inside the opening eight minutes of
the second half through Francis Jeffers and Leon Osman, sealed United's
fate. Jeffers scored Everton's fourth goal in the 70th minute. United's
Michael Stewart went close with a long range shot close to the end, but by
then it didn't really matter.
United: Rachubka, Lynch (Rose), Hilton, Roche, O'Shea, Clegg, Evans
(Studley), Stewart, Wheatcroft, Fitzpatrick (Weller), Chadwick. Subs not
used: Marsh, Cosgrove.
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Simplenet Webmasters Barry and Bill
Subject: Fixture changes
The home game against Derby has been brought forward to Wednesday 3rd Feb KO 2000hrs
(originally April 5th) but this is subject to either teams being involved in FA Cup 4th round
replays. If either team does have a replay the Derby game will be played at a future
date.
The Arse game will either be played on Saturday 13th Feb KO 1500hrs or
Wednesday 17th Feb KO 2000hrs but this is also subject to FA Cup 5th
round commitments
Simplenet Webmasters Barry and Bill
Subject: Two M.E.N. Articles
FERGIE LINES UP BECKHAM REST CURE By STUART MATHIESON
DAVID Beckham is set to join Manchester United's rested World Cup stars and
could miss Sunday's Old Trafford clash with West Ham.
The Reds' FA Cup heroes are ready to stay on for a Premiership tilt as Alex
Ferguson staves off World Cup fatigue.
Caribbean holidaying keeper Peter Schmeichel could be United's only change
from the side which set up an FA Cup fourth round heavyweight crunch with
Liverpool following last Sunday's 3-1 home victory against Middlesbrough.
World Cup conscripts Beckham, Gary Neville and Ronny Johnsen are set for
extended rests with England's summer hero Paul Scholes already been given
time off by Fergie.
Beckham and Neville missed the Cup win because of suspensions while Johnsen
was out with flu. Now Ferguson wants to add to his mid-season breaks policy
with a reward for last Sunday's victors.
``There comes a point when a performance is so good that you have to say
that they should be given another run,'' says the United boss.
``You can't ignore a display like the team put on against Middlesbrough
last Sunday. The side were under pressure after losing a goal at home. We'd
never been knocked out at the third round stage in my time at Old Trafford
and there was all that pressure as well.
``I thought the team coped with that well. They handled the match
brilliantly and you cannot ignore a performance like that.''
Schmeichel, on a family holiday in Barbados with Fergie's blessing, makes
way for Raimond Van Der Gouw amid growing speculation about who will be the
Great Dane's eventual replacement.
Reports suggest Boro's Mark Schwarzer has jumped back up the pecking order
following his impressive display against the Reds last Sunday in the FA Cup.
Parma's 21-year-old keeper Gianluigi Buffon's name has also been thrown
into the hat while young Swedish striker Kennedy Bakircioglou has staked a
claim for a move to Old Trafford.
He was flown over to play for United's reserves last night at Aston Villa.
The Swede laid on two goals in the Reds' Pontin's League 5-1 win.
COOKE'S BACK ON THE BOIL BY RICHARD BURGESS
IT is the moment which every footballer dreads. . .when all his hopes and
dreams are brought to a shuddering halt.
For Manchester City new boy Terry Cooke, the moment arrived early last
season when a serious knee injury sent his whole world crashing down.
A fight for a first-team place at Old Trafford suddenly turned into a fight
to save his career. The 21-year-old had serious cruciate ligament damage
and admits his chances of playing again were only 50-50.
``It was a nerve-wracking time and it's not easy when you are working on
your own to get fit again,'' says Cooke. ``Obviously, you wonder about your
future, but it is important to try and stay as positive as possible.''
But with the help of fellow injury victim Roy Keane, the young winger
fought his way back to fitness. After playing five reserve games this
season, Cooke moved to Wrexham on a three-month loan in a bid to resurrect
his faltering career.
It was soon obvious that he had not lost his ability and began to show
glimpses of the talent which marked him out as one of United's most
promising newcomers.
City boss Joe Royle explains: ``We were watching Wrexham in preparation for
playing them and noticed how well Terry was playing. I have known about him
since my days at Oldham when he was an outstanding prospect in United's
youth team. He was brought through with all the other excellent young
players there and has showed his form at first-team level.
``But the injury obviously made a massive impact on his progress. Willie
Donachie was at the match when he injured his knee and it was obvious that
it was a bad one.
``Still, he has turned things around and played very well against us. I
think that was probably his best game for Wrexham and showed exactly what
he can do.''
Cooke will sign for the Blues on a three-month loan next week after
completing his spell at Wrexham.
The youngster, who can play as a right winger or through the middle, has a
slight calf injury at the moment and will miss Wrexham's match on Saturday
against Reading.
``I have spoken to Terry and he is very keen to come to us,'' added Royle.
``Even though he is 22, he is still feeling his way in the game. City is a
very big stage and it will be a chance for him to prove his ability.
``There is a possibility that we will sign him in a permanent deal, but
first it is a just a question of seeing how he fits in at Maine Road.''
Cooke, a player with prodigious pace and the ability to play on the wing,
fits the bill perfectly for City.
Royle has been searching for a creative influence at the club all season
and the young winger proved his ability with a stunning Boxing Day display
against City, with Richard Edghill struggling to cope with his pace and skill.
Birmingham-born Cooke joined United at the age of 13 and has been through
the ranks with players like Phil Neville and Paul Scholes.
He was part of the side which won the FA Youth Cup in 1995 and made his
Premiership debut soon afterwards against Bolton.
``I only knew an hour before kick-off that I was playing so there wasn't
time to get nervous,'' adds Cooke.
``I set up a goal for Ryan Giggs and but couldn't hold onto my place.''
His performance was enough to impress watching England scouts and Cooke has
picked up four under 21 caps in his fledgling career.
Loan spells with Sunderland and Birmingham followed, making four
appearances for his home-town club.
Coming from a family of Blues' fans, his promising performances were well
received by the St Andrews faithful. Cooke will now be hoping another loan
spell can launch a new and exciting stage in his roller-coaster career.
Manchester United - The Legend: http://manunited.net
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Subject: *NEW* LUXUS Wallsaver Programs from www.red11.org
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Subject: SWEDE DREAMS FOR BOSS FERGIE
To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
SWEDE DREAMS FOR BOSS FERGIE
By Alan Nixon, Mirror Sport
Manchester United boss Alex Ferguson is ready to snap up young Swedish
striker Kennedy Bakircioglou in a shock deal.
Fergie flew the giant teenager over to play for United's reserves on
Wednesday night.
Bakircioglou, who is also wanted by clubs in France and Switzerland, laid
on two goals in the 5-1 win at Aston Villa.
United are also chasing Middlesbrough keeper Mark Schwarzer as a
replacement for Peter Schmeichel at the end of the season.
Schwarzer fits the bill. He's big, commanding and at 26 has enough
experience to handle the high profile position.
Boro team-mate Neil Maddison said: "I would say that he's in the top three
in the country and that's why United want to buy him. He was certainly
outstanding against them in the FA Cup on Sunday."
Iceman
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Subject: Re: Oldest MUFC Player
>> Speaking of old players and Manchester United, here's one for those of you
>> anorakls. Who is the oldest living Manchester United player? (i dont know
>> the answer myself, so dont think you'll get a prize if you get it right!"
>> Nick Coppack
Bobby's a mere youngster at 61, so there are quite a few older than him.
Some of the 1948 Cup winning team are still alive (Jack Crompton, John
Aston, Charlie Mitten and probably a few others) and there are bound to be
some surviving pre-WW2 players (John Aston, for example, made his debut in
the '30's). Garth Dykes' excellent The United Alphabet (recently voted the
best United book) would be a good reference point for this question,
although it's a few years out of date now.
Does this make me an anorakl?
Paul O'H
Simplenet Webmasters Barry and Bill
Subject: NICKY BUTT IS NOT A CHEAT
Even If Maddison Didn't Make Contact, It Can Still Be A Foul
By Philip Cornwall
HOW often do you hear players appeal: "I never
touched him!"? You could hardly have failed to
notice Neil Maddison shouting the odds at Nicky Butt
on Sunday when the referee awarded a penalty for
Manchester United against Middlesbrough. It is
even possible that the Boro man was right; the
video evidence was inconclusive and Alex Ferguson
and Bryan Robson disagreed over what they saw.
But even if Maddison and Robson were right, that
does not in itself mean the decision was wrong.
Now this may come as news to many, but there is
no need for a player to stand there and take the hit
if someone is attempting to foul them. It's still a
foul. Imagine that Maddison, to take an extreme
example, attacked Butt with a machete but the
United player leapt out the way and avoided getting
his head lopped off. No-one would quibble that the
Boro player had committed an offence. Well, the
same applies if the weapon is feet or fists.
Imagine the extreme example of the trip. Someone
steams in, sliding so fast that there is no way for
the player in possession to keep going towards the
ball other than by jumping out of the way. Even if
the only way you can avoid having your feet taken
is by hurdling your opponent, then that opponent
has still made an illegal challenge.
This is what the law actually says: "A direct
free-kick is awarded to the opposing team if a
player commits any of the following six offences in a
manner considered to be careless, reckless or using
excessive force:
- Kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
- Trips or attempts to trip an opponent
- Jumps at an opponent
- Charges an opponent
- Strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
- Pushes an opponent"
As long as the referee was satisfied that Maddison
was careless in his challenge, and therefore illegally
forced Butt to take evasive action - however slight -
then it could be a penalty even if the two never
came into contact.
The next section of the law on foul play makes
things clearer: "A direct free-kick is also awarded to
the opposing team if a player commits any of the
following offences:
- Tackles an opponent to gain possession of the
ball, making contact with the opponent before
touching the ball..."
Maddison went for the ball; he missed it; it was Butt
who got out of the way, not Maddison. It would be
an absurd situation if a player had to take a hit in
order to be awarded a free-kick or penalty. This
applies every bit as much to Sunday's other
'controversial' penalty, involving Michael Owen at
Port Vale; the defender went for the ball, missed,
wound up taking the player, and that was that.
Penalty kick.
The laws have moved on, and the sooner players,
managers and fans realise it, the better.
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