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Date: Fri May 07 06:36:58 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Who's the scouser in the black? Personal Report by OUR SALFORD LASS
2. Guardian    Ince wounds United
3. Does Paul Ince hate United so much?  by Boon Wee
4. Irwin in Wembley anguish after first sending-off  2 articles
6. Sam old Man U. Always agony


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Interviews after the game  Liverpool 2-2 UNITED
    0.32s  35k  Paddy crerand on Elleray
    1.39m  108k  Alex on Liverpool the day after!

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Daily RED Trivia  Fri 7th May 1999:

 Charlie Radford made his debut against Derby County. Radford, recruited
 from Walsall, was a strong Full-back who made 96 appearances before being tragically
 killed in a motor cycle accident in July 1924.

 United beat Portsmouth 3-2 at Maine Road in a Division 1 game watched 
 by 49,808. Jack Rowley 2 and Charlie Mitten scored the goals. Team was:
 Crompton, Carey, Aston, Anderson, Chilton, Cockburn, Delaney, Downie, Rowley,
 Pearson, Mitten.

 Uniteds Bobby Charlton scores twice for England as they beat Portugal
 2-1 at Wembley.


Barry Daily Comment:
Build up for Sunday where we go top again if we win.
Simple I hear? One thing for sure we can win if we play well.
Spo forget Arse forget referees and do like Fergie, be proud for the RED cause :)
RED sky at night BARCE' delight

REPEAT QUOTE FROM YESTERDAY from famous Mike Dobbin:
"If United only reach the European Cup Final every 31 years,
 you can't really miss it, even if you spent £1,000 on match tickets this
 would only be equivalent to less than 9 pence a day over the whole period."


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Previous News:
BSKYB Takeover news/pics at http://www.red11.org/mufc/bskyb.htm
 Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!

Next games: 
ALL Result/Fixture Index:
If you would like ALL the final fixtures for
UNITED/Arse/Chelsea then go to http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899.htm

Next Games:
9  Middlesbrough (A)  16.00 PL      Live on Sky Sports UK
12 Blackburn (A)  20.00 PL          Live on Sky Sports UK
16 Tottenham (H)  16.00 PL          Live on Sky Sports UK
22 FAC Final Wembley Newcastle  (N) Live on Sky Sports UK
26 European Cup Final Bayern Munich  Nou Camp 

UNITED Stats v All teams:


             Chelsea   1-0   Leeds United          34,762
      Leicester City   1-2   Derby County          20,535
           Liverpool   2-2   Manchester United     44,702
   Tottenham Hotspur   1-3   Arsenal               36,019


Pos Team                  P   W   D   L   F   A   GD  Pts
 1  Arsenal              36  21  12   3  58  16   42   75
 2  Manchester United    35  20  12   3  77  36   41   72
 3  Chelsea              36  19  14   3  53  27   26   71
 4  Leeds United         36  17  12   7  59  32   27   63
 5  Aston Villa          36  15  10  11  48  41    7   55
 6  West Ham United      36  15   9  12  42  47   -5   54
 7  Liverpool            36  14   9  13  65  48   17   51
 8  Middlesbrough        36  12  15   9  48  49   -1   51
 9  Derby County         36  13  12  11  39  43   -4   51
10  Tottenham Hotspur    36  11  13  12  44  46   -2   46
11  Leicester City       36  11  13  12  38  45   -7   46
12  Newcastle United     36  11  12  13  47  51   -4   45
13  Wimbledon            36  10  12  14  40  58  -18   42
14  Sheffield Wednesday  36  11   7  18  39  42   -3   40
15  Everton              36  10  10  16  36  45   -9   40
16  Coventry City        36  11   7  18  37  49  -12   40
17  Southampton          36   9   8  19  33  64  -31   35
18  Blackburn Rovers     35   7  12  16  36  49  -13   33
19  Charlton Athletic    36   7  12  17  37  52  -15   33
20  Nottingham Forest    36   5   9  22  32  68  -36   24


Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251
17/10/98    Wimbledon                Home     W  5-1     2    55,265
24/10/98    Derby County             Away     D  1-1     2    30,867
31/10/98    Everton                  Away     W  4-1     2    40,079
08/11/98    Newcastle United         Home     D  0-0     3    55,174
14/11/98    Blackburn Rovers         Home     W  3-2     2    55,198
21/11/98    Sheffield Wednesday      Away     L  1-3     2    39,475
29/11/98    Leeds United             Home     W  3-2     2    55,172
05/12/98    Aston Villa              Away     D  1-1     2    39,241
12/12/98    Tottenham Hotspur        Away     D  2-2     1    36,079
16/12/98    Chelsea                  Home     D  1-1     2    55,159
19/12/98    Middlesbrough            Home     L  2-3     3    55,152
26/12/98    Nottingham Forest        Home     W  3-0     3    55,216
29/12/98    Chelsea                  Away     D  0-0     3    34,741
10/01/99    West Ham United          Home     W  4-1     3    55,180
16/01/99    Leicester City           Away     W  6-2     2    22,091
31/01/99    Charlton Athletic        Away     W  1-0     1    20,043
03/02/99    Derby County             Home     W  1-0     1    55,174
06/02/99    Nottingham Forest        Away     W  8-1     1    30,025
17/02/99    Arsenal                  Home     D  1-1     1    55,171
20/02/99    Coventry City            Away     W  1-0     1    22,596
27/02/99    Southampton              Home     W  2-1     1    55,316
13/03/99    Newcastle United         Away     W  2-1     1    36,500
21/03/99    Everton                  Home     W  3-1     1    55,182
03/04/99    Wimbledon                Away     D  1-1     1    26,121
17/04/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Home     W  3-0     1    55,270
25/04/99    Leeds United             Away     D  1-1     2    40,255
01/05/99    Aston Villa              Home     W  2-1     1    55,189
05/05/99    Liverpool                Away     D  2-2     2    44,702

*** FIXTURES ON 08/05/99 ***
         Aston Villa  v  Charlton Athletic
    Blackburn Rovers  v  Nottingham Forest
        Derby County  v  Coventry City
             Everton  v  West Ham United
      Leicester City  v  Newcastle United
 Sheffield Wednesday  v  Liverpool
           Wimbledon  v  Southampton

*** FIXTURES ON 09/05/99 ***
       Middlesbrough  v  Manchester United


HIGHEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 27/02/99 - Southampton (55,316)
LOWEST HOME ATTENDANCE:  15/08/98 - Leicester City (55,052)
BEST WIN:                06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1)
HEAVIEST DEFEAT:         20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3)
BEST HOME WIN:           17/10/98 - Wimbledon (5-1)
HEAVIEST HOME DEFEAT:    19/12/98 - Middlesbrough (2-3)
BEST AWAY WIN:           06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1)
HEAVIEST AWAY DEFEAT:    20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3)

Champions League:
Group D         P  W  D  L  F  A   Pts
Bayern Munich   6  3  2  1  9  6  11   
Man United      6  2  4  0 20 11  10
Barcelona       6  2  2  2 11  9   8    
Brondby         6  1  0  5  4 18   3   

Dec  9 Brøndby         0-2  Barcelona
Dec  9 Man Utd         1-1  Bayern Munich


 Manchester Utd  2 v 0  Inter Milan
 Real Madrid     1 v 1  Dynamo Kiev
 Juventus        2 v 1  Olympiakos
 Bayern Munich   2 v 0  Kaiserslautern

**DYNAMO KIEV      2 v 0  REAL MADRID         (Agg:3-1)
OLYMPIAKOS         1 v 1  **JUVENTUS          (Agg:2-3)

Semi Finals 
Manchester United v Juventus  4-3agg 1-0 [1-1]
Bayern Munchen v Dynamo Kiev  4-3agg 1-0 [3-3]

Venue Camp Nou (Estadi FC Barcelona), Barcelona, Spain 
Date Wednesday 26 May 1999 Kick-Off 20.45 CET (19.45 GMT) 


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Subject: Who's the scouser in the black? Personal Report by OUR SALFORD LASS I really don't want to do this. I'm knackered and punch drunk and just want to forget it ever happened and look forward to a better result on Sunday. But apart from the possiblity that writing it all down could act as some much needed therapy, I must push my own feelings to one side and at least attempt a report in honour of the self-sacrifice of one man. A man who put another's need before his own. A man who made the ultimate sacrifice that any Red can make (apart from giving up a Barca ticket, of course). A man who has been much maligned on this list in the past for his love for the humble sausage. El Dobson - who gave up his Liverpool ticket so that another might go. Alan, I salute you! Right, that's the soppy bit over, now I'll get down to sharing with you all my view of what happened last night, hopefully before anyone here (at work) notices I'm writing a match report and not working! It was another warm, but muggy day here in the cultural centre of the Northern hemisphere. Not quite the weather for taking off your shirt (even by our standards) but pleasant, just the same. The footballing day began at Old Trafford, taking our not-so-small parcel of voucher sheets and membership cards and photocopies and grannies' birth certificates and references from the last five employers etc down to the membership office in the hope of getting onto the official coach trip. After a brief stopover at the ticket office to make yet another fuss about not having received our season ticket renewal forms (and comforting some poor chap who's voucher sheet has got lost in the post - he was virtually in tears, a pitiful sight) it was then time to walk the couple of miles from the stadium to the new membership office whilst avoiding being run over by Mercedes and BMW's - the Exec's and Club Class were there there to get their Barca tickets. Hopefully, not too many of them will want to go on a coach trip! Whilst queuing up, I was ear-wigging and discovered that the concerns of the high and mighty are very different to those of us plebs - one guy had forgotten his password for his exec box!! Eventually, business done, I headed off for the son-and-heir's place to get my lift to Merseydive. It was very strange, heading off to Liverpool in a car instead of the coach. And very interesting, as for most of the journey we were surrounded by so-called "scousers" coming in their coaches from such Liverpool suburbs as Leeds and London! Worried about the son-and-heir's abilities as a map reader (he managed to get lost coming home up the M6 from Charlton), as soon as we spied a Finglands coach we pulled up behind it and there we stayed for the journey through the lovely suburb of Croxteth. The lads on the back seat of the coach were having a wonderful time waving fivers at passing scousers whilst the lovable local scallies were waving back in the accustomed welcoming way that scousers have, with one even presenting us with his spotty backside - very unpleasant! We were so engrossed in the entertainment that we almost ended up following the coach as it turned right to park outside Goodison in the coach park, but managed to rescue ourselves at the last minute and headed off to the left looking for a space. We ended up parking right in the middle of enemy territory and headed off for the ground (only feet away) with heads down, mouths shut and trying very hard to look like scousers. Not easy, since all the scousers had Liverpool shirts and scarves on and we United fans stood out a mile since we were all so soberly dressed! After having my bag so thoroughly searched that the copper discovered stuff in there even I didn't know I had, it was into the ground for a pie and a Coke (the bottled variety) before heading for our seats. At that point, I discovered I love El Dobson with an even bigger passion than I had before the game. My original seat (where I left the son-and-heir and his mate) was up in the corner - crap view. My new seat was much better - just to the right of the goal with a brilliant view. The only problem? Scousers above us, I should have brought my crash helmet! As it was the scouser's Cup Final, the atmosphere was superb from the off. As usual, they sang "You'll never walk alone" before the game and I was proud of the United fans. Despite being so outnumbered, we sang The United Calypso" throughout most of it - much better than just booing and whistling. Someone else mentioned how sad Liverpool fans have got these days - well last night, they plumbed the depths. Munich flags, Bayern Flags - very, very sad. And the four scousers who had gone to all the trouble to each make a Euro Cup replica and sit next to each other so they could hold all four of them aloft in unison - well, what can I say? It's called living in the past and we reminded them of that by singing "9 years since you won the league". As the players came on the pitch the roar would have lifted the roof, had they had one (at least we managed to keep warm in their nice new stand, now that they've filled the corner in, even if the rest of the stand is crap). Just like in the old days, we sang for the players in turn (well, at least for the ones who have songs!) and they responded. It would be good if had a bloody song for Gary Neville - the lad would give his life for Manchester United and we can't even sing him a decent song! Once the game started, we were in charge. It was all United, apart from the occasional sprint down the right-hand-side from the scousers, where they seemed to have all the space in the world. We sang all the old songs - "In your Liverpool slums", "If you all hate scousers", "The red flag", "Forever and ever" as well as repeated renditions of "Wemberley, Wemberley" and "If you're all going to Barca clap your hands" and "We're all off to sunny Spain, to see Man United." The new Stam song sounds great and Ole wasn't forgotten as we reminded the scousers of "Who put the ball in the scouser's net". About 15 minutes in, the scousers again showed their lack of class by standing up and singing "1-0, to the Arsenal". We sang back "Who the f*** do you support?" Then, of course, we could sing "1-0 in your Cup Final" and "1-0 to the Manchester" when Becks put in a beautiful cross to Yorke down the other end, and we were one up, amidst great rejoicing, as spit rained down on us from above. Then it was time to really taunt the home fans with "This is so f***ing easy" and "This is the worst scouse team we've ever seen." and "It's like watching Tranmere". The scousers, who had been so mouthy earlier, went a little quiet and sullen at this point!! We then turned our attentions to that cheerful Charlie, Paul Ince (more about that little ****** later). "Charlie, Charlie what's the score?" and "Is Charlie going to Barca, is he f***?" were followed by "You used to play for a big club." before reminding the scousers to "Always look on the bright side of life." So it was a thoroughly enjoyable first half. The second half was not so enjoyable! We started the second half as we'd finished the first - with United in charge, although with Liverpool making some good runs, especially down the right. The Liverpool fans were sitting in their seats feeling miserable, and we were standing and having a party (despite being told to sit down a couple of times - well actually we were asked to retake our seats which was a little difficult, seeing as we hadn't sat down in the first place!). Then Mr Ellery obviously decided that we getting too close to a win for comfort and the game just got crazier and crazier. First Carragher (?) took out Blomqvist right in front of us. Now I know that football players are not renowned for their stoicism when brought to the ground, but Blomqvist was not acting - he was writhing around on the ground in real pain, to the point where David Fevre was obviously concerned and we were holding our breath wondering if he had a serious injury. Luckily, he hadn't and Elleray awarded us a penalty but where was the booking? At least a yellow, but more likely a sending off? Nowhere - he got away with it pure and simple. Madness number one. Madness number two came during the same incident (I think - I was so angry at that point that time seemed to stop and I lost all track of what happened when). Our old friend Big Time Charlie Ince threw a punch at Roy Keane - now I know I saw it, and I know that all those around me saw it, (and obviously Mr Elleray didn't, or chose not to) but where are the reports about it in the papers this morning? All the papers are full of Ince's display of traditional English aggression etc etc (yawn, yawn) - no mention of the fact the man is a thug and should have been sent off and therefore not around to score the winning goal later - I wonder why? Keane showed admirable self control and whilst he raised his hand, he lowered it again without doing any damage (more self-control than I think I would have). There was a lot of pushing and shoving around the penalty area whilst Jesper writhed on the ground, but the incident ended with Elleray giving both Ince and Keane a talking to (!) and our Mr Dependable getting back on track with the resulting penalty. From then on, the baiting of the scousers increased. "Where's your season gone?", "Charlie for City" and "Bring back the Evans" resounded round the stadium as the scousers sat in sullen silence. Then Mr Elleray decided to liven things up again. Ignoring all the fouls on United players, along with various handballs by Liverpool players he decided to award Liverpool a penalty because Jesper had cleanly got the ball in the penalty area - playing to the Kop, surely not!? So we had been pegged back to 2-1 and the Liverpool fans had been awakened from their slumbers. The atmosphere, both on and off the pitch, was electric and any chance of getting through this game without a significant hike in the blood pressure had gone. We were biting our nails, wetting our knickers, praying, clutching our lucky charms - every time the ball went down the other end. As if playing 12 of them ("Who'se the scouser in the black?") wasn't bad enough, Elleray decided to make things even harder by sending off Denis Irwin for kicking the ball away (despite the fact that it wasn't at all clear whether he was indeed kicking the ball away and despite ignoring a Liverpool player doing exactly the same thing only a few minutes later). The lads clung bravely on and were helped by Fergie bringing on Butt and Phil Neville (although I would have also liked to have seen Teddy coming on for Dwight, who looked absolutely knackered towards the end) but with only 10 of us against 12 of them it was inevitable that they would score, indeed we were lucky to escape with a draw. And, of course, in the best traditions of football it had to be bloody Charlie that scored, didn't it? As if the scouse git hasn't already got a swollen enough head as it is, he is now going around telling the world that he has lost us the Championship (at least that should fire Keano up enough to make sure we have the best chance of doing what we need in the last three games!). Of course, now the scousers were on their feet celebrating their draw as if they had won the European Cup. I tried not to look at any of them (not a pleasant sight) but it was impossible to shut out their celebrations when you're in the middle of it. But we carried on singing - "The Red Flag" and "We love United" and we held our heads high, even though I'm sure we all just wanted to sit down and put our head in our hands. After a last minute scare (Elleray played about 10 minutes of injury time in an attempt to win the game for Liverpool) we breathed a massive sigh of relief when the whistle finally blew. Of course, Charlie had to behave like the thoroughly sad and bitter bastard he has become and ran down the pitch, wheeling across in front of us with his hand behind his ear and a big grin on his face. He just doesn't get it does he? He thinks he's triumphed. By coming out with things like "it would hurt throughout the summer if his old club made off with the title" and "they only boo me because they know how much it hurt United to lose me" (?) all he has done is made himself an enemy of the fans who could still be calling him a hero and giving him standing ovations as he comes off the pitch (as we do for Eric, Sparky, Pally, Brucey etc etc, even Dion last weekend and Les Sealey a few months ago). The man is stupid and arrogant and we're well rid of him - who would swap him for Keano - any takers? I think not. Of course our ordeal wasn't yet over as we had to wait whilst the police cleared the stadium and the surrounding roads so that we could be "escorted back to the coaches, car park and railway station" (not that they provided an escort for us to walk back into enemy territory to our car!) The scousers were in no mood to leave and we had to endure their celebrations for another 20 minutes whilst keeping our spirits up singing "The Red Flag" and laughing at a scouser who ran all the way from the Kop to invite 3000 United fans to take him on!! "You're not going home" was the response. Eventually we got out of the god-forsaken place, made it back to our car in one piece (and the car was still in one piece, which was even more of a miracle) and headed off back along the M62 along with all the "local" scousers in their coaches and cars. This morning I heard Charlie being interviewed on GMR, he said "They didn't win the title until I went there"!! As I said, the man is arrogant and stupid - re-writing United history to see himself as the saviour of Manchester United - I don't know why we bothered signing Eric Cantona, obviously we could have managed without him! Today, I've calmed down just a little, although you can tell from the tone and length of this report that it will take me a while to look back on last night with any real degree of calm. I don't share the general despondency about the title though - last night made the players and Fergie very angry indeed - they will do what's necessary to ensure that Charlie has not ruined our season. Oh yes, and man-of-the-match? Definately Roy Keane - a giant amongst men and worth a thousand times that little ****** that used to play in our midfield. OUR SALFORD LASS
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Subject: Guardian Ince wounds United By Ian Ross at Anfield Thursday May 6, 1999 Paul Ince dealt his former club Manchester United's title hopes a severe blow last night when he equalised in the dying seconds to earn Liverpool a draw after they had trailed 2-0 at one stage. It left United, who were reduced to 10 men when Dennis Irwin was sent off in 75th minute, three points behind Arsenal and although they have a game in hand the north Londoners now have the edge in terms of goal difference. It was a most breathless evening. Anfield has always appreciated thoroughbred sides and in between the frenzied bouts of Scouse partisanship, there seemed a genuine respect for United, if not individually then certainly collectively. It is called grudging admiration. Liverpool's coach Gerard Houllier had boxed clever before the game, praising United for their achievements while reminding his own crestfallen players that victory would serve to partially absolve them of their more transparent sins. But for as long as they must perform without Michael Owen and Robbie Fowler, Liverpool teams will look unbalanced, too heavy at the back, too lightweight upfront. New players will likely pour through Anfield's front door in the summer - the Czech international Vladimir Smicer and Guinea's Titi Camara will head the queue - but until then Houllier will continue to pass off fools' gold as a precious metal. His approach to what he described as a 'cup final' was admirably cavalier and by pushing three men forward he was possibly subscribing to the theory that, when pitted against superior opponents, it is better to fight on your feet than die on your knees. Although Jaap Stam and Roy Keane were restored to the heart of United's defence and midfield respectively, Ryan Giggs's ankle was not risked. Even bigger tests lie ahead for United. The opening was a blur with United, perhaps, a little surprised by the level of their hosts' commitment. The problem was, and it is a familiar one, that Liverpool's football was underpinned by no great intelligence - energy, yes, guile, no. Rigobert Song plotted much down the right flank, but even when the United full-back Denis Irwin was undone there was no hint of an end product simply because Liverpool's only recognised striker the German Karl Heinz Riedle who was wellshadowed by the Dutchman Stam. The evening was almost brutal in its intensity with a cavalcade of late, high and plain nasty tackles coming in from the most unlikely of sources. It had not yielded a single chance before United moved in front midway through the half with a sublime goal, an oasis in a desert of mediocrity. Keane filtered the ball down the right and David Beckham's first-time cross was exquisite, sailing over the Liverpool back line and into the path of Dwight Yorke, who scored with the cleanest of headers. The spell had been broken and as Anfield fell silent, Liverpool seemed likely to allow all the old uncertainties come to the surface and render them impotent. Their self-belief punctured, the Merseysiders permitted the pace of their game to slacken and on a night when sheer physical effort was their best ally, it did nothing to improve their prospects. For all their possession Liverpool did not fashion even a half chance until early in the second period and even then it was insufficient to precipitate an increase in Peter Schmeichel's heart rate. Dominic Matteo moved smartly down the left flank and while his cross appeared misdirected and underhit it Paul Ince, but his volley was wild and high. It was a costly miss becausewithin minutes United had underlined a growing supremacy with a second goal. Jesper Blomqvist rounded Song and seemed likely to score until he was caught in the throat by Jamie Carragher's desperate lunge. After much arguing and no little jostling, Irwin steered home sweetly from the penalty spot. Thereafter, Liverpool lost their way and their temper. But, unexpectedly, they moved back into contention after 69 minutes when Jamie Redknapp whacked home a penalty after Blomqvist was adjudged to have fouled Oyvind Leonhardsen. Liverpool (0) 2 - 2 (1) Man Utd Redknapp (70) pen Yorke (22) Ince (88) Irwin (57) pen Liverpool Friedel; Babb, Matteo, Song, Staunton; Berger, Ince, Leonhardsen, Redknapp, Thompson; Carragher; McManaman, Riedle. Manchester United Schmeichel; Irwin, Johnsen, Neville, G, Neville, P, Stam; Beckham, Blomqvist, Butt, Keane; Cole, Scholes, Yorke. Referee: D. R. Elleray (Harrow-on-the-Hill) Attendance: 44,702 Bookings Liverpool: None Manchester United: Scholes (58) Irwin (60) Keane (90) Sent off Liverpool: None Manchester United: Irwin (60)
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Subject: Does Paul Ince hate United so much? by Boon Wee I came across a very disturbing quote while going through some match reports in the morning. Paul Ince was quoted saying that he does not care if his goal would cause United the league champions. Ince added that United have won it many times and it's good to see another team winning it. Does he hate United so much to warrant such a remark? The situation brought me back to the day when Law scored to send United to division 2. Comparing the mood of those two guys who scored, I have to say that my respect for Ince is now dead and buried. It's easy to say that United will make it, or to borrow Ferguson's now famous statement, "United likes to do it the hard way". In the past, we have been laughing at Newcastle, Liverpool and Arsenal fans for crying at the final whistle. Last night, it was our turn. Cameras zoomed in on a couple of fans with tears on their eyes and heads buried in their hands. The wind has now changed directions. As mentioned, it's easy to say those comforting words to yourself and others. United has been coming from behind a lot this season. Can they now do it again when it matters? To do so, United MUST win all their 3 games remaining. Arsenal looks unlikely to draw or lost their last two games, so United will have to do it on their own. It's quite scary to know that the much talked about league championship could be gone this Sunday should United draw or lost and Arsenal winning their 37th league game. Ironically, it will be former United players who will be plotting United's downfall. How cruel life is. Robson and Pallister, Kidd and McClair, who will be the saint? It's even more desperate when Kidd is trying to prevent Blackburn from the drop. In short, the thought of a league championship is no longer on everybody's mind, let alone the treble. United could end up with nothing at all after so much hype and excitement. How I wish those thoughts could go away. In my opinion, two situations caused this anxiety. Was Elleray right in giving Liverpool the penalty? Unfortunately, he does not have slow motion devices to view the incident. Blomqvist's tackle was legitimate. Even with the score at 2-1. United would have hung on. Forward the second case, why did Irwin did what he did? It was absolutely uncalled for. Not only did he disturbed the United structure, he now put himself out of the FA Cup final. It was indeed suicidal. Of course, Ince went on to equalize on the 87th min. And how he enjoyed that goal. In the end, United were lucky to get a draw. Carragher had missed a free header in the dying minutes of the game. United's tactic for the night was obvious, soak and strike. It worked well in fact. United scored from their first real attack. And that was after United soaked 22mins of Liverpool pressure. Beckham's trademark cross was met firmly by Yorke who outjumped Song. It was back to Liverpool after that. Yorke nearly doubled his tally later in the half if not for Friedel's save. United looked capable of handling Liverpool. United carried on the same style in the second half. Song failed to intercept a pass into Liverpool's box and Blomqvist sneaked in to steal the ball. Carragher at that moment kicked the Swede's chest instead of the ball. Penalty for United and hopefully, Blomqvist won't be getting any rib injuries. Irwin who missed the penalty against Villa on Saturday scored this time round. 2-0 to United and 2-1 to Arsenal then. All United fans must be hoping that Spurs would pull another goal back. Then came the two incident, and of course, Spurs failed to score another one, Arsenal did. And hence we now reach the current situation. United must show their mental strength and not break down in pressure. Composure and concentration is a must, anything less than that would be a disaster. One would wish that Giggs will be back as soon as possible. sorry, but to me, Blomqvist can never replace Giggs. His passes were often either too short or inaccurate. He was easily brushed aside by tough defenders. Most importantly, he hardly ran down the flank. He may be contributing a lot defensively (and getting good at it), it's his contribution to the front that is more vital. He just lacks that "oomph!". This Sunday will be do or die. Traveling fans, please cheer/shout like you have never cheer/shout before (even if Boro scores). Me? I could only pray and wait. Is there one more big twist for United? I don't have the heart to know. Sigh. Cheers from a now emotionally drained supporter. Boon Wee Copyright 1999. All Rights Reserved. http://members.xoom.com/heathens/mufc.html
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Subject: Irwin in Wembley anguish after first sending-off 2 articles Irwin in Wembley anguish after first sending-off MANCHESTER, England, May 6 - Manchester United defender Denis Irwin, sent off for the first time in his 16-year career on Wednesday, has talked of his anguish at having to miss the F.A. Cup final against Newcastle United on May 22. The 33-year-old Irish international was dismissed in the 71st minute in the 2-2 draw with Liverpool for kicking the ball away after he chased it along the touchline in a bid to stop United conceding a throw in. He had been booked earlier for a foul on Steve McManaman in a match which cost United two valuable premier league points. "I haven't too many years left and not many Wembley appearances left, if any. This could have been my last chance, Irwin told the Manchester Evening News. He complained: "If it was out it was only just out. There was nothing in it and you have to keep on playing in a situation like that. "I didn't even boot the ball away after I played on. I just flicked it to Andy Cole to try and keep the move going." ---------------- IRWIN: REF RUINED MY WEMBLEY DREAM Denis Irwin insisted referee David Elleray was wrong to send him off for the first time in his career, denying the defender a possible last appearance at Wembley. The 33-year-old Manchester United full-back was dismissed after picking up two cautions against Liverpool at Anfield on Wednesday and will be suspended for the FA Cup Final. Irwin's only hope is that Elleray re-considers his decision after seeing a video of the match and cancels the second yellow card, handed out for kicking the ball away during the 2-2 draw that dented United's title hopes. Irwin, who has FA Cup winner's medals, said: "I haven't too many years left and that means not many Wembley appearances, if any. "This could have been my last chance, but it is not just about me missing the FA Cup Final, it is also the fact that we were down to 10 men at a delicate and crucial stage of the match. I'm disappointed that it left the lads battling on against 11 players." Elleray booked Irwin for a 61st minute foul on Steve McManaman then was shown a second yellow followed by a red card for kicking the ball away after the linesman had flagged for a throw-in. The Republic of Ireland left-back added: "I deserved the first booking because I mistimed my tackle, but it was touch and go whether the ball was in or out for the second. "What am I supposed to do? Do I stop because I think it might be over the line? I couldn't see the linesman's flag because he was behind me and I don't think there was a whistle from the referee. "If it was out, it was only just out. There was nothing in it and you have to keep on playing in a situation like that. I didn't even boot the ball away after I played on. I just flicked it to Andy Cole to try to keep the move going. "There had been players actually getting away with kicking the ball away and I could tell as soon as I turned round what was going to happen. I knew the consequences because beforehand the boss had told us. The referee also knew what the situation was. To be sent off for that is disappointing." Premier League referees' officer Philip Don has defended David Elleray for Irwin's dismissal. Don insists that Elleray was merely following the rules of the game at Anfield and does not believe that the match official should overturn the yellow card which will see Irwin suspended for the FA Cup final in two weeks. "David applied the laws of the game and, in my opinion, he had no alternative," Don said. "You cannot have common sense and consistency and the law is quite explicit on players who kick the ball away. "The whistle had gone and Denis (Irwin) played the ball twice and kicked it away. The law has been broken." © PA Sporting Life
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Subject: FERGUSON TO ESCAPE ACTION AFTER REF BLAST Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson is unlikely to face disciplinary action following his remarks about referee David Elleray after the Premiership clash against Liverpool at Anfield. Ferguson was incensed after seeing Denis Irwin dismissed before the Merseysiders went on to score a late equaliser and dent his side's Premiership challenge, and claimed that Elleray had cost United the game. "We would have won the game had it not been for the referee," Ferguson said. "But we are not going to let him deny us winning the League." He added: "The referee handed it to them. It doesn't do our game any good to see things like that." But the Football Association are unlikely to act unless Elleray includes Ferguson's comments in his report which will reach the FA headquarters at Lancaster Gate on Friday.
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Subject: Sam old Man U. Always agony MANCHESTER United's ability to win trophies is equalled only by their boundless talent to make life agonisingly difficult for themselves. In the seething bearpit of Anfield last night, they once again displayed the recklessness that both infuriates and delights in a match that threw the championship race wide open. This was from the Times report by Matt Dickinson. Never a truer word was written about United. The ball is still in our court but if we drop any more points, we can forget it. David O'Leary (who played over 700 games for Arsenal) may have had his pride wounded yesterday by Chelsea but Leeds have nothing to play for so don't expect favours from them. And Villa are crap - they will not take any points from Arsenal on the last day of the season. Yes Reds, we HAVE to win our last three and hope we can pip the Gooners on goals scored or difference. Now, that would be sweet but I think we may lose a few Reds who have faint hearts. My doctor advised me to stay away from stress!!!!! Fat chance. If I supported the Scousers maybe but United - always stressful. It has led me to pen a new chant: "Same old Man U. Always agony." Manchester United - The Legend: http://manunited.net
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Subject: Warning 365: PALLISTER PREPARED TO RUIN UNITED'S DREAM MIDDLESBROUGH defender Gary Pallister could spoil a few friendships on Sunday when Manchester United visit the Riverside Stadium for a game that could see their title challenge suffer another blow. Pally spent nine seasons with United before moving back to Boro last summer, but if can stop his former teammates doing what Arsenal did to his new team in their last home game he'll be delighted - whether that hands the title to the Gunners or not. "These games are great yardsticks for yourselves, to see how far you have come as a team, and also for yourself personally," Pallister told Football365. "The manager has said to us that we don't want to lose our good home record - we'd only lost one game before the Arsenal match. And we want to finish as high as possible and maybe give ourselves a chance of Europe, either through the InterToto or if UEFA allow more teams into the UEFA Cup. It's not about Arsenal or Manchester United. It's about what we're going to do. And we can't stand for a repeat of what happened against Arsenal (Boro lost 6-1)." Pallister is back in the heart of the Middlesbrough defence, were he started his career. But back then they were a struggling Division Three team in the hands of the receivers, playing games at Darlington because their Ayresome Park home was locked. Now they are going for a top six place, play in front of 30,000 sell-out crowds every game in their soon-to-be-expanded Cellnet Riverside Stadium and he only goes to Darlo to train - and even then at Boro's magnificent new £6m Huworth training ground. "This is a different club to the one I left," confides the former England defender, "probably only the fans are the same. There are very few people left at the club from my time. But we've moved on. These are certainly some of the best training facilities in the land and there is room for even more. It's probably only half completed so far, but players who we are trying to buy will come down to see this and be mightily impressed by it." Having spent the bulk of his career in the north-west, Pallister could be forgiven for wanting to wind his career down at one of the many other clubs in the area without having to up-sticks from his Cheshire home. But the 33-year-old has managed to prolong his career in the top-flight and returned to his roots in one sweet move. "I spent nine great years at Manchester and I love the place but this is where I grew up," says the former Billingham Town junior. "It's where my family and friends are, so this has always been my home. But there is still a lot of affection for Manchester, and Cheshire where I lived. You've got to have faith in your own ability and know you can do the job. I felt I could still play in the Premiership for another two or three years and it was great for me to come back to a club I knew so well. It was the only club I'd have left for. The manager knew that and, once I realised it was my time to go, it was the perfect scenario for me." Having been hammered by Arsenal and drawn in the derby at Newcastle, Boro are keen for a rousing finale to their season - and who better to beat than the European Cup finalists? With the chance to finish fifth still at stake, Boro boss Bryan Robson will relish the chance to turn over his former mentor, Alex Ferguson. "We've had a difficult run-in; Arsenal, Newcastle in the derby, United and West Ham - who are vying for the top six," said Pallister, who played with Robson for five seasons at Old Trafford, twice lifting the league championship before Robbo left for Teeside, "but that's kept things interesting for everyone right to the end of the season." Boro are one of only three clubs to have beaten United in the Premiership, wining 3-2 at Old Trafford in December. But it was not the springboard to the pursuit of a Champions League place that they hoped for. Instead, they found themselves glancing over their shoulders at the bottom three. Pallister is still none-the-wiser for the temporary but dramamtic decline. "We were in free-fall after we beat United - everything started to go pear-shaped, but it was really hard to put a finger on it," he said. "It was the same lads going out there week-in, week-out but the results weren't going for us. We were playing quite well at home but not getting the breaks and missing a few chances. Away from home we just couldn't keep a clean sheet and having a shocking time. "I have had that experience once before, when I was first at Middlesbrough and we got relegated from Division One. It's hard to snap out of. It becomes a habit, getting beat. I'm not a psychologist but, as I say, we couldn't put a finger on it. But we've been on a great run so everything's rosy in the garden now." And while Pally had expressed wonder at whether he could still be at United and one step away from the holy grail - a European champions medal - he was always sure that his successor, £10m Jaap Stam, would be a terrific replacement, despite the big Dutchman's shaky performances early in the season. "People try to scrutinise too much and look for every little thing in his performances because of his price tag," he said. "It's something I got when I first went to United because it was such a high fee people expected me to keep them out single-handedly! I was 24 when I went there, not much different to Stam, and I went into a side that was not doing particularly well, along with four of five other players. The club as well as the players took a hell of a lot of flak. Stam's a quality player and he's proven that week-in, week-out. I've spoken to the lads there and they are delighted with him."
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