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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Sat Feb 06 05:04:54 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
2. Forty-one years
3. A Commemoration of the Munich Air Disaster
4. A Message for Eddie by Our Salford Lass
5. Thinking of Dennis


Daily RED Trivia  Saturday 6th February 1999:

1958: Anniversary of the Munich Air disaster. 8 Players lost their lives, Geoff Bent, Roger
  Byrne, Eddie Colman, Duncan Edwards, Mark Jones, David Pegg, Tommy Taylor and 
  Billy Whelan. Walter   Crickmer (Secretary), Bert Whalley (Coach), Tom Curry (Trainer), 8 
  Journalists, 2 Crew members and 2 other passengers also lost their lives. Injuries
  sustained by Johnny Berry and Jackie Blanchflower were such that they never played again.

1975: Jimmy Nicholl made his debut against Tottenham Hotspur. A versatile defender, he
  played in the FA Cup Finals of 1977 and 1979, collecting one Winners medal. A total
  of 247 appearances and 6 goals between 1975-81. 73 caps for Northern Ireland, playing
  in the 1982 and 1986 World Cup Finals. He moved to Toronto Blizzard in April 1982. 

Barry Daily Comment:
An announcement has just been made confirming that Steve McLaren has
accepted the post of Assistant Manager at Manchester United.  His first
game will be at Forest tomorrow.  Ray Harford is taking over the coaching
post at Derby.

The Independent is asking for people to send questions in to Sir Bob, to be
published in 2 weeks time. Perhaps this is our chance to put him on the
spot re Murdoch and the takeover. Send your questions to:
You Ask the Questions 
The Independent, 1 Canada Square, London E14 5DL
Or e-mail: yourquestions@independent.co.uk

Previous News:
 Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!

Next games: 
ALL Result/Fixture Index:

Today!  Nottm Forest   (A)  15.00 
"Live Comms": http://www.soccerone.com/sections/listenlive_schedule.html 

14 Fulham         (H)  14.00  FAC 5th round 
17 Arsenal        (H)  20.00 
20 Coventry       (A)  15.00
27 Southampton    (H)  15.00

UNITED Stats v All teams:

*** LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 03/02/99 ***

Pos Team                  P   W   D   L   F   A   GD  Pts
 1  Manchester United    24  13   8   3  51  26   25   47
 2  Chelsea              23  11  10   2  34  19   15   43
 3  Aston Villa          23  12   7   4  35  22   13   43
 4  Arsenal              23  11   9   3  24  11   13   42
 5  Leeds United         23   9   9   5  36  23   13   36
 6  Liverpool            23  10   5   8  44  28   16   35
 7  Wimbledon            23   9   8   6  29  33   -4   35
 8  Derby County         24   8  10   6  23  21    2   34
 9  West Ham United      23   9   6   8  25  31   -6   33
10  Middlesbrough        23   7  11   5  32  28    4   32
11  Leicester City       23   7   9   7  25  27   -2   30
12  Tottenham Hotspur    23   7   9   7  29  31   -2   30
13  Newcastle United     23   7   7   9  28  32   -4   28
14  Sheffield Wednesday  23   7   5  11  25  23    2   26
15  Everton              23   5   9   9  13  25  -12   24
16  Coventry City        23   6   5  12  23  32   -9   23
17  Blackburn Rovers     23   5   7  11  22  30   -8   22
18  Southampton          23   5   5  13  23  46  -23   20
19  Charlton Athletic    23   3   8  12  26  37  -11   17
20  Nottingham Forest    23   3   7  13  19  41  -22   16

*** FIXTURES Today! ***
         Aston Villa  v  Blackburn Rovers
             Chelsea  v  Southampton
        Leeds United  v  Newcastle United
      Leicester City  v  Sheffield Wednesday
           Liverpool  v  Middlesbrough
   Nottingham Forest  v  Manchester United
   Tottenham Hotspur  v  Coventry City
     West Ham United  v  Arsenal

*** FIXTURES ON 07/02/99 ***
        Derby County  v  Everton


Date        Opposition      Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal		     Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251
17/10/98    Wimbledon                Home     W  5-1     2    55,265
24/10/98    Derby County             Away     D  1-1     2    30,867
31/10/98    Everton                  Away     W  4-1     2    40,079
08/11/98    Newcastle United         Home     D  0-0     3    55,174
14/11/98    Blackburn Rovers         Home     W  3-2     2    55,198
21/11/98    Sheffield Wednesday      Away     L  1-3     2    39,475
29/11/98    Leeds United             Home     W  3-2     2    55,172
05/12/98    Aston Villa              Away     D  1-1     2    39,241
12/12/98    Tottenham Hotspur        Away     D  2-2     1    36,079
16/12/98    Chelsea                  Home     D  1-1     2    55,159
19/12/98    Middlesbrough            Home     L  2-3     3    55,152
26/12/98    Nottingham Forest        Home     W  3-0     3    55,216
29/12/98    Chelsea                  Away     D  0-0     3    34,741
10/01/99    West Ham United          Home     W  4-1     3    55,180
16/01/99    Leicester City           Away     W  6-2     2    22,091
31/01/99    Charlton Athletic        Away     W  1-0     1    20,043
03/02/99    Derby County             Home     W  1-0     1    55,174

Champions League:
Group D         P  W  D  L  F  A   Pts
Bayern Munich   6  3  2  1  9  6  11   
Man United      6  2  4  0 20 11  10
Barcelona       6  2  2  2 11  9   8    
Brondby         6  1  0  5  4 18   3   

Dec  9 Brøndby         0-2  Barcelona
Dec  9 Man Utd         1-1  Bayern Munich


 Manchester Utd    v   Inter Milan
 Real Madrid       v   Dynamo Kiev
 Juventus          v   Olympiakos
 Bayern Munich     v   Kaiserslautern

 Ties to be played on March 3 and 17


Munich, the 6th of February 1958 [click on pic for more]

Subject: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v MANCHESTER UNITED Forest Team News Ron Atkinson may have to play a waiting game before finalising his line-up. The new Forest boss has doubts surrounding three key players and may not be able to make a decision on two of them until this morning. Winger Steve Stone and defender Stale Stensaas are both nursing thigh injuries and have been forced to miss a number of training sessions in the build-up to the sell-out City Ground clash with the league leaders. Striker Pierre van Hooijdonk is the other cause for concern. Earlier in the week he was complaining of being in discomfort and it was discovered he had air trapped between a lung and his ribs. Team (from): Beasant, Harkes, Palmer, Hjelde, Stensaas, Stone, Johnson, Gemmill, Rogers, van Hooijdonk, Darcheville, Chettle, Porfirio, Bart-Williams, Woan, Lyttle, Gray, Shipperley, Freedman, Quashie, Bonalair, Armstrong The Forest View ''When the fixtures came out United probably looked upon this as a certain three points. But you can guarantee we will make it as difficult as possible for them. If it's level with ten minutes left I'll stick on another striker. I'd rather lose it trying to win than sit back and settle for a draw. Draws are no good to us at the moment'' - Ron Atkinson. THE STATS Last season: No corresponding fixtures; Last five league matches: Nottm Forest L D L L W, Man Utd D W W W W; Top scorers: Dougie Freedman (Nottm Forest) 7; Dwight Yorke (Man Utd) 19; Match odds: H 4-1 A 8-13 D 12-5; Ref: P Alcock (Halstead) United Team News Manager Alex Ferguson will bring back Andy Cole and David Beckham after resting them for Wednesday's win over Derby. Paul Scholes and Ole Gunnar Solksjaer could be rested and United will definitely be without Ryan Giggs, who is having treatment on a hamstring strain. Jesper Blomqvist could start. Team (from): Schmeichel, G Neville, Johnsen, Stam, Irwin, Beckham, Keane, Butt, Blomqvist, Cole, Yorke, Scholes, Solksjaer, P Neville, May, Brown, Berg, van der Gouw The United View "You don't get easy games anywhere, and we are expecting a tough match. They have a new manager in Big Ron, and he will have everybody thinking they can win the World Cup. You know what Ron's like, but we'll be ready for it" - Alex Ferguson Red-hot United face Forest Dwight Yorke - voted player of the month Manchester United's top strike pairing of Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole will take centre stage on Saturday when they visit Nottingham Forest with the chance of extending their lead in the Premiership. With 34 goals between them so far - 19 to Yorke, 15 to Cole - Alex Ferguson's goal-greedy duo have fired United four points clear at the top of the table. Both players had reason to celebrate this week. Cole was recalled to the England squad for next week's friendly against France, while Yorke hit his second successive match-deciding goal in a 1-0 home win over Derby which opened up the gap at the top. United have won five of their last six games but bottom club Forest, under the charismatic stewardship of former United boss Ron Atkinson, may not offer the easy pickings United might have expected a few weeks ago. Forest are on their second best run of the season - a one-match winning streak - after ending a dismal sequence of 20 games without a league victory last Saturday when they beat Everton 1-0 at Goodison Park. What's more, the City Ground pitch is very heavy which will not encourage United's smooth-passing style of play. Atkinson will be keeping his fingers crossed that striker Pierre van Hooijdonk, scorer of the winner at Everton, can recover from a lung injury in time for Saturday's clash. United will definitely be without winger Ryan Giggs, who damaged his hamstring against Derby.
Munich, the 6th of February 1958 [click on pic for more]

From: Peter Hargreaves (by way of Red-Devils List ) Subject: Forty-one years It seems like yesterday and yet it is now so long ago. I miss them every day, but on this particular day, each year, the sadness is just that little bit harder to bear. They shall not grow old As we that are left grow old Age shall not weary them Nor the years condemn At the going down of the sun, And in the morning We will remember them We will remember them I was young then and so were they. I am old now, but they are still young. God bless those boys, Pete Peter Hargreaves (United Kingdom) http://www.cheswem.u-net.com/
Munich, the 6th of February 1958 [click on pic for more]

From: "Bill McArthur" Subject: A Commemoration of the Munich Air Disaster 6th February 1968 Just after three-o-clock on Thursday afternoon, the 6th of February 1958, a BEA Elizabethan two-engined aircraft, 609 Zulu Uniform, on its third attempt to take off from the slush covered runway at Munich, careered through the perimeter fence with appalling loss of life. 23 of the 44 passengers and crew were killed. Eight of them were Manchester United players along with the club secretary and two coaches. Eight journalists, two crew, the club's travel agent and a supporter were also killed. Nine footballers survived with the most seriously injured nursed back to health by skilled surgeons and dedicated staff at Munich's Rechts Der Isar Hospital. Two were never to play again because of their injuries. *** Johnny Berry Matt Busby signed outside right Johnny Berry for £250,000 from Birmingham City in 1951 and his nickname of 'Digger' summed up the way he got dug in against the toughest of defenders. He won four England caps and spanned the Championship years of 1952, '56 and '57. He received severe head injuries in the crash, which forced an early retirement from the game. He died in 1994 aged 68. "We signed Johnny Berry because every time we played Birmingham City he led us a merry dance." - Sir Matt Busby *** Jackie Blanchflower A versatile player, Jackie Blanchflower even took over in goal in the FA Cup Final of 1957 after injury to Ray Wood. He won a Championship medal and 12 caps for Northern Ireland. Although he didn't play in Belgrade, the accident left him with severely damaged pelvis, arm and ribs which cost him his career at the age of 24. He stayed in the Manchester area and is now an accomplished after-dinner speaker. "It was a magnificent feeling to know you had a guy like Jackie Blanchflower." - Dennis Viollet *** Bobby Charlton He was the brilliant new boy when he was caught up in the maelstrom of Munich. Found in the crashed plane shocked but with just minor injuries, he returned for the FA Cup 6th round against West Bromwich. And went on to set club records with 606 League appearances and 199 goals. Won 106 England caps scoring 49 goals. Awarded the CBE, knighted and elected to the United board. "When things looked their blackest and there were times when I felt a great despair I was cheered enormously to think that Bobby Charlton was there." - Jimmy Murphy *** Bill Foulkes >From St Helens and a job in mining, Bill Foulkes became a United stalwart with 679 first-team appearances in 18 seasons to win four Championship medals, appear in three FA Cup finals and play a key role in the 1968 European Cup triumph. Became captain after emerging unhurt from the crash. Later a United youth coach, worked abroad a great deal and now represents Japanese football club interests in this country. "You could not put a price on Bill Foulkes because you cannot buy the type of loyalty he gave United." - Jimmy Murphy *** Harry Gregg A hero of Munich who, despite orders to get clear of the wrecked plane, went back in to rescue a baby and her mother. Tended his team-mates, too, after emerging from the crash with hardly a scratch. Signed for £23,000 from Doncaster Rovers shortly before the disaster to spend nine years at Old Trafford. Won 25 caps for Northern Ireland. Later a United coach, he now has a hotel in Ireland. "When you have a guy like that who climbed back into a burning plane to help his friends, you've said it all." - Nat Lofthouse *** Kenny Morgans An outstanding Welsh schoolboy, he was captain of United's youth team and made his League debut just three months before Munich as the babe of the side aged 18. Escaped serious injury in the crash and resumed playing in April, but the harrowing experience perhaps took an emotional toll and his early promise was unfulfilled. Later he played for Swansea, where he now lives, and Newport. "Kenny could play on concrete and run circles round everyone." - Harry Gregg *** Albert Scanlon Albert Scanlon played for Manchester Boys and won 2 Youth Cup medals at Old Trafford. Then in the first team he competed with David Pegg for the outside left position. Head and leg injuries at Munich halted his career. Resumed playing in the 1958-59 season but suffered a delayed reaction the following year to prompt transfers to Newcastle, Lincoln and Mansfield before retiring to embark on a variety of jobs around Manchester. "Albert Scanlon was unbelievable, he could run past people as if they were standing still." - Bill Foulkes *** Dennis Viollet Played the rapier to Tommy Taylor's broadsword to wing Championship medals with the Busby Babes. Born in Manchester and an England schoolboy international, he suffered head injuries in the accident and didn't play again until just before the FA Cup final. In season 1959-60 he scored 32 League goals, still a club record. Played for Stoke before moving on to a playing and coaching career in America. "Dennis Viollet would always be in my best all-time United team. Winning only tow England caps was an insult" - John Doherty *** Ray Wood Signed from Darlington to wind two Championship medals and take part in the memorable 1957 FA Cup final when he played on the wing after the collision which knocked him out and smashed his cheekbone. He lost his place to Harry Gregg but traveled to Belgrade and was trapped under a wheel in the crash. Later played for Huddersfield, Bradford City and Barnsley before coaching extensively abroad. Retired now and living in Bexhill, Sussex. "You didn't get miracles from Ray, he was just there when it mattered." - Sir Matt Busby *** Geoff Bent Captain of Salford Schoolboys when they won the English Schools Trophy, he would have commanded a place in most first teams. As a left back he was only able to make 12 appearances before he died in the crash aged 25 leaving his wife Marion and five-month-old daughter Karen. Although he had not played in the league team all season, he traveled to Belgrade as the ever ready reserve only to find he wasn't selected. "Geoff Bent was a great, great competitor and excellent defender, hard as nails." - Jimmy Murphy *** Roger Byrne Much respected and at the age of 28, a natural leader and captain for the Busby Babes. Bridged the gap from the 1952 Championship team as a winger to become a left back at the peak of his powers with 245 League appearances and 33 successive England caps when he lost his life at Munich. Eight months later his wife Joy gave birth to their son who was proudly christened Roger in his memory. "Let Byrne get the feel of things for about three First Division games and I'm prepared to say that he is certain to play for England." - Sir Matt Busby *** Eddie Colman Chubby cheeked and full of fun, he had only just turned 21 when he was killed at Munich. He came from Archie Street in Salford and proudly played for Salford Boys before joining United and quickly making 85 League appearances. He delighted fans with a body swerve which had him tagged as 'Snakehips' and made Jimmy Murphy say that Eddie could make the sun dance. "I always wanted to play like Eddie Colman, he was so fantastic on the ball." - Nobby Stiles *** Duncan Edwards A giant of a player in both ability and stature and undoubtedly destined for great things for both United and England after making his League debut at the age of 16. Grievously injured in the crash he fought bravely for his life for 15 days on a kidney machine. At one point he asked Jimmy Murphy what time the kick-off was for Saturday's match against Wolves. The doctors said he was so strong and brave, but it was a losing battle. He died aged 21. "The greatest of them all was an English footballer Duncan Edwards." - Jimmy Murphy *** Mark Jones A gentle giant of a centre half who came from a village on the outskirts of Barnsley and was noted for his trilby, pipe, black Labrador dog and budgies along with absolute devotion to his wife June and baby son Gary. He had made 120 first team appearances for United to wing two Championship medals and was on the verge of England selection when he died in the crash at the age of 24. "Mark Jones was as gentle as a mouse off the field, but on it he was as hard as nails." - Albert Scanlon *** David Pegg An England schoolboy star from Doncaster, David Pegg was only 17 when he made the first of 148 senior appearances for United as a dashing left winger. Had just been capped for the full England team after playing at junior levels when he perished at Munich at the age of 22. Matt Busby always used to say that he would have been an asset to any team because he was a natural left flank player. "David Pegg, a young boy who was England's winger. He was floating on air when I met him, a nice fellow who played with strength and pace." - Harry Gregg *** Tommy Taylor Signed by United in 1953 from his local club Barnsley for £29,999 to complete the Busby Babes attack. A formidable centre forward both on the ground and in the air, he scored 128 goals in 189 games for United and was England's centre forward with 16 goals from 19 appearances when he was killed at Munich just days after his 25th birthday. Loved as well for his mop of black hair and ever-present smile. "Tommy Taylor's death was the worst for me. I have never been able to make a friendship like that since." - Jackie Blanchflower *** Billy Whelan An enormously talented Busby Babe from Dublin's Home Farm club, his last words on the fateful and final attempt to take off were: 'If this is death, I am ready for it.' He was never afraid to bring his strong Roman Catholic faith to his sport. Although he was only 22 when he died he had an exceptional return of 52 goals from 96 games and had set a club record in 1956 by scoring in eight successive games. "Billy Whelan never knew how good he was, or if he did, he seemed embarrassed by his own skills." - Albert Scanlon *** Bill McArthur "There's only ONE United - Manchester United!"
Munich, the 6th of February 1958 [click on pic for more]

Subject: List: A Message for Eddie by Our Salford Lass 6th February 1999 A message for Eddie In the Throstle's Nest recently, I was asked who is my favourite all-time United player. I thought of Sir Bobby and Sparky and Eric - all very special to me. And of course current players such as Scholes and Ole. But Eddie, when it came to make a choice, there was no contest, I just couldn't get past your name. You are still as special for me now as you were all those years ago when I was a little girl. You were my first love and I loved you with all my heart. Like thousands of others, my heart was broken on this day in 1958. It's been a long time, but I remember it so vividly and it still hurts as much as ever. I will never forget you Eddie. I will never forget your smile and your vitality and your awesome talent, which never had its full chance to flower. I don't only think of you once a year, I think of you almost every day. But on this special and heartbreaking day every year, my thoughts turn to you, to the other wonderful boys who died with you, to the survivors who still suffer today and, of course, to Sir Matt - now reunited with "his" boys. In a recent film, the heroine said of her lost lover that he couldn't die because he lived forever in her heart - and as long as her heart went on, so he would go on. Well Eddie, if that is true then you and the other Babes will never die - because you will live forever in the hearts of Reds all over the world. I love you Eddie - God bless and keep you, and all those who are close to our hearts and who have passed on before us. Linda Copyright © 1999 by Our Salford Lass. All rights reserved. Not to be reproduced without permission of the author
Munich, the 6th of February 1958 [click on pic for more]

Subject: Thinking of Dennis 6th February, 1999 Friends, At the Munich Testimonial game recently, I had the pleasure of meeting with Helen Viollet. It was a very special evening for me, only marred by the sad news that Dennis couldn't be with us because of ill health. I don't have to explain to any of you why Dennis is a United legend, dear to the hearts of all United fans. We remember not only his part in the wonderful team of the fifties and the Munich disaster, but also the immense contribution that Dennis made to the rebuilding of Manchester United in the years that followed. So on this sad day, when all our thoughts are with the lads who died at Munich, my thoughts will also be winging their way over the Atlantic to be with Dennis and Helen and to tell them that we are thinking about them, that we in the United family wish them both well. Helen, please put your arms around Dennis for all of us and tell him we love him. Linda
Munich, the 6th of February 1958 [click on pic for more]

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