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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Tues Oct 05  GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Today a special REDitorial on the Goalkeeper Massimo Taibi
2. United players get £154,000 rise 
4. Man Utd tighten purse strings 
5. Daily News Sound Archive (in Real Audio)
6. Manchester United Team - No van der Gouw  by Clint"



Barry Comment:
Our main article today is article nr1
Today a special REDitorial on the Goalkeeper Massimo Taibi 

Latest Table:
1 Leeds United  10 7 1 2  19 - 12   22 pts
2 Manchester U. 10 6 3 1  23 - 15   21
3 Sunderland    10 6 2 2  18 -  8   20
4 Chelsea        8 6 1 1  15 -  3   19
5 Arsenal       10 6 1 3  13 -  9   19

ECL Group D  ** Manchester United **
Olympique de Marseille * NK Croatia Zagreb * SK Sturm Graz

Manchester United FC Champions League Squad List
 1 Mark John Bosnich      2 Gary Alexander Neville 3 Dennis Joseph Irwin
 4 David May              6 Jakob Stam             7 David Robert J Beckham
 8 Nicholas Butt          9 Andrew Alex. Cole      10 Edward Sheringham
11 Ryan Joseph Giggs     12 Philip Neville         14 Johan Jordi Cruyff
15 Lars Jesper Blomqvist 16 Roy Keane           17 Raimond RJH Van der Gouw
18 Paul Scholes          19 Dwight Yorke           20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 Henning Berg          23 Michael Jamie Clegg    25 Josť Quinton Fortune
26 Massimo Taibi         31 Nicholas James Culkin  33 Mark Antony Wilson
34 Jonathan Greening

Real Audio - Last weeks Daily News Sound Archive:
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99/2000 fixtures/match reports are at

Mark Bosnich's Personal Details 



Previous News:
 BSKYB Takeover news/pics at http://www.red11.org/mufc/bskyb.htm
  Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
 Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!

11-OCT-1999 Sir Alex Ferguson's testimonial OT [Schmeichel + Cantona]
13-OCT-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Aston Villa  (Worthington (League) Cup, AWAY)
16-OCT-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Watford  (FA Premier League, HOME)
19-OCT-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Marseille  (UEFA Champions League, AWAY)
24-OCT-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Spurs  (FA Premier League, AWAY)

The line-up for the testimonial game is:
Eric Cantona		Peter Schmeichel
Zinedine Zidane		Gabriel Batistuta
Paul Gascoigne 		Juninho
George Weah		Alessandro Costacurta
Christian Ziege		Lillian Thuram
Roberto Mancini		John Collins


UNITED Stats v All teams:
ALL FIXTURES at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix992000.htm
First Team Fixtures 1999/2000
All dates/times subject to change
Dates of possible cup ties also shown

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/07/99    Melbourne Australia   pre-season  W  2-0     -    60,000
18/07/99    Sydney    Australia   pre-season  W  1-0     -    78,000
21/07/99    Shanghai  Shenhua     pre-season  W  2-0     -    80,000
24/07/99    Hong Kong South China pre-season  W  2-0     -    40,000

 1/08/99    Arsenal   Wembley Charity Shield  L  1-2     -    70,185
 3/08/99    Omagh Town Omagh Bomb Fund        W  9-0     -     7,000
 4/08/99    Wigan Athletic friendly           W  2-0     -    15,000 
08/08/99    Everton                  Away PL  D  1-1    10    39,141
11/08/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Home PL  W  4-0     3    54,941
14/08/99    Leeds United             Home PL  W  2-0     1    55,187
22/08/99    Arsenal                  Away PL  W  2-1     1    38,147
25/08/99    Coventry City            Away PL  W  2-1     1    22,024 
27/08/99    Monaco - Lazio               ESC  L  0-1     -    15,223
30/08/99    Newcastle United         Home     W  5-1     1    55,190
11/09/99    Liverpool                Away     W  3-2     1    44,929
14/09/99    Croatia Zagreb           Home EC  D  0-0     -    53,250
18/09/99    Wimbledon                Home     D  1-1     1    55,189
22/09/99    Sturm Graz               Away EC  W  3-0     -    16,480
25/09/99    Southampton              Home     D  3-3     1    55,249
29/09/99    Marseille                Home EC  W  2-1     -    54,276
 3/10/99    Chelsea                  Away PL  L  0-5     2    34,909

*11/10/99   Sir Alex Ferguson's testimonial OT [Schmeichel + Cantona]
13/10/99    Aston Villa              Away WC 3 19.45
16/10/99    Watford                  Home PL   15.00
19/10/99    Marseille                Away EC   19.45 
24/10/99    Tottenham Hotspur        Away PL   15.00 - moved from 23/10
27/10/99    Croatia Zagreb           Away EC   19.45
30/10/99    Aston Villa              home PL   15.00
 2/11/99    Sturm Graz               Home EC   19.45 
 6/11/99    Leicester City           Home PL   15.00
20/11/99    Derby County             Away PL   15.00
24/11/99    ?     EC
27/11/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Away PL   15.00
30/11/99    Tokyo  Palmeiras         WCC       20.00
 1/12/99    ?     WC 4
 4/12/99    Everton                  Home PL   15.00
 8/12/99    ?     EC
11/12/99    FAC 3 Will not enter ...
15/12/99    ?     WC 5
18/12/99    West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
26/12/99    Bradford City            Home PL   15.00
28/12/99    Sunderland               Away PL   20.00  "live on sky"
 3/01/2000  Middlesborough           Home PL   20.00

 ***** 5-14 /01/2000 Brazil WTC  *****   [3-4 games]

*  8/01/2000  FAC 4 Will not enter ...
12/01/2000  ?    WC sf i
15/01/2000  Leeds United             Away PL   15.00
22/01/2000  Arsenal                  Home PL   15.00
26/01/2000  ?    WC sf ii
* 29/01/2000  FAC 5 Will not enter ...
 5/02/2000  Coventry City            Home PL   15.00
12/02/2000  Newcastle United         Away PL   15.00
* 19/02/2000  FAC 6 Will not enter ...
26/02/2000  Wimbledon                Away PL   15.00
27/02/2000  ?   Wembley WC f
 1/03/2000  ?   EC
 4/03/2000  Liverpool                Home PL   15.00
 8/03/2000  ?   EC
11/03/2000  Derby County             Home PL   15.00
15/03/2000  ?   EC
18/03/2000  Leicester City           Away PL   15.00
22/03/2000  ?   EC
25/03/2000  Bradford City            Away PL   15.00
 1/04/2000  West Ham United          Home PL   15.00
 5/04/2000  ?   EC qf i
 8/04/2000  Middlesborough           Away PL   15.00
*  9/04/2000  FAC sf Will not enter ...
15/04/2000  Sunderland               Home PL   15.00
19/04/2000  ?   EC qf ii
22/04/2000  Southampton              Away PL   15.00
24/04/2000  Chelsea                  Home PL   15.00
29/04/2000  West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
 3/05/2000  ?   EC sf i
 6/05/2000  Tottenham Hotspur        Home PL   15.00
10/05/2000  ?   EC sf ii
14/05/2000  Aston Villa              Away PL   15.00
* 20/05/2000 Wembley FAC f Will not enter ...
24/05/2000  ?    EC f



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Subject: Today a special REDitorial on the Goalkeeper Massimo Taibi Very much differing opinion from Barry Bill Salford Lass Paul Justin & Dave Before we start here is the result of last weeks survey: What do you think of UNITED's new keeper Massimo Taibi? He's good but he's no Schmeichel - YET! 44 55.7%**** Very Good 10 12.7% Not impressed 10 12.7% Excellent 9 11.4% Awful, sell him quick 6 7.6% Total: 79 voted Closed 03-Oct-99 04:15 GMT So the general opinion of REDS before yesterday was that Massimo Taibi is good enough. A confidence vote! ENJOY our REDitorial comment! Feel free to answer, use email: barry@www.red11.org ALL answers will be published tomorrow >>>>>>>>>>>>Webmaster Barry Nobody can be compared with the great Dane and all players [remember Jaap] need a seetling in period. One thing for sure we cannot blame a result such 5-0 yesterday on Taibi. Maybe he had an effect with a mistake to 1-0 but after that played without mistake. He had no chance in the remaining four goals. One can say a solid defence starts with confidence of the goalkeeper in any side. Our goalkeeper Massimo Taibi is not commanding enough yet but needs to be given a chance. I will not complain if Raimond is given his chance right now as the times that he has played the back four have had confidence in him. The future will hold the answer, I trust Sir Alex. >>>>>>>>>>>>Webmaster Bill I've only SEEN him play vs Liverpool, so I don't feel qualified to comment. >>>>>>>>>>>>OUR SALFORD LASS I think Massimo is a good keeper who is rapidly being made a scapegoat by some fans. Most of those who were abusing him yesterday (and saying he isn't good enough to replace Peter) have obviously forgotten not only Peter's shaky start when he came to the club, but also the number of times he picked the ball out of the net a couple of seasons ago - 11 goals in 2 games and according to the seagulls, and many United fans, he was finished. Of course he wasn't finished and neither is Massimo crap. He is an excellent goalkeeper who will replace the big Dane - he may never be as good as Peter (but then who will be) but he is, in my opinion, an excellent buy and will settle in. As for yesterday - he made a mistake for the first goal but the rest of them? Poor defending as far as I could see and he had little chance against them (Sutton, for example, had a free header). Towards the end of the second half he made two saves which kept the score from being even more embarrassing. So my comment is - to all those slagging him off - get off his back and give him a chance. The defeat yesterday wasn't down to him, it was down to the whole team who played appallingly, to a man. SALFORD LASS >>>>>>>>>>>>Masterfan Paul: It is rather premature to write off Massimo Taibi. However, United need to stablise the defence urgently, and so Raimond should take over for the Watford game. The defence do not have any understanding with Taibi on crosses, and at the moment he is coming out when he should stay eg the Hyppia/Poyet goals, and staying when he should be advancing. On the one hand, the language problem may be a factor. Perhaps he is not able to communicate as he wants to. The alternative is that his judgement is flawed, and this will be exposed as time goes on. Hopefully a spell out of the firing line will help Taibi settle, learn how to defend as a unit with his colleagues and build his confidence. From what I have seen of him (excepting the Le Tissier gaffe) he is a capable shot-stopper and must have some quality about him as the Wizard chased his signature for over a year. To bring Bosnich back now is an option, but VDG is a no-risk option, and we cannot afford to gift goals away like we have in the past few weeks. Bosnich must improve his kicking to play in the Premiership, no matter how good his handling is. I really think the Chelsea hiding was building up for a while, and the loss of Keane protecting in front of the back four, fatigue showing with Stam/Berg through lack of replacements, loss of Butt for 70 mins, wrong tactics by the Wizard, Chelsea due a win against us at the Bridge etc all contributed. Without Giggs on the left flank the balance of the side is affected, and indiscipline as seen lately has to be confronted. Retaliation just means suspensions, good for our rivals, no good to us. Hopefully the shirts can regroup, and put another 29 game unbeaten run in the Premiership. Enough wins in that and we might have another title! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics Designer Justin: A thought occurred to me at about 28 seconds past 4 on Sunday afternoon...MASSIMO TAIBI in Italian must translate to 'BIG MISTAKE'! I think this guy needs a spell in the reserves to adapt to the British game and get to learn the language. Kick,Punch and Throw would be a good start for him, especially if he plans on going out in this great city at night!At the moment he is a liability and he cost us 2 points last week and maybe a full 3 more yesterday...this is not acceptable for a team of our stature and a team hoping to repeat past success. Raimond has not put a foot wrong when he has played and like we saw against Arsenal he is a saver of crucial points against the most important opposition as you would expect from a keeper who enhanced his game alongside Schmeichel.Fergie surely can't stick with him after this performance and I would hope that Silvestre gets a break too whilst he adapts to the pace. United are also badly missing a left sided player who can do Giggsys' job for the half a season each year he is injured,surely Fergie can see that we need another option other than 'give it Becks'. As record profits are announced again today I wonder how long it will be before the Edwards wallet is breached and at the same time whether any of this 100 million will be used to secure the future of our much missed club captain. Uniteds' performance with or without Nicky Butt yesterday was like watching United in the pre Schmeichel days.....Everytime Chelsea got near our goal I thought they were going to score.Its not the end of the world and maybe a good hammering will hit the likes of Taibi...Butt....and Beckham hard. Since the treble and the crest of the wave that was the first six games of the season United have started to stutter and the defeat yesterday has been on the cards for a few weeks. Maybe I am being too cynical and think that United can and should beat everyone but hey...thats what its all about. I pay my money every week so I am entitled to give an opinion on what I see and I think I can just about cope with losing one game a year! I fear a backlash for the next team to come to Old Trafford though....Let me see who it is...erm...Watford...Now that should be an easy game?..? Funny how we lose for the first time in a year and this morning the sun is shining over Manchester after a month of constant rain?.....mmm.......God must be a Bitter Blue?!. Justin E. Graphic Artist www.red11.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave MUTV As far as MUTV is aware, Massimo will remain Number 1 for the Prem. games and Ray van der Gouw will take over during the Champions League. Bosnich will not be featuring until he gets back to full fitness. Personally, I think we should stick with Taibi, he's playing with half a side at the moment and as soon as Keane,Giggs,Neville etc return we will see the real Manchester United doing the business. Dave (MUTV)
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Subject: United players get £154,000 rise By Jonathan Prynn Manchester United's players have cashed in on the biggest pay increase in British football - an average of £154,000 per man. In total, United's wages and bonuses for the club's 50 professionals rose an astonishing £7.7 million last season, their company accounts reveal. The news will horrify other top clubs who are trying to compete with United's financial might while trying to keep down excessive wage demands. Although the total players' wage bill is not disclosed, the increase is thought to be around 40 per cent. Of the £7.7m rise, £4.2m was accounted for by wages and £3.5m (£70,000 per player on average) by bonuses for landing the FA Cup, Premier League and Champions League treble. The company said there were also 'significant bonus payments' to manager Sir Alex Ferguson and his coaching staff. The figures for the year to the end of July also reveal that the club's turnover smashed through the £100m barrier for the first time, while operating profits rose from £27m to £32.3m. However, TV channel MUTV, in which the company has a third share, made a loss of more than £5m in its first year.
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Subject: RECORD TURNOVER BUT NO MORE BUYS Manchester United have announced a record turnover of £110.7m - but chief executive Martin Edwards has revealed that the club will not be splashing out on one of the world's top players just yet. Edwards said: "Over the last two seasons we've spent £40m on players. We have a certain kitty there, a certain amount of money that we have to spend. If we go and buy a Rivaldo or somebody like that it may mean we can only buy one player. "With that £40m we've actually brought in around seven players, so it's really a question of evaluating the best solution. "You go and spend a lot of money on one player but he might not do the trick for you. Sometimes it's best to have a spread of players." United were boosted by a 20 per cent rise in operating profits, with last year's £27m rising to £32.3m. Edwards added: "If the manager comes to us with a request to buy players, as a board we sit down and we judge it. What you have to bear in mind is already this summer we have spent something like £11m on players. "Now if you're spending that money and you're not saving anything in the business to expand it, or whatever else, then that isn't a very clever situation." Sir Alex Ferguson has bought goalkeeper Massimo Taibi for £4.5m, defender Mickael Silvestre for £4m and Quinton Fortune for £1.5m in the last two months.
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Subject: Man Utd tighten purse strings Manchester United chief executive, Martin Edwards, has all but ruled out splashing out on one of the world's top players. On the day the club announced a record turnover of £110.7m, Edwards insisted the Red Devils - who were demolished 5-0 by Chelsea on Sunday - would have to think twice before signing up such names as Rivaldo or Ronaldo. Speaking on BBC radio 5 Live, Edwards said: "Over the last two seasons we've spent £40m on players. "We have a certain kitty there, a certain amount of money that we have to spend. If we go and buy a Rivaldo or somebody like that it may mean we can only buy one player. "With that £40m we've actually brought in around seven players, so it's really a question of evaluating the best solution." United, Britain's richest club, saw a 20% rise in operating profits from last year's £27m to £32.3m, though player transfer costs have increased considerably, from £5.5m to £10.2m. Manager Alex Ferguson has recently brought in a number of new signings, including under-fire goalkeeper Massimo Taibi (£4.5m), defender Mickael Silvestre (£4m) and winger Quinton Fortune (£1.5m). Edwards said:"If the manager comes to us with a request to buy players, as a board we sit down and we judge it. What you have to bear in mind is already this summer we have spent something like £11m on players. "Now if you're spending that money and you're not saving anything in the business to expand it, or whatever else, then that isn't a very clever situation." Ferguson: We'll bounce back Ferguson has admitted that his side could have no complaints about their mauling at Chelsea - their first defeat in 30 matches, and the worst since Newcastle hammered them by the same margin in October 1996. "We'll just have to bite the bullet and get on with it," he said. Ferguson refused to comment on the sending off of midfielder Nicky Butt and the Old Trafford boss also declined to speak about new goalkeeper Massimo Taibi, who was beaten after just 28 seconds by Gustavo Poyet's header. Ferguson said: "We had a bad start and were on the back-foot right from the beginning but I'm taking nothing from Chelsea who showed that they, along with Arsenal, are genuine title challengers. "A result like this just shows how hard it is to win the title but my players have bounced back before and they'll do it again. They've got to."
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Subject: Daily News Sound Archive (in Real Audio) Size Date Time File Name Description 71k Oct 3 2.04 ray_wilkins_after_chelsea.rm *Ray Wilkins comment after the Chelsea loss 134k Oct 3 1.39 mutv_report_after_chelsea.rm *MUTV report after Chelsea loss 222k Oct 1 3.25 new_training_center.rm *Description of the new state of the art training center. ** [Pics] http://www.red11.org/mufc/images/99/carrington 108k Sept 30 1.39 andy_teddy_after_marseille.rm *Andy and Teddy comments the day after Marseille 2-1 win! 181k Sept 29 2.47 fergie_press_room_after_marseille.rm *Alex in the OT Press room after Marseille 2-1 win! 228k Sept 28 3.49 becks_latest_sept99.rm *MUTV Beckham personal interview with David on current situation 142k Sept 27 2.11 taibi_reasons_david_meek.rm *Reasons why Taibi dropped that ball?? - David Meek 166k Sept 27 2.33 marseille_preview.rm *Marseille match preview - incl. facts on the French team 99k Sept 26 1.31 alex_players_after_south99.rm *Alex & players opinion on Massimo's blunder 138k Sept 26 2.07 keano_latest_sept99.rm *Roy Keane latest on knee injury ------------------------------------------- ***** EASY SURFING at THE THEATRE OF DREAMS ***** remember when surfing The Theatre Of Dreams http://www.red11.org/ +player name ALL these work - http://www.red11.org/report Latest Match - http://www.red11.org/match.htm Fixtures/Results - http://www.red11.org/sound Latest Sound Interviews - http://www.red11.org/stats Statistics - http://www.red11.org/reserves Reserves - http://www.red11.org/quiz MUFC RED Online QUIZ - http://www.red11.org/listpics Mail-List Members Pics - http://www.red11.org/player Updated Team Squad - http://www.red11.org/yorke Dwight Yorke - http://www.red11.org/cole Andy Cole - http://www.red11.org/pics ALL Pic - 1000's! etc etc many more words work try yourself HELP - if you find a word that does not work which you think should mail it to Barry : barrylee@post3.tele.dk Thanks from the WEBTEAM MUFC Hon. Executive CP Cheah Webmasters: Barry Leeming & Bill McArthur Stats: Masterfan 1999 Paul Hinson Design: Diana Low Graphics: Justin Eagleton & Sam Hayward
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Subject: Manchester United Team - No van der Gouw by Clint" I find it pretty amazing that there has so far not been any discussion concerning the merits of van der Gouw being the automatic first choice keeper. How is it that our first choice keeper in Europe (granted Taibi is ineligible), who performs brilliantly every time out and seems to communicate effectively with his defense, is not given the nod in the league and certainly never gets a mention on this list. Talk about being slighted. We are very fortunate that he is the team player that he is because there are a lot of players out there that would have been in the manager's office talking transfer. I appreciate that he is towards the end of his career but I thought we rewarded loyalty and good performances. Bosnich too must feel like he is being shafted. Sure he came into this unfit and out of shape but if recent reports are true, he has slimmed down and is ready to play, and to have to watch the pathetic display of Taibi must be really tough. I know that we hesitate under all circumstances to criticize our own on this list, but this guy is useless. There is also a huge communication problem and with a defense trying to get used to have someone else behind them other than the big man for the first time in years, Taibi is just not the right guy. On another note, is there any reliable source in Manchester for team news relating to the injury list. We seem to have players go out injured and not hear anything other than the crap you get to read in the tabloids right up until the moment they take the field weeks late or ahead of schedule depending on the latest report. Does the club not issue a report or is there not at least one reliable source with the right level of contact at the club who puts our regular injury reports? Still p....d off at having to listen to the idiots at the Social Club yesterday morning behaving like they had just won the league. Pity it's not April, they wouldn't have quite as much time to f..k it all up. Clint Buytenhuys
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