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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Fri Sep 24 06:38:27 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Utd Reserves v Aston Villa Quick Fire TV Report from Gigg Lane  
2. Manchester Senior Cup News
3. Keane's fresh injury stunner
4. David Beckham 7 years since League Debut TODAY! Congratulations
5. Re: Ask the StatMan how many players played for MUFC & Liverpool
6. Tetchy Beckham given the all clear - Guardian
8. Independant: Sturm Graz 0 Manchester United 3



Barry Comment:
Saw the REDS reserves lose to Villa on MUTV at Gigg Lane last night.
Quinton Fortune looks a good prospect. Expect him to take 
some part on Saturday v Southampton - report in todays news.

Just picked up an ad on Foxsports that the game v World XI will be
live including ERIC on Oct 12 at 5.00AM - more later.
Cheers, David Marshall, Brisbane, Australia.

Uniteds unbeaten runs currently stand at:
28 games League
43 games League and Cup
37 games domestic League and Cup

Message from Paul Hinson:
The 40-game record Nottingham Forest hold is 40 games in domestic League
and Cup. United need to remain unbeaten against Southampton/Chelsea/Watford
and whoever we play in the Worthington Cup 3rd Round to beat it.
The League only record is 42 games, against by Forest, and we would need to
avoid defeat up to around January 15 2000 to manage that!

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Group D  ** Manchester United **
Olympique de Marseille * NK Croatia Zagreb * SK Sturm Graz

Manchester United FC Champions League Squad List
 1 Mark John Bosnich      2 Gary Alexander Neville 3 Dennis Joseph Irwin
 4 David May              6 Jakob Stam             7 David Robert J Beckham
 8 Nicholas Butt          9 Andrew Alex. Cole      10 Edward Sheringham
11 Ryan Joseph Giggs     12 Philip Neville         14 Johan Jordi Cruyff
15 Lars Jesper Blomqvist 16 Roy Keane           17 Raimond RJH Van der Gouw
18 Paul Scholes          19 Dwight Yorke           20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 Henning Berg          23 Michael Jamie Clegg    25 José Quinton Fortune
26 Massimo Taibi         31 Nicholas James Culkin  33 Mark Antony Wilson
34 Jonathan Greening

Real Audio - Last weeks Daily News Sound Archive:
Click on INDEX at http://www.red11.org/sound

Size Date Time  File Name Description     
	149k Sept 23   2.17 giggs_on_injury99.rm 
Ryan Giggs on latest injury situation - back in 2 weeks? 
	186k Sept 23   2.52 becks_seven_years_230999.rm 
David Beckham on Seven Great Years at OT! 
	129k Sept 23   1.58 phil_henning_sturm99.rm 
Phil Neville & Henning report after the Sturm CL game 
	136k Sept 23   2.05 van_der_sturm99.rm 
Raimond van der Gouw on his performance v Sturm 
	129k Sept 23   1.58 roy_on_sturm.rm 
Roy Keane on Sturm Result 
*** FIXTURES ON 25/09/99 ***

             Arsenal  v  Watford
       Coventry City  v  West Ham United
        Derby County  v  Bradford City
        Leeds United  v  Newcastle United
      Leicester City  v  Aston Villa
   Manchester United  v  Southampton
       Middlesbrough  v  Chelsea
          Sunderland  v  Sheffield Wednesday

*** FIXTURES ON 26/09/99 ***

           Wimbledon  v  Tottenham Hotspur


99/2000 fixtures/match reports are at

Mark Bosnich's Personal Details 



Previous News:
 BSKYB Takeover news/pics at http://www.red11.org/mufc/bskyb.htm
  Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
 Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!

** FULL LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 18/09/99 ***

Pos Team                  P  W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A   GD  Pts
 1  Manchester United     8  3  1  0  12   2   3  1  0   8   5   13   20
 2  Arsenal               8  3  0  1   8   4   2  1  1   3   3    4   16
 3  Aston Villa           8  3  1  0   7   2   2  0  2   3   4    4   16
 4  Sunderland            8  2  2  0   5   1   2  0  2   8   7    5   14
 5  Chelsea               6  3  0  0   6   0   1  1  1   3   3    6   13
 6  West Ham United       5  3  0  0   4   1   1  1  0   5   2    6   13
 7  Leeds United          7  1  1  1   3   3   3  0  1   9   6    3   13
 8  Middlesbrough         7  2  0  2   4   6   2  0  1   6   4    0   12
 9  Leicester City        8  2  2  0   6   4   1  0  3   5   6    1   11
10  Everton               7  2  1  0   9   2   1  0  3   4   7    4   10
11  Tottenham Hotspur     6  2  0  1   7   5   1  1  1   3   3    2   10
12  Liverpool             7  1  0  2   4   4   2  1  1   6   5    1   10
13  Southampton           7  2  0  2   6   6   1  0  2   4   7   -3    9
14  Watford               8  2  0  2   4   4   1  0  3   1   4   -3    9
15  Derby County          8  1  0  3   3  10   1  2  1   4   4   -7    8
16  Wimbledon             8  0  2  2   5   7   1  2  1   7  10   -5    7
17  Coventry City         7  1  0  3   6   7   0  2  1   2   3   -2    5
18  Bradford City         7  0  2  1   2   5   1  0  3   1   4   -6    5
19  Newcastle United      7  0  1  2   4   6   0  0  4   4  13  -11    1
20  Sheffield Wednesday   7  0  0  4   2   8   0  1  2   1   7  -12    1

TODAY       [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Sturm Graz  (UEFA Champions League, AWAY)
25-SEP-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Southampton (FA Premier League, HOME)
29-SEP-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Marseilles  (UEFA Champions League, HOME)

The line-up for the testimonial game is:
Eric Cantona		Peter Schmeichel
Zinedine Zidane		Gabriel Batistuta
Paul Gascoigne 		Juninho
George Weah		Alessandro Costacurta
Christian Ziege		Lillian Thuram
Roberto Mancini		John Collins


UNITED Stats v All teams:
ALL FIXTURES at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix992000.htm
First Team Fixtures 1999/2000
All dates/times subject to change
Dates of possible cup ties also shown

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/07/99    Melbourne Australia   pre-season  W  2-0     -    60,000
18/07/99    Sydney    Australia   pre-season  W  1-0     -    78,000
21/07/99    Shanghai  Shenhua     pre-season  W  2-0     -    80,000
24/07/99    Hong Kong South China pre-season  W  2-0     -    40,000

 1/08/99    Arsenal   Wembley Charity Shield  L  1-2     -    70,185
 3/08/99    Omagh Town Omagh Bomb Fund        W  9-0     -     7,000
 4/08/99    Wigan Athletic friendly           W  2-0     -    15,000 
08/08/99    Everton                  Away PL  D  1-1    10    39,141
11/08/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Home PL  W  4-0     3    54,941
14/08/99    Leeds United             Home PL  W  2-0     1    55,187
22/08/99    Arsenal                  Away PL  W  2-1     1    38,147
25/08/99    Coventry City            Away PL  W  2-1     1    22,024 
27/08/99    Monaco - Lazio               ESC  L  0-1     -    15,223
30/08/99    Newcastle United         Home     W  5-1     1    55,190
11/09/99    Liverpool                Away     W  3-2     1    44,929
14/09/99    Croatia Zagreb           Home EC  D  0-0     -    53,250
18/09/99    Wimbledon                Home     D  1-1     1    55,189
22/09/99    Sturm Graz               Away EC  W  3-0     -     ?

25/09/99    Southampton              Home PL   15.00
29/09/99    Marseille                Home EC   19.45
 3/10/99    Chelsea                  Away PL   16.00   "live on sky"

*11/10/99   Sir Alex Ferguson's testimonial OT [Schmeichel + Cantona]

13/10/99    ?     WC 3
16/10/99    Watford                  Home PL   15.00
19/10/99    Marseille                Away EC   19.45 
23/10/99    Tottenham Hotspur        Away PL   15.00
27/10/99    Croatia Zagreb           Away EC   19.45
30/10/99    Aston Villa              home PL   15.00
 2/11/99    Sturm Graz               Home EC   19.45 
 6/11/99    Leicester City           Home PL   15.00
20/11/99    Derby County             Away PL   15.00
24/11/99    ?     EC
27/11/99    Sheffield Wednesday      Away PL   15.00
30/11/99    Tokyo  Palmeiras         WCC       20.00
 1/12/99    ?     WC 4
 4/12/99    Everton                  Home PL   15.00
 8/12/99    ?     EC
11/12/99    FAC 3 Will not enter ...
15/12/99    ?     WC 5
18/12/99    West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
26/12/99    Bradford City            Home PL   15.00
28/12/99    Sunderland               Away PL   20.00  "live on sky"
 3/01/2000  Middlesborough           Home PL   20.00

 ***** 5-14 /01/2000 Brazil WTC  *****   [3-4 games]

*  8/01/2000  FAC 4 Will not enter ...
12/01/2000  ?    WC sf i
15/01/2000  Leeds United             Away PL   15.00
22/01/2000  Arsenal                  Home PL   15.00
26/01/2000  ?    WC sf ii
* 29/01/2000  FAC 5 Will not enter ...
 5/02/2000  Coventry City            Home PL   15.00
12/02/2000  Newcastle United         Away PL   15.00
* 19/02/2000  FAC 6 Will not enter ...
26/02/2000  Wimbledon                Away PL   15.00
27/02/2000  ?   Wembley WC f
 1/03/2000  ?   EC
 4/03/2000  Liverpool                Home PL   15.00
 8/03/2000  ?   EC
11/03/2000  Derby County             Home PL   15.00
15/03/2000  ?   EC
18/03/2000  Leicester City           Away PL   15.00
22/03/2000  ?   EC
25/03/2000  Bradford City            Away PL   15.00
 1/04/2000  West Ham United          Home PL   15.00
 5/04/2000  ?   EC qf i
 8/04/2000  Middlesborough           Away PL   15.00
*  9/04/2000  FAC sf Will not enter ...
15/04/2000  Sunderland               Home PL   15.00
19/04/2000  ?   EC qf ii
22/04/2000  Southampton              Away PL   15.00
24/04/2000  Chelsea                  Home PL   15.00
29/04/2000  West Ham United          Away PL   15.00
 3/05/2000  ?   EC sf i
 6/05/2000  Tottenham Hotspur        Home PL   15.00
10/05/2000  ?   EC sf ii
14/05/2000  Aston Villa              Away PL   15.00
* 20/05/2000 Wembley FAC f Will not enter ...
24/05/2000  ?    EC f



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Subject: Utd Reserves v Aston Villa Quick Fire TV Report from Gigg Lane Wet Wet Wet It never rains in Manchester! :)) Culkin Clegg Curtis Wallwork O'Shea Twiss Wellens Healy Greening Fortune Chadwick Bench: Notman Rachubka Roche Ford Nevland Villa side incl Steve Stone, Calderwood, Draper. More on reserves at http://www.red11.org/reserves Start Culkin playing well plenty to do catching the wet ball 19 Villa take the lead 0-1 28 tremendous run by Fortune, taken out penalty 1-1 Greening scores! 32 Rick Wellens goes through from Fortune shoots comes off player/post out again! Pelting it down Fortune not bothered, DOES IT rain in South Africa?? 35 Fortune again good centre cleared 36 Lescott free in the penalty area easy to beat Culkin from there 1-2 37 Twiss right footer too high 39 HEALY BRILLIANT SHOT ON THE VOLLEY goalkeeper makes mistake couldn't hold it 2-2 Half Time 2-2 sub Notman on for Fortune, could Fortune be ready for FULL debut on Saturday? Nevland on for Greening 45 Healy up front partnering Nevland 48 Mistake from Clegg, Culkin saves 52 Culkin does well clean catch from chip Even match now action both ends, rain stopped?? 60 Stone way off target shooting from far out for the umpteenth time 64 United pressure no finish in the middle 65 Notman shot saved well 66 Nevland center missed by Twiss, could have done better 72 Nevland again but takes wrong option 15 mins left still no penetration since Fortune went off, looks like a draw 75 Chadwick tries to thread Notman, just offside 78 Villa take lead for the 3rd time, Stone created & the £1 million pound Israeli Ghrayib scores to 2-3 80 Ten minutes to equalise ..... 81 Twiss shot deflected - corner 82 Wellens through but blocked, corner taken ends up as a throw in on the other side! wasted 83 Like Chadwick shot close 86 Nevland fouled Ghrayib booked 88 Villa still cleaning up at the back 90 last minute Wellens shot saved 91 Nevland weak ball into box, no luck today Final Score 2-3 - that's two losses for the reserves this season Best part of the game - the performance of Quinton Fortune Worst part? REDS gave the ball away far too often Question: Pete were the pies wet??! NEW URL - MUFC RESERVES & JUNIORS Reserves, Juniors, Trainees page - http://www.red11.org/reserves Shows Fixtures/Results/Scorers/Playing Staff updated weekly. Figures by Paul Hinson FIXTURES 1999-2000 FA PREMIER RESERVE LEAGUE 18 Aug 99 Sheffield Wednesday 3-1 W H Greening2 Twiss 07 Sep 99 Leeds United 1-2 L A Notman ? Sep 99 Liverpool 0-0 D A - Thu Sep 23 Aston Villa H Thu Sep 30 Sunderland H Wed Oct 13 Middlesbrough H Thu Oct 21 Bolton Wanderers A Tue Nov 9 Newcastle United A Sat Nov 13 Everton H Wed Nov 17 Blackburn Rovers H Thu Nov 25 Bradford City A Wed Dec 1 Barnsley H Mon Dec 6 Leeds United H Wed Dec 15 Aston Villa A Tue Dec 21 Sheffield Wednesday A Tue Jan 25 Everton A Wed Feb 2 Newcastle United H Tue Feb 15 Blackburn Rovers A Wed Feb 23 Bradford City H Wed Mar 8 Barnsley A Wed Mar 15 Liverpool H Mon Mar 27 Sunderland A Wed Apr 12 Bolton Wanderers H Wed Apr 26 Middlesbrough A All home games played at Gigg Lane, Bury Kick off time 7.00 except for Saturdays 2.00 Manchester United Reserves & Juniors Chadwick, Luke (F) 18 Nov 80 Cambridge 5ft 11in 10st 9lb Clegg, George (F) 16 Nov 80 Manchester 5ft 10in 11st 2lb Clegg, Michael (D) 03 Jul 77 Ashton-Under-Lyne 5ft8in 11st10lb Cosgrove, Stephen (M) 29 Dec 80 Glasgow 5ft 9in 10st 5lb Culkin, Nick (G) 06 Jul 78 York 6ft 2in 13st 5lb Curtis, John (D) 03 Sep 78 Nuneaton 5ft10in 11st7lb Djordic, Bojan (M) 06 Feb 82 Belgrade 5ft 10in 11st 1lb Evans, Wayne (M) 23 Oct 80 Carmarthen 5ft 9in 9st 12lb Fitzpatrick, Ian (F) 22 Sep 80 Manchester 5ft 9in 10st 0lb Ford, Ryan (M) 03 Sep 78 Worksop 5ft 9in 10st 4lb Fortune, Quinton (M) 21 May 77 Cape Town 5ft11in 11st11lb Greening, Jonathan (F)02 Jan 79 Scarborough 6ft 0in 11st 3lb Healy, David (F) 05 Aug 79 Downpatrick 5ft 8in 10st 9lb Higginbotham, Danny(D)29 Dec 78 Manchester 6ft 1in 12st 3lb Hilton, Kirk (D) 02 Apr 81 Flixton 5ft 6in 9st 12lb Howard, Joshua (M) 15 Nov 80 Ashton-Under-Lyne 5ft 8in 9st 10lb Marsh, Allan (G) 10 Sep 80 Wigan 6ft 0in 11st 0lb May, David (D) 24 Jun 70 Oldham 6ft 0in 13st 5lb McDermott, Alan (D) 22 Jan 82 Dublin 6ft 1in 11st 13lb Neville, Phil (D) 21 Jan 77 Bury 5ft 11in 11st 11lb Nevland, Erik (F) 10 Nov 77 Stavanger, Norway 5ft 10in 11st 12lb Notman, Alex (F) 10 Dec 79 Edinburgh 5ft 7in 10st 11lb O'Shea, John (D) 30 Apr 81 Waterford 6ft 3in 11st 12lb Rachubka, Paul (G) 21 May 81 San Luis Obispo, CA 6ft 1in 13st 5l Roche, Lee (D) 28 Oct 80 Bolton 5ft 10in 10st 11lb Rse, Stephen (D) 23 Nov 80 Salford 5ft 11in 10st 10lb Seringham, Teddy (F) 02 Apr 66 Highams Park 6ft 0in 13st 0lb Sewart, Michael (M) 26 Feb 81 Edinburgh 5ft 11in 11st 6lb Srange, Gareth (M) 03 Oct 81 Bolton 5ft 9in 10st 9lb
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Subject: Manchester Senior Cup News From: "Paul Hinson" FAMILIAR PHELAN Wednesday, September 22, 1999 11:59 United Reserves will continue the defence of the Manchester Senior Cup against derby rivals City next month. Mike Phelan's lads will be in action at Gigg Lane on Thursday 28 October, with the return leg at Maine Road on February 8. Both matches will kick off at 7pm. United beat Oldham Athletic in May to win the trophy for the first time in 35 years, and Michael Clegg followed in Denis Law's footsteps, lifting the cup as captain. It may be a harder task this season, with City seemingly a resurgent force. Their youth system has brought Shaun Wright-Philips, son of Ian Wright, and Leon Mike, brother of former City star Ade, to prominence. Former Blue Asa Harford is in charge of their second team. But United's youth teams also continue to produce superb players, with Luke Chadwick, John O'Shea and Lee Roche the likeliest to make headlines this season. The Manchester Senior Cup gave United their first trophy way back in 1886. 113 years later, the club have overtaken the competition in terms of international significance. But at Old Trafford, any trophy is important. Last season, the Reds won a certain trophy for the first time in over 30 years. Can the Reserves lead the way in defending theirs, before the first team defend the European Cup?
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Subject: Keane's fresh injury stunner Roy Keane is back in the treatment room after his Manchester United comeback lasted just 62 minutes. The Reds' skipper came off during last night's 3-0 Champions' League win over Sturm Graz in the Arnold Schwarzenegger Stadion after he suffered a recurrence of his knee injury. Frustratingly for Keane he had just returned after three weeks on the sidelines because of knee and hamstring trouble. Man United boss Sir Alex Ferguson claims he is doubtful for Saturday's Premiership home game against Southampton. Surgery The Irish midfielder is more upbeat about his chances and he said: "I think the manager took me off as a precaution. I'm still not probably 100 per cent with it. "I'll know more about what's wrong when I get back to Manchester but fingers crossed I will be back for Saturday." Keane's injury is a huge worry for Man United. He saw a specialist about the pain in his knee on Friday and he was told to carry on playing for now. Kicked He had a week off in a bid to cure the problem, which he sustained while on international duty, but if it persists he may require surgery. Keane put Man United on the road to their first three points of their Group D campaign when he opened the scoring with a rasping 30-yard drive after 16 minutes. Dwight Yorke added a second on 31 minutes before Andy Cole completed the scoring two minutes later. The Treble winners were somewhat flattered by the scoreline and Sturm went close on several occasions and skipper Ivica Vastic squandered a 54th-minute penalty. David Beckham almost spoiled the night when he kicked Tomislav Kocijan but escaped without as much as a yellow card. Man U's clash with Marseille has become even more important following the French side's 2-1 win at Ossie Ardiles' Croatia Zagreb. Defender Jaap Stam said: "Their team is full of very good quality players and we know it is not going to be easy against them." _________________ Friday, September 24, 1:42am London Time Troubled Keane's surgery worries By John Richardson Manchester United skipper Roy Keane is playing under the threat of surgery to sort out his troublesome knee. Keane's return after a four-game injury absence against Sturm Graz proved a bitter-sweet affair. He scored a wonderful goal but had to go off after 61 minutes with a recurrence of pain in the right knee. Unless the situation quickly resolves itself, Keane will need to undergo an exploratory operation to establish the cause of the pain. Although United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is optimistic, Keane said: 'It is a niggling injury and that kind never seem to go away. 'The danger is that it plays on your mind. You know where you are with a broken leg but with these things you are not so certain.'
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Subject: David Beckham 7 years since League Debut TODAY! Congratulations Started with trials with Leyton Orient + Tottenham School of Excellence David Beckham Signed as trainee 8th July 1991 Successful FA CUP Youth Team with Ryan Giggs Winners medal 1992 94/95 on loan to Preston helped his future David is very happy with the early training and names Eric Harrison for his encouragement 186k 2m 52s story at The Theatre Of Dreams now! http://www.red11.org/mufc/sound/99/becks_seven_years_230999.rm Other new interviews from Sturm Graz: http://www.red11.org/mufc/sound/99/ 129k Sept 23 1.58 phil_henning_sturm99.rm Phil Neville & Henning report after the Sturm CL game 136k Sept 23 2.05 van_der_sturm99.rm Raimond van der Gouw on his performance v Sturm 136k Sept 23 2.05 van_der_sturm99.rm Roy Keane on Sturm Result 129k Sept 23 1.58 roy_on_sturm.rm Roy Keane on Sturm Result
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Subject: Re: Ask the StatMan how many players played for MUFC & Liverpool =================================================== Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 Time: 3:29 AM EST Submitted by: Jonathan Seal Email address: jonathan@technology-products.co.uk Subject: Ask the StatMan visitor_country: UK visitor_age: 27 question: Apart from Paul Ince, how many players have played for Manchester United & Liverpool. I think there must be more than one player, but i can not think of any. =================================================== The following appeared for both clubs in League games: Tom Chorlton (Liverpool 1904-11 United 1913) Tom Miller (Liverpool 1911-20 United 1920) Jackie Sheldon (United 1910-12 Liverpool 1913-21) Fred Hopkin (United 1919-20 Liverpool 1921-31) Neil McBain (United 1921-22 Liverpool 1927-29) Tommy Reid (Liverpool 1925-28 United 1928-32) Tom McNulty (United 1949-53 Liverpool 1953-58) Phil Chisnall (United 1961-64 Liverpool 1964-66) Peter Beardsley (United 1982 Liverpool 1987-91) Paul Ince (United 1989-95 Liverpool 1997-99)
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Subject: Tetchy Beckham given the all clear - Guardian Ian Ross Friday September 24, 1999 As Sir Alex Ferguson ponders the next instalment of Manchester United's defence of the Champions Cup, he possibly feels some concern that David Beckham seems determined to carry into the European arena his fight to be recognised as English football's enfant terrible. If the 24-year-old midfielder requires evidence that he is letting himself down, he need only reflect on the contrasting events that opened and closed his evening's work in Austria on Wednesday. Some 90 minutes before United's game against Sturm Graz, Beckham climbed off the team bus to the sort of reception accorded his pop-star wife Victoria Adams. They screamed, they applauded, they reached out, some even wept. What is more they were all Austrian. Four hours later, his reputation besmirched, Beckham returned to the coach to the sound of jeers and catcalls: hero to villain with one flick of a gifted boot. It may be that he believes he has paid his dues for that sending-off in the World Cup and is free to do as he wishes. He was not playing particularly well against opponents who might struggle in the First Division so, seemingly unable to contain his frustration, he lashed out. It was not his first indiscretion of the season. Against Leeds at Old Trafford he was caught on camera waving two fingers at visiting fans, and at Liverpool he was lucky not to be dismissed for raking his studs down the shin of his England team-mate Jamie Redknapp. This time the victim was the journeyman Tomislav Kocijan; as he shaped to chase down a loose ball he was sent crashing to the ground by an unpleasant, almost violent kick. Beckham escaped censure at the time and indeed altogether, as the referee did not mention the incident in his match report. "I thought he was very arrogant during the game; I was angry with him for that," said the Sturm midfielder Roman Mählich, who was cautioned with Beckham after a late flare-up. "The referee should have sent him off for his kick at Tomislav because it was a bad foul; it was a red-card offence. He is such a good player, there is no need for that sort of stuff." "I didn't actually see the incident," a seemingly unconcerned Ferguson commented. The manager is hopeful that Roy Keane, forced off with the recurrence of a knee injury, will be fit to face Marseille next Wednesday. "I'm not 100% but I don't feel too bad," the captain said.
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Subject: INDEPENDENT - YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT WAS BRILLIANT BUT NEVER PERFECT PRESUMABLY, WE'LL never quite make it. In the pursuit of sporting perfection, there'll always be a factor which leaves room for improvement. Perhaps that's a good thing - after all, the thrill is in the chase; but, isn't it ever so slightly depressing that total satisfaction will be one step removed for eternity? These thoughts occurred in the aftermath of Manchester United's match in Graz the other night. Roy Keane, to my eyes, scored a truly outstanding goal. The ball having rebounded haphazardly from a defensive wall, he brought it under control, nimbly adjusted his body-shape, drew back his right foot and fired from about 25 yards. Matching Wasim Akram in his prime for reverse-swing, Keane's delivery clipped the bails and flattened the middle-stump, leaving the poor goalkeeper groping helplessly down the wrong line. In the context of the moment, wasn't Keane's goal "perfect"? Apparently not. Because the goalkeeper might have made a better stab at saving it, the excellence of the strike seems to be diluted. Never mind that he was simply flummoxed by the speed and swerve of the goal-bound missile. The implication here is that, in order to achieve sporting "perfection," one has to excel against opponents who, themselves, are also excelling. Anything less waters it down. Think of the sporting memories upon which this has an impact. When Ryan Giggs set off from Villa Park's halfway line in last season's FA Cup semi- final replay, he was embarking on a run which had us scurrying away to recall the top 10 goals of all time. After a thousand killjoys had had their say, Giggs' wizardry had been reduced to a regulation dribbling drill. Patrick Vieira had given him the ball too easily. What happened to Tony Adams' tackle? Couldn't David Seaman have cut down the angle? So many couldn't find it within themselves simply to admit that the whole thing was superb. That goal, of course, was compared with Diego Maradona's second against England at the 1986 World Cup. A candidate for perfect football surely? But, no. England's heart had been punctured by the hand-ball goal which preceded it... and anyone, some suggested with inaccurate and inelegant cruelty, could run away from Peter Reid. When Barry Davies told us: "You have to say that's magnificent," he was right. But, as ever, there were mitigating factors to deny it "perfect" status. Even when the two greatest exponents of their trade are in juxtaposition, they somehow seem to pull up short of the absolute. 7 June 1970, Guadalajara: Jairzinho digs out a cross from the England byline; Pele heads firmly downward; Gordon Banks plunges to produce "the greatest save of all time". Perfect goalkeeping? But why didn't Pele head back across goal into the other corner? Should Banks have cut out the cross? Naturally, all of this applies to other sports as well, even those in which perfection is apparently calculable. Stephen Hendry rattles in another 147... but only because his opponent left an opening and the reds were invitingly spread. Countless self-effacing golfers tell of the "lucky" bounce or the freak gust of wind which afforded them their hole-in-one. Shoaib Akthar can come up with the quickest inswinging yorker in the history of cricket, but it still needs the batsman to play all round it. Remember the Montreal Olympics and Nadia Comaneci? She was deemed perfect, wasn't she? But only by a row of imperfect human judges. The truth is that we're never totally satisfied because we never want to be. There's a nagging suspicion that, once we admit that someone has "cracked it", there'll be nothing left to play for. And so back to Manchester United, a club whose perfect moment seemed to have arrived in Barcelona in May. The setting was ideal; the opponents were of the highest class (and, more perfect still, German); there was not one extraneous condition that weighed in their favour. They won the European Cup in the most dramatic circumstances imaginable and completed an unprecedented treble. Yet, even as they galloped light-headedly round the pitch it began to dawn on our mealy-mouthed people that they weren't perfect at all. Because Bayern had led for most of the contest and had hit a couple of posts, United were lucky. Never mind that, long before the match, the rules had been established - the match would be 90 minutes (plus stoppage time) in duration and the goal would measure eight yards by eight feet. Roy Keane, of course, didn't play in the European Cup final. For that reason, his memory of it presumably falls short of perfect anyway. As he contributes fulsomely to another continental campaign, some advice: Before shooting, Roy, look up, check that the goalkeeper is world-class and ideally positioned to save and, only then, crack the ball unreachably past him. Then and only then, your effort may be considered... quite good. Peter Drury is an ITV sports commentator Manchester United - The Legend - http://manunited.net
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Subject: Independant: Sturm Graz 0 Manchester United 3 CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE: Inspirational captain returns after injury to guide the holders to victory over sorry Sturm MANCHESTER UNITED, holders in name if not character in their first Champions' League encounter, quickened last night to earn their first win of the 1999-2000 campaign. They were not at their best but they did not have to be, Graz were that poor. Sturm means storm in German but last night the Austrians were more a gentle zephyr barely ruffling the European champions' composure. Their captain, Ivica Vastic, missed a second-half penalty but the match had been won and lost by then anyway by virtue of goals from Roy Keane, Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole. United, had they really needed to, could have inflicted far more damage. Indeed, the only blot on the night for United was a booking for David Beckham, who antagonised the crowd by kicking out at Tomislav Kocijan and then received a yellow card after another altercation with Roman Mahlich. One day he will grow up. Sir Alex Ferguson did not see the first incident but felt the caution was unjustified. "The referee knew he had to book the Sturm Graz player and balanced it up by booking Beckham, too," he said. Frankly the United manager should be grateful he did not lose the player with a sending off. Sir Alex had set a target of 11 points to ensure qualification to the next phase and, after squandering two in their first match against the massed ranks of Croatia Zagreb eight nights previously, a defeat could not have been contemplated in the humid Arnold Schwarzenegger Stadion. Contemplated? Given the poverty of the opposition it was not conceivable. Graz had begun their Champions' League campaign by getting beaten 2-0 in Marseilles and that, Sir Alex estimated, would encourage the home team to attack. The last thing he wanted, he said, was another night of banging against defensive walls. "They need a win," the United manager had said. "It's their big chance." It was one they would fluff fairly spectacularly. United were without seven players through injury or ineligibility but, frankly, their Worthington Cup team could have dealt with the Austrians. And this was an outfit driven forward by the returning Keane, who gave his side the lead, but was forced off in the second half after he aggravated the knee injury that has kept him out for last three weeks. He is now doubtful for Saturday's match against Southampton. His inclusion, however, was a formality once he successfully completed Tuesday night's training session but Sir Alex did have to make one decision last night, preferring Raimond van der Gouw to Mark Bosnich. Not that United needed a command performance from their goalkeeper in a match that confirmed the suspicion that Graz are the makeweights in Group D. The Austrians' football was pleasant enough and their playmaker Vastic promised much, but their threat was negligible and their defending not much more substantial. United soon perceived the quality of the opposition and stirred themselves to do enough and little more. There was a lackadaisical air about their work with little of the power, drive and tempo of the best moments of last year's campaign, but then they did not need to dig deep to beat a side who showed only too well why they conceded 11 goals against Real Madrid in the Champions' League last year, particularly when Franco Foda kept conceding free-kicks in Beckham range. The first, after three minutes, arched delightfully round the defensive wall and curled just wide, but if the Austrians were fortunate then they would pay 13 minutes later. Beckham's second attempt had none of the grace of his first, but it thumped into the wall and the the ricochet fell to Keane, whose powerful right-foot volley crashed past the startled Kazimierz Sidorczuk off the bar. Once ahead, United could attack on the counter and as the Austrians stretched to get an equaliser they were pierced by two goals in three minutes. The first came after 30 minutes when Graz's marking was so poor Yorke was able to saunter to the near post to head in Beckham's right- wing corner. The Graz goalkeeper's dive was almost as inept as his defenders' attention and the ball crept under his attempt to save. Yorke turned creator soon afterwards with a sparkling piece of skill. He span off his marker on the halfway line and then flicked a pass to his right which Cole chested down and then imperiously beat Sidorczuk with a shot into the corner. Three up at half-time, United could only fall foul of their own complacency and they gave that full rein with a sloppy start after the interval. Within four minutes of the restart the visiting defence disappeared as Gilbert Prilasnig's pass set Vastic free in the area. The Austrian striker's shot was poor, however, going wide of Van der Gouw's left-hand post. If that striking was lamentable, it got worse for Vastic after 53 minutes. Phil Neville brought down Kocijan in the area and although Vastic looked the epitome of aplomb as he trotted to take the penalty and dummied as he was about to shoot, his kick trickled straight to the United goalkeeper. That acted as a wake-up call and United finished the match comfortably superior. They will wish all their Champions' League matches were as comfortable as this. Sturm Graz (3-5-2): Sidorczuk; Feldhofer (Korsos,70), Foda, Neukirchner; Martens, Mahlich (Reinmayr, 74), Vastic, Schupp, Prilasnig (Kutsupias, 70); Kocijan, Strafner. Substitutes not used: Schicklgruber (gk), Bochtler, Szabics, Pantelic. Manchester United (4-4-2): Van der Gouw; Irwin, Berg, Stam, P Neville; Beckham, Keane (Wilson, 60), Scholes, Cruyff (Sheringham, 66); Yorke, Cole (Solskjaer, 75). Substitutes not used: Bosnich (gk), Clegg, Fortune, Greening. Referee: A Trentalange (It).
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