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Date: Fri Jan 01 16:02:13 GMT+00:00 1999
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This Issue:
1. THE DEVIL MAY CARE   The RED-DevilsnullAdvocate    Published: 30th Dec 98
2. A Chelsea report, of sorts...
3. Bill McArthur at Heathrow this Saturday 2nd January lunch time 11-1230
4. Prem Table 1st Jan 1999 Manchester United Stats update


Daily RED Trivia  Fri 1st January 1999:

1/1/1907: Sandy Turnbull scored on his debut against Aston Villa. Signed from
 Manchester City, Turnbull gained immortality when he scored the winning goal against              
 Bristol City in the 1909 FA Cup Final. He also won League Championship medals in 
 1908 and 1911. An explosive forward, he scored 100 goals in 245 appearances between
 1907-14 before being killed in action during the First World War.

1977: 2 goals by Stuart Pearson see United home 2-0 against Aston Villa in a 
Division 1 game at Old Trafford watched by 55,446. Team was: Stepney, Nicholl,
Houston,McIlroy, B.Greenhoff,Buchan,Coppell,J.Greenhoff,Pearson(McCreery),Macari,Hill. 


Barry Daily Comment:

A new year 1999!
Happy RED Year from Barry and Bill at Simplenet!

Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio

Next games: 
ALL Result/Fixture Index:

     3/1  Middlesboro   (H) FA CUP 3rd rnd 16.00 UK
    10/1 West Ham       (H) Sky Sports? time 16.00 UK
    16/1 Leicester      (A)  15.00
    31/1 Charlton       (A) Sky Sports? time 15.00 UK

UNITED Stats v All teams:


Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251
17/10/98    Wimbledon                Home     W  5-1     2    55,265
24/10/98    Derby County             Away     D  1-1     2    30,867
31/10/98    Everton                  Away     W  4-1     2    40,079
08/11/98    Newcastle United         Home     D  0-0     3    55,174
14/11/98    Blackburn Rovers         Home     W  3-2     2    55,198
21/11/98    Sheffield Wednesday      Away     L  1-3     2    39,475
29/11/98    Leeds                    Home     W  3-2     2    55,172
05/12/98    Aston Villa              Away     D  1-1     2    39,241
12/12/98    Tottenham Hotspur        Away     D  2-2     1    36,079
16/12/98    Chelsea                  Home     D  1-1     2    55,159
19/12/98    Middlebrough             Home     L  2-3     3    55,152
26/12/98    Notts Forest             Home     W  3-0     3    55,216 
29/12/98    Chelsea                  Away     D  0-0     3    34,741

Champions League:
Group D         P  W  D  L  F  A   Pts
Bayern Munich   6  3  2  1  9  6  11   
Man United      6  2  4  0 20 11  10
Barcelona       6  2  2  2 11  9   8    
Brondby         6  1  0  5  4 18   3   

Dec  9 Brøndby         0-2  Barcelona
Dec  9 Man Utd         1-1  Bayern Munich


 Manchester Utd    v   Inter Milan
 Real Madrid       v   Dynamo Kiev
 Juventus          v   Olympiakos
 Bayern Munich     v   Kaiserslautern

 Ties to be played on March 3 and 17


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Subject: THE DEVIL MAY CARE The RED-Devils_Advocate Published: 30th Dec 98 The RED-Devils_Advocate Published: 30th Dec 98 As it looks as though he Red Devils Advocate has taken an extended sabbatical and it seems to have fallen to me to take up the strain and attempt to fill his well-heeled shoes. So, as the new year approaches, what do we have to look forward to? A rather uncertain future it seems - but that's football for you! Why not start the ball rolling with a good old cliche! I hope Fartin got a new calculator in his Christmas stocking and then at least we should be able to keep Fergie and Roy happy by offering them new contracts more befitting of their status. Fergie especially must feel that Fartin's taking the piss by only paying him £800,000 - not that I'd turn my nose up at that sort of sum, but then I don't manage an institution. Let's face it, if the one man who has done more to change the fortunes of our club in the last decade doesn't get as well rewarded as the top earner, he's surely got to be considering pastures new. I don't think it will come to that however, but you never know. Maybe Fartin's keeping him on a low wage cos he knows that Fergie would buy him out and run the club himself if he had enough money - there's no love lost between the two that's for sure - not surprising really. We've already lost Fergie's side-kick and you're not kidding me that he wouldn't have stayed had he been given certain assurances and a decent wage. On the one hand it pains me to see him so engrossed in the yonners but on the other I'm pleased for him that he is doing what he so desperately wanted to do, namely take control of the decision making. Brian Kidd is a good man and we'll miss him. So, who will replace him? The short answer is no-one can replace him, but as that is a negative, I think we have to look to someone who has known the lads who are in the first team and those who are coming through. Someone who will command respect. Steve Bruce is an obvious choice. But has he got the coaching credentials? Choccy would have been the one for me, but then he was allowed to leave in the summer when he should have been offered a role within the club. How anyone in their right mind could let someone as intelligent as McClair go is completely beyond me. The official magazine must have been severely miffed as Choccy's diary was the only decent thing in it. I don't know if Bruce has the qualifications for the job or not but he sure has the respect of the lads and he was the only one who ever stood up to the daft Dane, so he obviously has the courage as well. In an ideal world I'd love to see a double appointment if we can't turn the clock back and reinstate Kiddo, and that's Bruce and Cantona. Pie in the sky maybe, but doesn't it make your mouth water just thinking about it and wouldn't the t-shirt sellers be happy to have their main money maker back at the club. Bruce and Cantona - BC. I don't suppose it will ever happen but hold onto the dream for a few seconds and make yourselves smile. Eric wouldn't leave his cosy thespian world now would he, unless we can get to his son Raphael who still pines for Old Trafford - someone send him a new United shirt quick. Coming back to the poorly paid and continuity theme - you don't catch a sort of trend here do you? A sort of mis-management trend? That someone at the top doesn't seem to value continuity? Maybe that someone has a problem with intelligence. Maybe that someone doesn't possess much themselves - it would certainly seem to be the case from where I'm sitting. I wonder who that could be? Maybe it's the PLC pulling the strings or maybe not, but if someone doesn't do something about it soon the Ferguson dynasty will end just as Sir Matt's did - rather too abruptly without much planning for the future succession. After the Middlesborough debacle I don't suppose Jimmy Ryan will be offered the second in command post! He's been watching too many Peter Pan re-runs and is still under the spell of that tinker Tinkerbell. Fancy messing around with the team just as they were getting on top, I wonder where he picked that bad habit up from? Talking of daft Danes, which we were a few sentences ago, it's a pity that Peter couldn't have kept his little secret hideaway in the south of France to himself and Fergie because it seems to have upset a few people. What other excuse for the poor defensive displays could there be! How would you feel if you were playing in front of someone who you know is going to piss off at the end of the season to wile away the next few years in a warm climate and a cosy villa somewhere on the Cote D'Azure? You wouldn't like it would you? Come on, be truthful now - while it's freezing bloody cold and the rain is lashing in your face and this great Danish pastry is spitting currants at you while you're thinking about the warmth of the Mediterranean sun he's going to be enjoying. You'd probably hate him wouldn't you? If the truth be known, I think he's just got a little too fed up with all the red nose jibes and is going off in a huff to make sure he doesn't expose himself to the rigours of northern winters anymore. You watch, he'll be back one day playing for Monaco, all suntanned and chucking himself around the goalmouth like there's no tomorrow. Charging upfield for an injury time corner to score the winner which knocks us out of the Euro semi for yet another year - the bastard!! To be serious for a minute, I think the sooner we get behind him and throw toilet rolls - sorry, I mean get behind him and give him some real support, the sooner he will get himself properly back together and hopefully have one last magnificent season for the Reds. Can you imagine a United team reaching the Euro Final in the Nou Camp without Schmeichel as our custodian on the last day of the season? Nor me. Anyway, after the Chelsea game he will have surely silenced his critics. He's still the business for me and always will be - yet another of that 94 team who will be irreplaceable. As far as the defence in front of the big daft sod is concerned, I'll be glad to see Ronnie permanently installed as partner to Stam. I thought the Stam-Neville partnership was going to work at first, but Nev seems to lack concentration at vital times which he may be able to get away with at right back but not in the heart of the defence. Pity he's not left footed as he could then play at left back where Dennis is showing the odd sign of 'career end' and then Wes could come in at right back. Dennis is another who has served the club magnificently and his experience will also be sorely missed. He's been the best and most consistent full back I've seen at Old Trafford in 40 years of watching. Wes shows the most promise of all for me. He's so assured even now, he learns very quickly and never gets ruffled. What a player he is going to be - another Paul McGrath. Let's hope he stays off the booze and his knees don't give way, or did McGrath's knees give way because of the booze? I saw him in the players lounge once and strangely enough he was the only one who was sitting down. At least we've finished the year with two clean sheets which is more than can be said for Giggsy. Come on Ryan, concentrate more on the football mate and less on you know who. Let's face it though, the football hasn't been brilliant the last few games. The effort just hasn't been there - no wonder the crowd have found it difficult to get behind the lads - they have to try first and should not be content with playing for only twenty minutes a half. It's frustrating when we know how well they can play when they make an effort. The team have the potential to be one of the very best to come out of Old Trafford, but they seem far too complacent to me. So what are the Big Issues for 1999? Stop selling magazines on street corners to help the homeless and start selling United shares instead, to stop the dirty digger getting his 75% and make sure we've still got a home in the year 2000. Get rid of that puppet Fartin, buy back the club from the plc and let Fergie take us into the new millennium. And that's just for starters! Some of my wishes for 1999 - let's hope it's a happy new year for the Reds. DMC Just a quick note to thank all of those who have written to the Devils Advocate, either through email or through the Guestbook here. Getting feedback makes the writing all the easier, and more pleasurable. So take a few minutes to drop me a line. Your thoughts are always welcome. ***************************************************************** Comments/Email to: The RED-Devils_Advocate reditorial@yahoo.com Guest Book: Sign http://jupiter.guestworld.tripod.lycos.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=reditorial View http://jupiter.guestworld.tripod.lycos.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=reditorial NEW YEAR Regards from Devils Advocate, Barry and Bill! http://www.red11.org/mufc/devilsadvocate/ *****************************************
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From: Kerry Davies Subject: A Chelsea report, of sorts... In a weak moment yesterday, I seem to remember promising a match report on yesterday's game, so, not wanting to let anyone down (yeah, right!) here goes… The good thing about these London games is that I get the chance to have a lie in, and ponder my 30 minute travelling arrangements, while everyone else has to travel down from various parts of the country - the benefits of being a cockney part time glory hunter I guess!!! Anyway, arrangements had been made to meet up with a number of people in Henry J Bean's along the Kings Road (only the best places for us!) sometime around 3 or 4pm. So, having completed my arduous journey over land and sea, trekking through the foothills of Victoria Station, I found myself at Henry J Bean's just after 3pm. I was soon joined by Richard Martin who had been taking advantage of the Xmas sales earlier on in the day and we began the session. After a tremendous drink in the same place after last seasons game that involved some ridiculous short drinking competitions and quite outrageously drunken people, I was somewhat disappointed by the place this year. It was fairly empty, more pricey than I could remember (but then I couldn't remember all that much from before!) and to top it all off, the fantastic food they do in there was scuppered by a knackered grill! Nonetheless, we made the best of it and proceeded to plough our way through a number of beers. We were joined by two of Rich's mates Sean & Micky for a while, then a few more of my lot started to appear. One in particular, Naj, who observes Ramadan and doesn't eat or drink before 4pm for 30 days turned up at 4 on the dot, looking particularly ravenous and very much looking forward to sampling the fine food that we had enjoyed last year. I couldn't help but smiling as I told him the bad news (I'm a cruel bastard me!). After a few beers I was especially hungry and despite the lack of choice on offer, I managed to order a portion of chips with relative ease. Rich followed suit a few minutes later, ordering some potato skins, and was given ticket number 666 to collect his order - the devils food indeed. I suggested that it might be worth putting a bet on our number 13 scoring the first goal before I realised it was Rai and the chances of it happening were slightly less than plausible. Still, I'm sure we'd have all felt a bit sore (and worried) if it had happened! By now we had heard the news that all the Welsh & Blackpool lot were drinking in the Scruffy Murphy's near the ground, so we headed outside in search of a cab. After some of the effort required to find one in some European cities, it was a relief to find one straight away, so we hopped in and were whisked away. We arrived at the pub just as another few lads we had arranged to meet there, and went in to find it heaving, but full of Reds with most of the regular faces making an appearance at one time or another. The penis who does Soccer AM on Sky was in there, and didn't get nearly as much abuse as he deserved, neither did the Chelsea morons intent on singing about runways. It looked as if it might go off at one stage when a pint glass was seen flying through the air, but peace was restored soon enough. At one stage some police came into the pub looking for the two lads that had jibbed a £1.60 cab fair! Worthwhile use of police resources that one - 'excuse me, did any of you just run away from a taxi without paying your fare' 'oh, yes officer, it was me, it's a fair cop!'. It was soon 7.15, and I had to meet a certain Mr Meade to collect my tickets, and after walking straight past the United end to the West entrance (where we were for the Cup last year) I called Mick demanding to know where he was. He politely informed me that he was waiting outside the United end where we had arranged to meet, and told me that I was a bit of a plonker (or words to that effect)!!! Still, I finally made it, collected my tickets without any bother, and headed inside. I think I must have bumped in to everyone I have ever known at United, so spent most of my time saying hello to people. The game, well, it was pretty crap really. Chelsea dominated us for the first half, and could (and really should) have been at least a goal or two up by the break, but half time came with the scores still level and gave Fergie the chance to throw some teacups or whatever he does. I bumped into Dr Mark and Alan (you could hardly miss him in his new white coat!) and had a chat with them briefly. As Sausage Man and I were walking along the concourse, a foul smell seemed to appear, and despite Alan's protestations, I have my doubts as to whether he was entirely innocent on that one!!! (Sorry Alan, you know I had to say it!). The talk of half time was mostly about Milan, and it appears that most people have got themselves sorted one way or another, so it looks like being a good trip. On to the second half, and there was an improvement. Quite how Frank Leboeuf managed to stay on the pitch is beyond me - twice in our games against Chelsea they should have been down to 10 men, and twice the ref bottled it. Disgraceful if you ask me. Am I just being paranoid in thinking that a certain Mr Keane would not have received such a let off had he been on a yellow and hauled down Zola in the way Leboeuf did Beckham? I think not, but anyway, despite some decent pressure in the last 20 or 30 minutes, we never really created a telling chance and were probably quite lucky to get away with the draw in the end. And so the 'game of the season' / 'championship decider' / 'game that could shape both teams seasons' or whatever other ridiculous hype the media came up with was over, and it is still pretty much as you were at the top. Just before the end of the game, about 8 stewards came over near where I was standing and started pointing at someone in the crowd that turned out to be our very own Sausage Man. Apparently he had been abusing the Rent Boy fans, and they were going to throw him out. This was with about 2 minutes left on the clock. After telling them to grow up, and get off their little power trips, they disappeared, and I thought I had earned the Lederhosened One a reprieve. But no, 30 seconds later 15 of them turned up to escort him out! No offence to Alan, but I think my gran could escort Alan out as he is hardly the most vicious of people. Anyway, he must have reached the top step of the section when the ref blew for full time - I bet Alan was gutted he missed those last 8 seconds!!! Anyway, it was now time to get back to the drinking (while laughing at a few mates that had the long trek back to Manchester and getting all manner of abuse in return!). We went into the Fulham Tup just along the Fulham Road and I have to say the ratio of stunning girls in there was as high as I have seen in a long time, so needless to say none of our lot got anywhere! The night then degenerated into a rather heavy session, taking in Shoeless Joe's (Victor Ebogu's bar on the Kings Road) and then finally onto the Rock Garden in Covent Garden, where 3 of us managed to get in for free on the most ridiculous jib ever! One of our lot had this tacky silver card that said Covent Garden Privilege Card written on it, and he managed to blag the manager into letting him and two other VIP's in for free!!! Tremendous. More drinking, some terrible dancing, and even less success on the female front and it was soon 3am. A quick sprint up to Trafalgar Square and I made my night bus home. Before slipping into a coma, I managed to ask the whole bus if anyone would be so kind as to wake me up when we get to Bromley (no shame me!). And that was it, I finally made it to bed around 4am, which is most probably after all my mates got back to Manchester anyway! Cheers Kerry Copyright and all that.
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Subject: Bill McArthur at Heathrow this Saturday 2nd January lunch time 11-1230 **** NOTICE: Webmaster Bill McArthur, Toronto, Canada Bill invites for a new year drink at Heathrow London Terminal 3 "arrivals" There is a bar at the back of the Arrivals Terminal where he will be for 1½ hours this Sat at 11am - 12.30 [There are a couple of steps up to that bar ..... meet at the 1st table above those steps] So anyone around Heathrow/London area that can make it that would be great! Bill is actually available today/tomorrow at 01265 834966 (if you know that you can make it) Or just email me here and I will phome Bill. If you read this too late just turn up bill will be there. Here is wearing the same RED jacket pic here: http://www.red11.org/mufc/listpics/listpicu.htm#McArthurBill Bill flies in from Ireland at 10.20 and flies out to Toronto at 1300 hrs after a 3 week pilgrimage til UK including White Hart Lane + OT/Chelsea game. Hope someone can make it for a RED New Year meet. Cheers Barry.
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Subject: Prem Table 1st Jan 1999 Manchester United Stats update *** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 29/12/98 *** Chelsea 0-0 Manchester United 34,741 Leeds United 2-2 Wimbledon 39,816 *** LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 1/1/99 *** Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts --------------------------------------------------------- 1 Aston Villa 20 11 6 3 31 20 11 39 2 Chelsea 20 9 10 1 31 17 14 37 3 Manchester United 20 9 8 3 39 23 16 35 4 Arsenal 20 9 8 3 22 11 11 35 5 Leeds United 20 8 9 3 34 19 15 33 6 West Ham United 20 9 5 6 24 23 1 32 7 Liverpool 20 9 4 7 36 25 11 31 8 Middlesbrough 20 7 9 4 32 26 6 30 9 Wimbledon 20 8 6 6 27 32 -5 30 10 Derby County 20 6 10 4 20 18 2 28 11 Leicester City 20 7 7 6 23 21 2 28 12 Tottenham Hotspur 20 7 6 7 28 30 -2 27 13 Newcastle United 20 6 6 8 24 28 -4 24 14 Everton 20 5 8 7 13 21 -8 23 15 Sheffield Wednesday 20 6 4 10 21 22 -1 22 16 Blackburn Rovers 20 4 6 10 20 28 -8 18 17 Coventry City 20 4 5 11 16 29 -13 17 18 Charlton Athletic 20 3 7 10 23 31 -8 16 19 Southampton 20 3 5 12 16 38 -22 14 20 Nottingham Forest 20 2 7 11 18 36 -18 13 *** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 29/12/98 *** Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend. -------------------------------------------------------------------- 15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052 22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039 09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147 12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193 20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142 24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181 03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251 17/10/98 Wimbledon Home W 5-1 2 55,265 24/10/98 Derby County Away D 1-1 2 30,867 31/10/98 Everton Away W 4-1 2 40,079 08/11/98 Newcastle United Home D 0-0 3 55,174 14/11/98 Blackburn Rovers Home W 3-2 2 55,198 21/11/98 Sheffield Wednesday Away L 1-3 2 39,475 29/11/98 Leeds United Home W 3-2 2 55,172 05/12/98 Aston Villa Away D 1-1 2 39,241 12/12/98 Tottenham Hotspur Away D 2-2 1 36,079 16/12/98 Chelsea Home D 1-1 2 55,159 19/12/98 Middlesbrough Home L 2-3 3 55,152 26/12/98 Nottingham Forest Home W 3-0 3 55,216 29/12/98 Chelsea Away D 0-0 3 34,741 *** TEAM RESULTS SUMMARY - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 29/12/98 *** P Won Drawn Lost For Against Points ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Home 11 7 (64%) 3 (27%) 1 (9%) 27 (2.5) 12 (1.1) 24 (2.2) Away 9 2 (22%) 5 (56%) 2 (22%) 12 (1.3) 11 (1.2) 11 (1.2) Total 20 9 (45%) 8 (40%) 3 (15%) 39 (2.0) 23 (1.1) 35 (1.8) Averages per game in (brackets) League position: 3rd Form position: 15th (Index: 72%) Predicted position: 10th (The higher the form index, the higher the average league position of the recent opposition) Highest league position: 1st Lowest league position: 10th (Excluding the first 4 matches) *** TEAM STATISTICS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 29/12/98 *** AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 55,174 HIGHEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 17/10/98 - Wimbledon (55,265) LOWEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 15/08/98 - Leicester City (55,052) BEST WIN: 17/10/98 - Wimbledon (5-1) HEAVIEST DEFEAT: 20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3) BEST HOME WIN: 17/10/98 - Wimbledon (5-1) HEAVIEST HOME DEFEAT: 19/12/98 - Middlesbrough (2-3) BEST AWAY WIN: 03/10/98 - Southampton (3-0) 31/10/98 - Everton (4-1) HEAVIEST AWAY DEFEAT: 20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3) Theatre Of Dreams: http://www.red11.org E-mail: barrylee@post3.tele.dk Daily News: http://www.red11.org/mufc/news/digest.htm to subscribe: MufcDailyNews-subscribe@ONElist.com CP Mail-List Archive: http://www.red11.org/mufc/news/digest "RED sky at night UNITED delight" Happy "RED" Year from Barry Leeming bORN aND bRED in Oldham living in Denmark As RED as you get!
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Thursday 31 December 1998 Subject: UDINESE JOIN THE CHASE FOR SCHMEICHEL ITALIAN club Udinese have confirmed their interest in signing Manchester United goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel. The 35-year-old Danish international has announced his intention to quit the Premiership at the end of the season and his agent has revealed that he has attracted interest from all over Europe. Schmeichel had originally been linked with a return to his native Denmark but hinted yesterday that another country may yet tempt him, with Italy's Serie A sure to prove attractive to the giant keeper. A spokesman for Udinese, Zigfried Marcati, confirmed: "It is true that we have looked into Peter Schmeichel's possible future plans. He is a high-profile goalkeeper who has our interest. Normally we go for young players and if they are successful they usually move on to one of the bigger Italian clubs. But that is no reason why our policy should not change from time to time. We need big-name players as well in order to compete," he told The Express.
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